yes they say nothing beats a warn especialy their price if this is something you may only use now and then there are a few as good and a lot cheeper I know I looked at all of them and I went with smittybilt rxc8 procomp with synn rope for $450 shipped its a great winch I have used it several times since purchase and its great its done all it should do and more very impressed with it as far as xtra batt not neeeded would not hurt but remember use winch leave jeep running if possible they eat a lot of juice rule of thumb on winch 1and a half times the weight of the vehicle good luck Joe.
Warn is the best but their VR series is just a import version to compete with the cheaper winches. They are too expensive to be like the rest with just a Warn name plate. Wouldn't bother with the VR series myself. if I was getting a Warn because it's a Warn, I would get their real models.
I have the Smittybilt XRC8 myself and have had no issues with it but a model that has been getting good reviews for a Cheaper winch is the ENGO. You can find several vendors selling them in the Vendor section
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Everyone will tell you Warn is the best. But for occassional use I think you can get by with something less expensive. I am using a Superwinch and have had very good luck with it.
You do not need a second battery.
I have a Warn now and had a SuperWinch on my last JK. Haven't used either one of them as I seem to always wheel with someone and use a strap when someone gets stuck. I guess the winch is there just in case and is bumper decoration. You don't really need a second battery but be sure the engine is running when using the winch.
The one recommendation all winches seem to have is a 650 cca battery, stock battery in the JK is a 600 cca. That said, I havent seen any one have any issues with the stock battery on its own, providing you keep the engine running. Personally I run a Tigerz11 10,000lb rope winch. 1/2 the price of the 'real' warn down here and whilst not used in anger yet seems to work well.
Cheers from Downunder, Dave.
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Get a winch that is rated to pull 1.5x your expected *loaded* weight.
You only need a second battery if the first one fails...
Depending on where you go, how many folks are around... are tow trucks easily available... I'm out and about with no support sometimes not seeing others for days..... I have 2 batteries.
It helps to not only keep the jeep running, but bump your rpm's (easy with an aev module) for winching. And don't winch for long periods of time. Winch... stop. Repeat. That will help a *lesser* winch last...
I do not have a winch now but i have had a Warn on my other two jeeps, had a 6,000 pound on my cj5 and an 8000 pounder on my 97 tj wrangler 2 door. Never any problems out of either and great pulling power. They are priced above the new ones on the market though.
I have yet to battle test it, since I bought it just prior to getting shipped off for a few months. Still state side, just 400+ from family and not wanting my ride home to get to F'd and not be able to get me home when ever I'm able to.
I am thinking if I get a winch it will probably never be used. I have paid attention and it seems where the nasty stuff is here in Florida there are no trees even close to the distance of a winch cable. 150' is a pretty short distance
For me it is Warn and nothing else. That is all I have run on any of my vehicles and all I will ever run. Yes they are more expensive than the others but quality usually is. They work EVERY time I have needed them and I never worry with a Warn on the front.
As for the occassional use criteria. Many think that I may only use it once in a while so I don't need a high quality (read, expensive) winch. The only problem with this thinking is that the one time you really need the winch because you are stuck in the back country that is when you really want to count on the winch to work, not wonder if the el' cheapo winch you bought to save a few bucks is really going to work. My two cents anyways.
Dual batteries are not necessary for winch operation. Just keep in mind that you will want to keep the engine running to produce enough current to compensate for the amount you are draining from the battery.
I added dual batteries for two reasons, first and formost for redundancy. All of that bouncing around in the back country is hard on todays batteries because they are putting the plates so close together to get the reserve capacity and the cranking amps that it is common to short a couple of plates together and then your stranded.
With a dual battery setup you still have another to get you started and back to civilization.
The second reason is the amount of available current for accessories such as winch, compressor, lighing, etc.
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