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Old 08-07-2011, 10:23 AM   #1
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Would Stripped down Wrangler sell ?

If all the modern interior look was removed from the inside and outside of the Wrangler and offered in olive drab or desert tan, would it sell enough to make it profitable ?
There might be enough veteran seniors around that would buy it.

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If removed--

Then replaced with what ?--thay can't sell an "Incomplete" vehicle-

Ask AEV how many of their modified JK/JKUs are sold--they cost BIG BUCKS-

I'm an "old vet" and I wouldn't buy one like that !

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Old 08-07-2011, 11:46 AM   #3
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If removed--

Then replaced with what ?--thay can't sell an "Incomplete" vehicle-

Ask AEV how many of their modified JK/JKUs are sold--they cost BIG BUCKS-

I'm an "old vet" and I wouldn't buy one like that !

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Another old vet. Nope. I like my YJ, but it's nice to have all the good stuff on my 10 Rubi.
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Alright guys I get the message. By the way I wasn't talking about doing away with the present Wrangler, just adding a new variation.
Oh well, I guess it's just me !
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BroomHandle, i understand what you mean or i think i do.

You mean taking out all the electronics right? just put in a standard AM/FM radio nothing big, and a 6speed manual transmission. No carpet. and only lighting that you need on the inside. This would make the jeep "rugged". I'd get one. Desert flat tan, but it would have to have a seal on it i can't stand the feel of that paint the army uses. And put a brush guard and winch on the mother and you got your self a solid jeep.

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Alright guys I get the message. By the way I wasn't talking about doing away with the present Wrangler, just adding a new variation.
Oh well, I guess it's just me !
Just remember when you mention "old vets", your gonna get some non-groupee opinions !!

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Old 08-07-2011, 02:36 PM   #8
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BroomHandle, i understand what you mean or i think i do.

You mean taking out all the electronics right? just put in a standard AM/FM radio nothing big, and a 6speed manual transmission. No carpet. and only lighting that you need on the inside. This would make the jeep "rugged". I'd get one. Desert flat tan, but it would have to have a seal on it i can't stand the feel of that paint the army uses. And put a brush guard and winch on the mother and you got your self a solid jeep.

count me in
That's what I mean. The wrangler drivetrain with a military body and interior.
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if you're talkin Willy's meets JK - hell yeah!
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if you're talkin Willy's meets JK - hell yeah!
That's what I'm talking - OORRAAAHHHH
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That's what I mean. The wrangler drivetrain with a military body and interior.
Google AEV J8.
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Google AEV J8.

Looks like Jeep is already making it for military export. All they would have to do is make changes for U.S. market.
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Old 08-07-2011, 10:17 PM   #13
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I drove 1945CJ2 and 1954 Willys Overland Wagon for years.

While I loved the bare knuckle basics at that point in my life, their enchanting if not naive engineering simplicity remained for decades in absolutely primitive design areas such as brakes, power plant, suspension, weather protection, lighting and so forth.

Having to dismount to pump gas into the filler neck located directly under the driver seat cushion added an immediate authenticity to the experience, along with the occasional headiness of petroleum fumes venting during the process.

Nor do I wish to return to the simplistic honesty of manual transmission, along with foregoing an astonishing variety of other pleasures I never thought I'd like.....

Perhaps the general plush appointments of the Sahara have somehow disconnected my tenuous grasp on the pleasures of "Steampunk Wrangler" project model.....but I doubt it.

Certainly I for one could return to the bleakness of one gauge in the dash (properly metal of course)...no gas gauge, one speed wiper, 6 volt battery, etc.
After all......CJ2 went around the world without any electronics, not to mention a working effective heater, defroster or single cup holder!!!

But I ain't planning on turning in the 24G option package until my little field experiment is complete!!!

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...although.....I ~might~ tow my Steampunk Motorcycle behind it:
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Interesting idea, replace the seats with canvas covered plywood, loose the stereo and put in a PRC 25. Would I have to give up my power windows??

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If all the modern interior look was removed from the inside and outside of the Wrangler and offered in olive drab or desert tan, would it sell enough to make it profitable ?
There might be enough veteran seniors around that would buy it.
This veteran "senior" would not. The "MUTT" forever changed my posture AND the distance between each vertebrae. I wouldn't pay money to reproduce that.

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The "MUTT" forever changed my posture AND the distance between each vertebrae.
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Well, they would put SOME cushion between the plywood and the canvas

Cheeze, the wife thinks the JK is uncomfortable now, a M151 twin would not go over very well, thank you.

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I don't think it would be that bad with a JK Wrangler drivetrain and chassis. The changes would be purely cosmetic.

