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Old 03-16-2014, 10:54 PM   #1
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Winch for XHD front bumper?

So I am ready to purchase a Warn Zeon 10-s for the front of my Jeep and I tried google images to see what it would look like mounted on my Rugged Ridge XHD bumper. It turns out that there are very few people who have this setup because the Warn Zeon does not fit without a good bit of cutting. I found this thread where a guy was able to make it work...

Rugged Ridge XHD bumper an ZEON winch

I'm just not sure I want to cut my front bumper. Is anyone else running this setup that may could give me some insight?

I'm not trying to start a thread about WARN vs Everything else (so please refrain from that) but, If not the Warn Zeon, what winch(es) have you guys been able to make work in this bumper.

Here is my front bumper.
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I know a bunch of people on this forum have this bumper. If anyone has it and is running a winch, please chime in as to what winch you have installed.

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Old 03-17-2014, 08:35 AM   #3
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I was in the same boat as you last year. I didn't want to cut mine either. I have a superwinch talon 9.5 on mine.
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I was in the same boat as you last year. I didn't want to cut mine either. I have a superwinch talon 9.5 on mine.
Yeah I like the look of the talon. Was it a straight forward install? No fitting issues?
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Smittybilt XRC8 barely fit in mine. So I couldn't imagine trying to install a larger winch.
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Yeah I like the look of the talon. Was it a straight forward install? No fitting issues?
Yes, very straight forward. No fitment issues. Had it bolted on in less than 30 minutes.
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Smittybilt XRC8 barely fit in mine. So I couldn't imagine trying to install a larger winch.
This was another that I was considering. Can you get your front grill off without un-installing the winch?
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This was another that I was considering. Can you get your front grill off without un-installing the winch?
The Smitty's been an ok winch. Not sure if I'd buy another one. If you take the solenoid controller box off you can get the grill off w/o unbolting the entire winch. it's still tight to clear the bottom grill clips, but not impossible.
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I have the Q9500is from quadratec. It fits without cutting but it's a tight squeeze. If I had to do it over again I would npt buy this winch. The synthetic line had a major pull out of the box, the safety clasp in the hook breaks all the time and I've already had to change a blown solenoid.
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I run an Engo, but relocated the control box under the hood. The wires coming out of the controller were pressed pretty tight into the grill. It probably would have been fine, I just didn't like it that way.
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Reading all of this is making me want to sell this bumper.
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I run a warn m8000 on the front of mine with no issues, there are some pics in my profile if you want to check them out
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I run a warn m8000 on the front of mine with no issues, there are some pics in my profile if you want to check them out
I'll give it a look when I get to a computer. On the phone app now.
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I have a RR winch on mine so I am of no help because they were kind of made for each other. It still is a snug fit but the price was good. I know all about the buy a Warn or Superwinch so we wont go there. So far I have not had to use it. I still love the bumper. Many options and it is built pretty well. No fitment issues.
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I'll give it a look when I get to a computer. On the phone app now.
Here, I took some pics of some pics lol

and they look like poop, apologies
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Reading all of this is making me want to sell this bumper.
It's a great bumper. I've been pleased with its toughness. The finish is also pretty resilient to taking a hit.
Probably one of the few Rugged Ridge products I've been pleased with.
So don't give up.
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Love my $200 RR bumper. 2 winters and still no rust. Can't say this for other parts.
It's held up well. Need a winch though
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Old 03-18-2014, 06:53 AM   #19
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Love my $200 RR bumper. 2 winters and still no rust. Can't say this for other parts.
It's held up well. Need a winch though
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It's a great bumper. I've been pleased with its toughness. The finish is also pretty resilient to taking a hit.
Probably one of the few Rugged Ridge products I've been pleased with.
So don't give up.
Yep me too. I was one of the lucky ones who got this bumper off of the Amazon "mistake". I love the bumper...it's beefy, no rust, and looks great. It just doesn't make any sense why a popular bumper like this isn't compatible with some of the most popular winch brands.

I have a lot of Rugged Ridge stuff but I don't want a RR winch.
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Anyone know if the Warn m8000 (synthetic) winch would have any problems fitting in the XHD bumper? I have heard that this winch is a workhorse winch even at 8,000 lbs. I know having a 4dr rubi I probably need a 10,000 lb winch but will this winch be sufficient?

