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Old 10-30-2013, 01:03 PM   #1
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Write-Up: E-Autogrilles (Paramount Restyling) Grille Insert Installation

After seeing all of the gutter guard threads, I had originally decided that I wanted a Rampage grille insert. However, it was $189 that I didn't want to part with easily.

I had found an auction on Ebay for an E-Autogrilles grill insert - 07 13 Jeep JK Wrangler Black Bug Screen Mesh Stainless Grille Insert Cover Grill | eBay

Bottom line - It was $57.95 and free shipping. If it was garbage, I wasn't out that much, and it cost me about 30 bucks more than all of the work/parts involved in the gutter guard mod.

The box arrived this morning (I ordered on the 23rd) , and I started to get to work...





And SURPRISE! It came with installation instructions! Those instructions verified that it is a Paramount Restyling part.



It seemed to be heavy enough, and strong enough to do the job. The finish looks nice, and has a gloss to it. The kit came with all necessary mounting hardware.



So I went out to get to work:

Open the hood and remove the grille:

Remove all black mounting inserts with a trim remover or screwdriver



Pull grille forward to reveal lower mounting clips and to un-snap the clips under the headlights



Un-snap the bottom row of clips



Remove connectors on the turn signals buy pulling the red tab out, then pressing on button to remove (couldn't get a good pic of this, I needed both hands!!)



The grille should come off now. Take it outside and clean it!



Test fit the grille insert. It will fit "close" to center of each slot. It's not perfect, but unless you sit there with a measuring tool, you're not going to notice...



Here are a couple pics of how the brackets line up to where you have to drill. Someone asked if you have to drill for this installation. The answer is yes, but it's minimal, and only on the grille.





Line up the lower brackets and press the grille insert into place. Using a punch, mark your holes. Do this for each lower bracket.



Using a 3/16" bit, drill out the holes. Be careful, as you might have to go at it on an angle, so don't drill through the front of the grille.



Lightly attach the brackets to the grille. Do not tighten yet.


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Part 2

Flip it over and see how it looks so far



Flip it back over. Hold the grille into place, and tighten the bolts.



Turn the grille with the top facing you. Using your knee and your finger, press the bracket up to the grille. Do not try to bend your stock grille down to the insert. You do not want to warp the fit.



Punch your holes



Insert nuts/bolts. Do not tighten.



Press the grille insert into place, and tighten the bolts.



Flip it over and admire



Install the grille back onto your Jeep in reverse order. You will notice that you have to push a bit to get it back in place. There is a wire loom that goes under the grille. Make sure it is out of the way. Once you get the grille close, you will have to lift the lip up to get it on due to the new mounting bolts.

You will also notice a little distortion of this upper lip. You probably could leave it, but it looks like crap.





If you want to, drill out a hole under where the new mounting bolts lie. You can use a 3/8" bit. I just dimpled some room out and all's well.



It lies much better after the drilling



And the finished product:





I think this was well worth the $57.95. Let me know what you think.

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Old 10-30-2013, 01:07 PM   #3
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Nice write up! Very reasonalbe cost...i also have seen some of those that go for $189 + and cant figure why they cost so much for plastic inserts that cost about $5 in parts. ANyway looks like a nice option for alot of people and you can probably easily paint the mesh to your liking!
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Thanks! BTW - This is not plastic, it's metal.
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Yeah i meant the plastic $189 ones
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Thanks! BTW - This is not plastic, it's metal.

Oops, read that wrong.


Thanks much, I've been waiting a long time for someone to review!
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Oops, read that wrong.


Thanks much, I've been waiting a long time for someone to review!
You are welcome. I think you would be happy with it...
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Looks good! I did the plastic gutter guard zip tie fiasco and hated it; lasted about month. Another decent grille insert for anyone looking is the drake offroad billet inserts. I got mine for 90$ on eBay it's all metal and easily bolts on using brackets that clamp the insert in. No drilling, no tape or adhesives. Does a good job of protecting the rad for this winter!

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Looks good! I did the plastic gutter guard zip tie fiasco and hated it; lasted about month. Another decent grille insert for anyone looking is the drake offroad billet inserts. I got mine for 90$ on eBay it's all metal and easily bolts on using brackets that clamp the insert in. No drilling, no tape or adhesives. Does a good job of protecting the rad for this winter!

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That was going to be my next choice.. nice...
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I'm trying to wrap my head around the last bit of drilling. What did you drill into to reduce the dimpling? What's under where the mounting bolts lie?

Thanks for the pics and a great write-up. I was considering one of the Chicom "OEM" ebay knockoffs, but at around $125, this seems like a similar design, and a much better option.
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Looks good! Great write up as well.

