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Old 08-14-2013, 04:14 AM   #151
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Yep that's why I want to run the MC arms. More flex and also slightly better ride from a slightly more cushioned vs. stock joint apparently. So it sounds like their arms would be a good match with the brackets. Just have to decide AEV vs. Rancho. Since the holes on the Rancho are just one set, I suppose having the adjustability via aftermarket CA's would be a bonus for dialing in axle centering and caster/pinion.
Last paragraph nails it,

What wasn't right .. Posting "my" Rancho link in "my" AEV thread lol

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Old 08-14-2013, 04:21 AM   #152
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NO JOKE!

I installed the drop brackets back in March, they made a massive improvement.. You come in here and people bitch and cry about the 1.4 inches of lost clearance at a place directly behind the front wheels where you're about 99 percent certain never to hit a rock unless you're crawling boulders which isn't AT ALL the supension solution that AEV is selling. Overland and Rock Crawl are not the same thing guys...

I don't get it.

And I've mentioned more than once that ANYONE who is doing anything so extreme that they are going to bang these on the ground is sure as hell not running a 2.5 inch lift, they are running (or should be) more like 4 to 6.

AEV haters are just people that don't own any AEV stuff. I love mine, and I make it do plenty of hard stuff. But then M-thru-F its my commuter and it kicks ass at that too.
I obviously don't run AEV but agree. I posted these pics before. Mike is running 37's and I believe 3-4" lift. stock control arms lengthened in the rear for pinion angle. AND...... AEV drop brackets. This guy wheels hard and not afraid of anything. You can see the axle steer going on with the stock arms. That's the only draw back running them.
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Old 08-14-2013, 01:53 PM   #153
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Bottom line, having 2.5 RK max travel lift installed and 35” tires, which would give me a better (more comfortable ride) AEV or Rancho??

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Old 08-14-2013, 02:09 PM   #154
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Bottom line, having 2.5 RK max travel lift installed and 35” tires, which would give me a better (more comfortable ride) AEV or Rancho??

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Either. You have lower arms so you can fine tune caster to whatever you like.
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Old 08-14-2013, 02:34 PM   #155
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so, If the price does not play any role here, which is the better product here?
quality, easier installation, durability, maintenance, comfort??

You tried both, any preferences there??

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I like the Rancho brackets. Built stronger and easier to install. Ride is about the same. They both do the same thing.
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I was leading towards the Rancho as well simply for the installation ease as it’s a one piece, but wanted to make sure that there are no differences in the ride quality.

Also, since there are no holes like in the AEV for different heights, will Rancho be the best fit for my RK 2.5 lift??
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Glad you're still liking the Rancho's.

If I ever go more than 2.5", I'd seriously consider going with them.
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I was leading towards the Rancho as well simply for the installation ease as it’s a one piece, but wanted to make sure that there are no differences in the ride quality.

Also, since there are no holes like in the AEV for different heights, will Rancho be the best fit for my RK 2.5 lift??
How much lift you have ?
The hole in the Rancho bracket Is the same as AEV's 3-3.5
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Old 08-14-2013, 05:11 PM   #160
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How much lift you have ?
The hole in the Rancho bracket Is the same as AEV's 3-3.5

Well, i have RK 2.5 max travel, but in reality i have gained closer to 3"
I would have to measure it again as i have dumped heavy PS bumper with front skid.
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Well, i have RK 2.5 max travel, but in reality i have gained closer to 3"
I would have to measure it again as i have dumped heavy PS bumper with front skid.
The Rancho brackets will work great at 3"
I'm at 3.5 with RK coils and taking a quick pinion measurement I'm around 5* caster. 3" should have you around 4.5* which is stock. Actually doesn't matter for you because of the adjustable LCA's
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NO JOKE!

I installed the drop brackets back in March, they made a massive improvement.. You come in here and people bitch and cry about the 1.4 inches of lost clearance at a place directly behind the front wheels where you're about 99 percent certain never to hit a rock unless you're crawling boulders which isn't AT ALL the supension solution that AEV is selling. Overland and Rock Crawl are not the same thing guys...


And I've mentioned more than once that ANYONE who is doing anything so extreme that they are going to bang these on the ground is sure as hell not running a 2.5 inch lift, they are running (or should be) more like 4 to 6.
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I am running AEV's 2.5 with the brackets and have indeed banged my brackets. Lost clearance is lost clearance. But like I said when I posted the pics, without the brackets, I may have banged my stock mounts. Or the frame. Or whatever that damn rock felt like hitting.

But yeah, AEV's use of brackets is quite the sore spot for the haters. When i upgrade to the MC 3.5, chances are I'll keep these brackets and use them both.

And my brackets weren't the only thing that suffered that day:


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I am running AEV's 2.5 with the brackets and have indeed banged my brackets. Lost clearance is lost clearance. But like I said when I posted the pics, without the brackets, I may have banged my stock mounts. Or the frame. Or whatever that damn rock felt like hitting.

But yeah, AEV's use of brackets is quite the sore spot for the haters. When i upgrade to the MC 3.5, chances are I'll keep these brackets and use them both.

And my brackets weren't the only thing that suffered that day:

You know what they say.. Haters gonna hate.

Yeah, I know you can bang those brackets. And obviously 1 inch lost is 1 inch lost...