I really want the Zeon 10s but....right now this is my next choice.
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you won't have any problems fitting an m8000-s in there.

in terms of "will it be sufficient" depends on a few other factors, like how much steel plating you've put on your jeep and whether or not you feel like you need to be able to pull your jeep up a tree (<-just a hyperbole), but grab a snatch block and you should be fine.

1.5x-2x vehicle gross weight is the general rule - I think the unlimiteds come in somewhere around 4700 gross, so an m8000 would put you in that safe zone.
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you won't have any problems fitting an m8000-s in there.

in terms of "will it be sufficient" depends on a few other factors, like how much steel plating you've put on your jeep and whether or not you feel like you need to be able to pull your jeep up a tree (<-just a hyperbole), but grab a snatch block and you should be fine.

1.5x-2x vehicle gross weight is the general rule - I think the unlimiteds come in somewhere around 4700 gross, so an m8000 would put you in that safe zone.
Thanks for the info. I have also been looking at the Warn 9.5cti synthetic but it's $1500. That's pretty steep for a winch that will be used occasionally.
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Thanks for the info. I have also been looking at the Warn 9.5cti synthetic but it's $1500. That's pretty steep for a winch that will be used occasionally.
those are nice.

might also want to look at the XD9000i. it's closer to the price of the zeon 10, and, if you'll let me say, just stick with the steel cable until it's time to replace THEN get the synthetic. that'll save you several hundred bucks right there.

also, check craigslist, you can find used warn winches for cheap(er) and then you can rebuild them to their former glory. just depends on how much work you want to do vs how much you want to spend. you can buy a new 8274 for $1800, or find a beat up one on CL and rebuild it for a fraction of the cost. (but the 8274 might be a bad example; it's not compatible with the XHD bumper lol)
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I'm buying synthetic to save weight and because it's safer. Also if it breaks, you can just tie a knot in it and keep going.
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A Superwinch 9 EPI fits tight
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I decided to go with the Warn 9.5cti-synthetic. This is a picture I found on google installed on my bumper. Looks good and has great ratings.
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Just FYI to anyone who has this bumper... Installing a Warn winch is a PITA. To get to the bolts I had to take the bumper off. No big deal, I expected this. Only problem was getting the bumper back on after the winch was installed. Getting to some of the nuts/bolts were near impossible after the winch is installed. If you look at the picture above where the winch is installed on the XHD bumper, the winch and fairlead line up perfectly. To make this happen you have to use the mounting holes on the left (there are two mounting options). Only problem is this makes it to where you cannot get to 2 of the bolts on the passenger side.

From underneath the Jeep you cannot fit a deep well 3/4 socket into the space while it is attached to the ratchet. You also cannot fit a 3/4 wrench. I purchased a 3/4 swivel socket but I still couldn't get it to reach at an angle to where I could hold the ratchet. SO...... I ended up purchasing a 3/4 crows foot and a 3/8 swivel joint (1/2 was too big). I then used a 8" 3/8 extension to the swivel joint, attached to the crows foot. Like I said...PITA.

I guess I could have avoided this if I moved the winch over to other optional mounting holes. My OCD would not let me make it off center from the fairlead.

Here is a picture of the device I used to reach the bolts. I'm sure some of you more experienced mechanics could tell me a better way to do it but it is done finally. Now to wire it up to the battery later tonight and spool the rope.
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got it installed!
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Well, your OCD should also know that the entire winch/fairlead is off center anyways! I figured that out after mounting my license plate underneath my fair lead.



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Well, your OCD should also know that the entire winch/fairlead is off center anyways! I figured that out after mounting my license plate underneath my fair lead.



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It has always driven me a little nuts.

But yes, RR made theirs that way because most winches (especially the RR brand) are larger on the left side than the right side. But that doesn't work well with the new style Warn's like the Zeon. The RR bumper is the only bumper I know of off hand that is not symmetrical. I noticed it from the get go but I got the bumper at a great deal on an Amazon mess up so... I can live with it.

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