I just went on ebay to buy one. $57.95 for the grille, $120 shipping to Canada. Give me a break..
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I'm trying to wrap my head around the last bit of drilling. What did you drill into to reduce the dimpling? What's under where the mounting bolts lie?

Thanks for the pics and a great write-up. I was considering one of the Chicom "OEM" ebay knockoffs, but at around $125, this seems like a similar design, and a much better option.

The top crossmember that the grille snaps into with the plastic rivets has some plastic across it. I drilled down into the plastic where the bolts end up resting. You probably could drill all the way through if you want to, but I didn't.
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I installed this one also and it simply looks great. You can't beat the price for the quality of this product.
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Much obliged, milani, and more pics, please, Gonzo. I want to see how that grill will look with my CG!
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Looks good! Great write up as well.

I just went on ebay to buy one. $57.95 for the grille, $120 shipping to Canada. Give me a break..
You should just make your own. Not hard at all there are a few htreads on here on how to do it .... $20 in parts.
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Looks like the exact same design as the Rugged Ridge insert I installed 10 months ago. I think it cost me $49.95 if I remember correctly. I currently have it removed to do a little painting, but it has held up very well.
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I like the RR ones, but I've read about fitment and rust issues. Both are cheap enough that it wouldn't hurt to try either.

Last question, milani, I know these are powder coated, but do you think they are really "stainless steel" as claimed?
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Great write up! And it looks great.
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Nice - I was just looking at these with the hole for the hood lock on ebay but wasn't sure I wanted to deal with the whole direct from China bit.
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Nice - I was just looking at these with the hole for the hood lock on ebay but wasn't sure I wanted to deal with the whole direct from China bit.
The e-autogrilles part does not come from china. It came from California
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I got one of these and had some trouble.

Here is the issues I've had.
First, my jeep has the factory hood lock. NO problem, I cut out the top portion of the center opening and that fixed the hood lock issue.

The second problem is the temperature sensor on the bottom driver side and the wirling loom on the top center.
I havent resolved these issues yet.

I also had to put the screws from the bottom and put the nuts on top, to reduce the amount of interference the screws were giving when trying to mount the grill to the jeep.

Anyone have the same problem?

In the pictures above, I see that your temp sensor is there...and not moved...

I will say thought that trying to cut out the piece for the hood lock was tough..

this stuff is VERY heavy duty. IN fact it is MUCH more heavy duty than the plastic grill of our trucks.
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I got one of these and had some trouble.

Here is the issues I've had.
First, my jeep has the factory hood lock. NO problem, I cut out the top portion of the center opening and that fixed the hood lock issue.

The second problem is the temperature sensor on the bottom driver side and the wirling loom on the top center.
I havent resolved these issues yet.

I also had to put the screws from the bottom and put the nuts on top, to reduce the amount of interference the screws were giving when trying to mount the grill to the jeep.

Anyone have the same problem?

In the pictures above, I see that your temp sensor is there...and not moved...

I will say thought that trying to cut out the piece for the hood lock was tough..

this stuff is VERY heavy duty. IN fact it is MUCH more heavy duty than the plastic grill of our trucks.
I didn't move the sensor. I did twist the wiring loom to get it out of the way a bit. In order to make room for the nuts/bolts when I mounted the grille to the jeep, I dimpled the metal and plastic under where the nuts/bolts meet the crossmember. I used a 3/8" bit. You could drill holes all the way through the crossmember, and the grille will then snap into place.
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But didnt it distort your grille?

It required quite a bit of force to push it into place and the bottom where the sensor is has already popped out...

i'll have to take another look.
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I just installed one of these, I ended up taking out the top bolts/nuts, it just would not fit right. It actually seats very well without them and is quite snug due to the L brackets being flush against the frame.

What this really needs instead of the bolts along the top are rivets. I'm going to pick some up tomorrow.
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I used rivets along the top today, and it slid right into place with no fuss and no distortion, looks pretty pro too if I do say so myself.

1/4" grip by 1/8" diameter rivets with a small washer on the backside.

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This is what I did with my top bolts: I flipped them so the the bolt head was in the bottom part avoiding the dimple. Then I used a dremel tool to cut the excess bolt and painted them with touch up paint. However, I have to agree that the cleanest way to do this is with rivets like Cringer did.
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I used rivets along the top today, and it slid right into place with no fuss and no distortion, looks pretty pro too if I do say so myself.

1/4" grip by 1/8" diameter rivets with a small washer on the backside.

Interesting, what type of riveter did you use?
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Interesting, what type of riveter did you use?
I used something like this, your local sears should have something similar.

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I used rivets along the top today, and it slid right into place with no fuss and no distortion, looks pretty pro too if I do say so myself.

1/4" grip by 1/8" diameter rivets with a small washer on the backside.

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