Oh well, it was just an idea. I loved my 1948 Jeep although I was 15 years old.
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I think it would bring down the value of a JK. Right now even the 2007 are holding value real well. But I think a TJ would make a very good candidate for this type of minimalist strip down and actually hold it's value quite well and depending on the year, may even increase the value if done real well. Not to mention the TJ is still easy to drop the window over the JK model.
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I think it would bring down the value of a JK. Right now even the 2007 are holding value real well. But I think a TJ would make a very good candidate for this type of minimalist strip down and actually hold it's value quite well and depending on the year, may even increase the value if done real well. Not to mention the TJ is still easy to drop the window over the JK model.
It would not replace the present JK. It would be a new available optional Jk model.
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Mis-read, your talking about factory produced this way not retro fitted. I guess it is a concept and as some mentioned there is the J8 already being made and very expensive. But still see a lot of issues with the JK model being made like this. Might cost them more to make a few of these even though they are stripped then they would ever sell for.
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It was just an idea. I realize that there might not be enough market wanting such a variation to make it a good financial venture.
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First thought is, why can't they make it simpler and sell it cheaper, if they don't provide all the Hoop-de-la !!

Well, the BIG Co. has to sell their computed numbers of the specific models and that means they have all the supply in stock, for all the different components and they have established production mechanized/paint/assembly lines--right ?

For them to assemble STRIPPED models (very few) would mean reprograming all the computer controlled assembly units and STILL have to have all the diff. model accessories MADE/STOCKED--$$$$$$$$$$

Your idea allthough reminescent of the good old days,-just can't be done in the modern assembly plants--

Look how much it costs to HAND ASSEMBLE any of the vehicles sold nowadays--and AEV wants a pretty penny for any of their modified production jeeps--

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About 10 years ago I was trying to buy a pick up with "NO" add on options. The dealer/salespup spent 20 minutes laboring to instruct me in how much it would cost to LEAVE OUT such as 'the standard radio' etc.


I was amazed at the gyrations the sales dept went thru to try to create appreciation & awe for just how inexpensive having the non-basic stock model 'really was'.
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Automotive Companies come out with new models of existing vehicles and entirely new vehicles quite often. Granted new lines have to be added and parts procurement and assembly procedures have to be reprogrammed, but it is done on a regular basis. Truck users have simple and complex changes made to vehicles that suit their needs. This is done as "Special Equipment" procedures. Granted the demand has to be there, for the modified vehicles but it is done.
I'm not saying that a stripped utility Wrangler would sell enough vehicles to make it a profitable venture, but it is and can be done. A consumer study would be necessary.
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Just watch Auto news for the next "X" years and be ready to buy !!


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Automotive Companies come out with new models of existing vehicles and entirely new vehicles quite often. Granted new lines have to be added and parts procurement and assembly procedures have to be reprogrammed, but it is done on a regular basis. Truck users have simple and complex changes made to vehicles that suit their needs. This is done as "Special Equipment" procedures. Granted the demand has to be there, for the modified vehicles but it is done.
I'm not saying that a stripped utility Wrangler would sell enough vehicles to make it a profitable venture, but it is and can be done. A consumer study would be necessary.
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Why are Jeeps equipped like car?--> I WANT A JEEP!

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Look at it this way, I'm in the market for a new vehicle.

I'm not buying a new Jeep because, I can't get it my way. I'm not seeking a MomMoBile! I want a stripped unit. The heck with a Wrangler Trim Level! I even want manual hubs. No electronics, No service issues, no nothing. SIMPLE!

I have no need for a Sissified Jeep. I'll buy my own radio, I want vinyl seats, heck all I want is a Cheap, Solid, Convertible CJ that's it! Frankly... I'd like a new tech 4 cyl engine with a 6 speed manual trans.

If I wanted a Jeep equipped like a car, I'd buy a car. In fact my wife and I have 3 cars now. We want a Real Jeep, these Faux Jeep Posers are for girls going to Wal*Mart, I'm looking for a Jeep!

Please Stop forcing me to buy a rebuilt old jeep, I'm a new Jeep buyer!!!
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I bought a relatively basic jk... sport with a stick and ragtop. Lookong at this forum and some of the laundry lists of flashing radios and other gadgetry leads me to believe that spending more for less is a nonstarter.

That said, i like the relative simplicity of my particular jk... but the ac is great for defrosting window. Yes, Eunice... I sprang for the air.
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Wranglers sell successfully in a variety of conditions, modifications, and states of disrepair.

The highest retail values will always be in pristine condition, whether that be stock (OEM) or in a quality, professionally installed modifications. Backyard modifications will deduct value.

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