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Old 07-03-2013, 10:43 AM   #31
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dang, now something else consider... painted vs unpainted fenders... thanks for the insight!

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Old 07-03-2013, 11:55 AM   #32
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dang, now something else consider... painted vs unpainted fenders... thanks for the insight!

There ain't a question here.

If you want the street look, like in that photo, some things aren't negotiable.

- color-matched hard top
- painted fenders
- big ass wheels
- low profile tires (tread pattern is negotiable, but most go with street tread)
- a leveling kit to get the rake out or better yet, drop that sucker

What you do not want is:

- wheel gap (you want the fenders to look full)
- plastic fenders
- a soft top (unless it's some custom deal that looks really clean)
- anything that looks like it's for the dirt


So you know the MPG sucks, and you know it sucks as a car, but you want it.

That's ok. In fact, it's cool as hell.

SA, H-town, Austin, all of the Texas Triangle is full of otherwise capable bad-ass off-roaders that are tricked, sleeked up or slammed for the street. Game on.

I know all this is subjective man, but plastic fenders hovering over big street wheels would be hard to pull off.

Just get a Sahara and get the checkbook out. The other alternative is to get a Rubicon and make it look like an off-road champ with big ass mud tires, a winch, about 10 off-road lights but just don't get it dirty. Folks down there do that too (and here, and everywhere else) and that's cool too.

If you like getting dirty and plan to do it, trick an 85 Cut or a slam a 79 Chevy truck for the street and buy a Jeep to get on with the dirt

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Old 07-03-2013, 12:33 PM   #33
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I think the 14 sports are going to be able to get some kind of nav option.
The Sports are getting the 430 touch screen, but not with the Nav Option.

The unpainted standard fenders (even the black on black) would look all kinds of horrible on a street ride with low profile tires.

Polished rims and tires, unpolished fender, polished body color.

Unless you went with a completely aftermarket flat color body repaint (I keep seeing this done around here, like a truck bed lining on the whole thing) it would look like ass.

Just my opinion. YMMV.
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:35 PM   #34
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I suppose I am more of a luxury driver, that is why I am not that big into off roading although I am sure it would be fun. I am still looking forward for the 4WD / towing capabilities when I need it.
The Wrangler sucks for towing. Is rated at only 3,500 lbs. If you want luxury, towing and 4wd I would recommend the Grand Cherokee.
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Old 07-03-2013, 02:16 PM   #35
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I plan on towing small stuff in the near future (doesn't bother me). I did check out the Grand Cherokee, but I want to be able to take off the top (I love the inside of the GC)...
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Old 12-29-2013, 07:45 AM   #36
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Hi,
I'm totally new to the Jeep-- in the throes decision making this weekend. Love the Wrangler 4-door body style. Have owned 3 black Mustang GT Conv over the years but ready for a change and need the space to transport bikes and dogs. I've driven a 2014 Sahara & Rubicon-- love the tougher look of the Rubicon, but will be driving on streets. Is it better to buy Sahara and toughen the look more like the Rubicon or go all in and have the tools if I need them. Is there a way to soften the Rubicon ride for around town w/o replacing suspension? Any suggestions/advice would be most appreciated. Thank you.
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Old 12-29-2013, 08:11 AM   #37
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my guess is if you test drove a new rubicon from the dealer they had the tire pressure jacked up way to high. I know when I picked mine up they were around 45 psi or something like that. lower them to 32psi and smooths right out. Also stock rubicon rubber is not the smoothest out there. better to have all the tools in the tool box for when you need them then trying to add them when it is too late.
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Old 12-29-2013, 06:37 PM   #38
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I traded a Sahara for a Rubicon. My Rubicon rides as good as the Sahara. I still have leather, heated seats ,and navigation. Me and a friend went out trail riding yesterday, him in a Sahara. We decided to pull up and park on a cutoff log that was about 12-18 inches tall. in 4lo my Rubicon drove straight up the log. His turn in 4 lo and he struggled, he had wheel spin and lugging the engine from the transfer case difference. We drove up the side where it was cut flat not the rounded side which wasn't hard but the rubicon handled it better.
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Old 01-02-2014, 03:30 AM   #39
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It all depends on what you want

Iīll give you my opinion. I have a Sahara Unlimited 2013. I always wanted a jeep, and by that I mean a Wrangler (for me thereīs no other jeep than Wrangler, no Cherokee, no Liberty, no nothing, but the classic Wrangler) I go off roading every once in a while, but I would like to do it more often (once you try it, itīs going to be difficult to ignore it) and if you are not a hardcore off roader, I think the Sahara is just fine, you donīt need more, you can do incredible things with it. I have gone to the woods, through mud, through dust, through rocks and the car has a great performance and you can have lots of fun. The problem I find is that it stresses me the fact that when I go to the woods I can hear the branches of the trees scratching the paint and my car actually has some looong (they go from door to door) but no deep scratches. I even carry a pair of garden scissors, but even with them I canīt avvoid the minor scratches. But anyways, letīs say the paint gets "hurt" and if you care about this in your wrangler, you must consider it.