But for pretty much 98% of the people, that bracket is never going to hit anything. So why suffer the crying?

There is this big man jerking your dong out crud on this site that would have you believe that every jeep owner is up to his ankles in tall rocks every day. And really, most of us work for a living. Because of ... Gotta buy parts!

Then you have the crowd that actually DOES wheel 'em a little hard a few times a year. Then you got the dirt road runners, and so on... Then you got the guys who brag that they mounted the underglow lights (no joke, I really saw that a few days ago.. Have a nice mall crawl).

My point is, that anyone that is HONESTLY in the deep rocks regularly isn't buying an AEV drop bracket. And the people that really are buying the drop brackets REALLY do need them, and they are the right solution for them. I have them, and I run hard trails... but I'm not doing any rock walk stuff, for cripes sake its a JKU on a 3 inch lift, thats all you need to know haha.. This is not a hard crawler.

Oh, I should end this rant.. Anyhow, the short version is that nobody who does hard crawling is thinking about drop brackets, and nobody thinking about drop brackets is a hard crawler, and maybe everyone ought to just stop shaking their nut sacks around... You know?
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Remember ..some folks have the luxury to either trailer their jeep or live close to their wheeling spot. I have to travel a good distance to wheel. Driving a poorly riding jeep is no fun.

I think AEV gets a bad rap not just because of the brackets but retention of stock parts and cost,
Control arms/track bars and even a RHD drag link w/ their high steer.

I truly believe the drop brackets make the AEV lift drive as good as it does. More so with the coils and 5100's (I hated fwiw)

The best part of modding a jeep, you can do what ever you please. Choose any lift manufacturer you want or mix and match parts like I did. You are always going to have naysayers, web wheelers that want to steer you in one direction or another.
Do your research and make your own decisions and don't listen to a lot of crap spewed on the forums.
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Remember ..some folks have the luxury to either trailer their jeep or live close to their wheeling spot. I have to travel a good distance to wheel. Driving a poorly riding jeep is no fun.

The best part of modding a jeep, you can do what ever you please. Choose any lift manufacturer you want or mix and match parts like I did. You are always going to have naysayers, web wheelers that want to steer you in one direction or another.
Do your research and make your own decisions and don't listen to a lot of crap spewed on the forums.
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I had the AEV drop brackets prior to get the upper and lower arms. They made a difference and improved ride, however, they did nothing for the rear. At a miniumn I would recommend at least upgrading the upper rear arms as well.
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Well after putting it off for far to long I installed the AEV drop brackets today. I loved how my Jeep drove and that's why I went back and forth about doing them or not.

OK right away I noticed that the bumps are less harsh then they were. It seems to drive smoother and steering response feels a bit quicker to me. I'm glad I finally installed them. If not for this thread I would never have got them.

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Well after putting it off for far to long I installed the AEV drop brackets today. I loved how my Jeep drove and that's why I went back and forth about doing them or not.

OK right away I noticed that the bumps are less harsh then they were. It seems to drive smoother and steering response feels a bit quicker to me. I'm glad I finally installed them. If not for this thread I would never have got them.

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just bumping this up for a question. I scored a new set of these for a great price on another forum. I read the install instructions from the aev website. it says some passenger side upper control arms are a pain. Anybody know if its the 3.6L or the earlier models that are the problem or perhaps both. I have just over 5.5" measured the way AEV says to measure which is strange being I have only 2" spacers. Measure 23" from bottom of flare to center of hub as well so by most accounts I have over a normal 2" lift.
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If this problem exists, it has nothing to do with the brackets, it is the CA bolt. I struggled a while on the bolt on the frame side on the upper CA bolt. I almost cut it on my '09 but I assumed it was just because I was in a slight hurry because I decided to start really late in afternoon and it was getting dark.
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If this problem exists, it has nothing to do with the brackets, it is the CA bolt. I struggled a while on the bolt on the frame side on the upper CA bolt. I almost cut it on my '09 but I assumed it was just because I was in a slight hurry because I decided to start really late in afternoon and it was getting dark.
I am quoting from the aev instructions that it says the exhaust will be in the way of removing the passenger side bolt on some vehicles but I look at mine and it does not look like I will have any clearance issues so thinking maybe this is for the 3.8L and not an issue on the 3.6L.
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On the newer vehicles I believe 10+ you will have to do one of the following, either remove the exhaust or cut off the bolt and use the new one for the install. You can get a new bolt from the dealer (or online).
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just bumping this up for a question. I scored a new set of these for a great price on another forum. I read the install instructions from the aev website. it says some passenger side upper control arms are a pain. Anybody know if its the 3.6L or the earlier models that are the problem or perhaps both. I have just over 5.5" measured the way AEV says to measure which is strange being I have only 2" spacers. Measure 23" from bottom of flare to center of hub as well so by most accounts I have over a normal 2" lift.
When I installed my lift on my 2014, I had the Sawzall ready. Turned out I didn't need it. The upper passenger CA bolt came out with just a little tilting. I don't know when clearance failed to become an issue, but it was definitely not on mine.
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seems like I should have enough room. Does this look like any of yours looked? Seems if not able to get out would have a tough time getting in too.
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Yeah, the problem is only on 07-11 with 3.8. The one on my 13 came right out.
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