Anyway, my point is that I am seriously thinking about buying a used jeep so I can go off roading without worrying about my car getting scratched or so and just give that car a really unsensitive treatment, because the 2013 I bought it thinking of it as a car for a life, with no modifications, just a classic jeep. At the end buying a jeep is some sort of a whim and If this is a whim for you too, you are gonna want to take care of it.
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Iīll give you my opinion. I have a Sahara Unlimited 2013. I always wanted a jeep, and by that I mean a Wrangler (for me thereīs no other jeep than Wrangler, no Cherokee, no Liberty, no nothing, but the classic Wrangler) I go off roading every once in a while, but I would like to do it more often (once you try it, itīs going to be difficult to ignore it) and if you are not a hardcore off roader, I think the Sahara is just fine, you donīt need more, you can do incredible things with it. I have gone to the woods, through mud, through dust, through rocks and the car has a great performance and you can have lots of fun. The problem I find is that it stresses me the fact that when I go to the woods I can hear the branches of the trees scratching the paint and my car actually has some looong (they go from door to door) but no deep scratches. I even carry a pair of garden scissors, but even with them I canīt avvoid the minor scratches. But anyways, letīs say the paint gets "hurt" and if you care about this in your wrangler, you must consider it.

Anyway, my point is that I am seriously thinking about buying a used jeep so I can go off roading without worrying about my car getting scratched or so and just give that car a really unsensitive treatment, because the 2013 I bought it thinking of it as a car for a life, with no modifications, just a classic jeep. At the end buying a jeep is some sort of a whim and If this is a whim for you too, you are gonna want to take care of it.
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Old 01-02-2014, 04:02 AM   #41
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add one more voice to the confusion.....My wife has a '14 JKU POLAR...in Hydro except for Low profile tires I think it is gonna be what the OP wanted she likes it just fine.....and to me for what she is gonna do with it, it's about as perfect as it gets.
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Old 01-02-2014, 04:07 AM   #42
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The 4:1 low gear ratio control of the Rubi make it the champ of off road. Combine that with Dana axles and other Rubi features and their is no reason to go Sahara in my opinion. If you like the Sahara side boards, buy them and put them on your Rubi. I did that on my last Rubi. If you like half doors buy the Rubi then take the full doors off and put the half doors on when you are going wheeling. I can take doors off or put them back on in about 5 minutes total. The Rubi is the best base for the money.



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I'm totally new to the Jeep-- in the throes decision making this weekend. Love the Wrangler 4-door body style. Have owned 3 black Mustang GT Conv over the years but ready for a change and need the space to transport bikes and dogs. I've driven a 2014 Sahara & Rubicon-- love the tougher look of the Rubicon, but will be driving on streets. Is it better to buy Sahara and toughen the look more like the Rubicon or go all in and have the tools if I need them. Is there a way to soften the Rubicon ride for around town w/o replacing suspension? Any suggestions/advice would be most appreciated. Thank you.
Replace the tires.

My rubi came with MT load range E tires (load range E is what should be on 3/4 ton tuck). I replaced them with GY Duratracs load range C and it made a night and day difference.
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It doesn't matter if you are taking it off road or not. Get whichever one you like better. If you like painted fenders, get that too. What difference does any of that make when you are going to make it look like crap anyway?
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It doesn't matter if you are taking it off road or not. Get whichever one you like better. If you like painted fenders, get that too. What difference does any of that make when you are going to make it look like crap anyway?
Well said. I am about to pull the trigger on a 2014 unlimited and undecided between a Sahara or Rubicon. I will say I don't like the painted fenders ( really dislike the painted fenders)or the wheels on the Sahara and love the Rubicon. I'm not a hardcore off-roader and understand that it may be under utilized...who cares..the Rubicon has a great look and really isn't incredibly more expensive than the sahara. Great thread..it has helped a lot in my decision making.

On that note where can I get this thing really dirty in northeast MA ?
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To answer a few questions.

- Rubicons will most likely ride rougher and be louder at highway speeds because of the suspension and the tires.
- My 2014 Rubicon has painted top and fenders.
- If you don't know why a Rubicon is more expensive, buy the Sahara. You even mentioned that you are not into offroading.

Those 20" wheels will hurt ride quality quite a bit.
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Old 01-20-2014, 08:52 PM   #47
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Tires stick out on jeeps, and at one time or another will throw rocks. Rocks and painted fenders end up looking bad. May be a thought to think about. You can option a sport just like a sahara with exception of painted fenders and top. Just bringing up some things I have noticed.
Sadly, I learned that the hard way. Took the Jeep offroad for the first time with 600 miles on it. Got overly excited and was going 30-40mph on a gravel road. Already have paint chips on my painted fenders...
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I have no idea why you would want to buy a Wrangler and put street tires/wheels on it. It's kind of like buying a Mustang and put off road tires on it. I can understand the cool factor being able to take the top off, but the 4x4 will be a waste of money.

If you have never been off-road, give it a try before you buy. I can pretty much guarantee that you will be hooked. I too was stuck between the Sahara and Rubicon. Being that it will be going off-road here and there I'm glad I opted for the Rubi. I like the black fenders and hardtop since they'll stay looking good longer. I also love the manual tranny. Reminds me of my old CJs.

I knew where to go off-road when we lived in the south, but we've been in central OH for 3 years and it appears there is nothing close by.

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