Yet another really lame, stupid, wheel/tire question... - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > JK Jeep Wrangler Forum > JK General Discussion Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 01-17-2013, 08:19 AM   #1
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kearneysville, WV
Posts: 3,574
Yet another really lame, stupid, wheel/tire question...

...Hey, at least I'm honest with the title of the thread, right?

So anyway, the time is coming and I'm wanting to get new wheels. I plan on going with the AEV 2.5" DualSport lift in the future, but I don't wanna wait for wheels. I guess I plan on going with 17s like I have on my Rubicon now.

When you're all buying wheels, I understand I need backspacing to run the larger tires, but are you buying wheels with the same dimensions as stock, other than the offsets, or are you going with a wider wheel?

Con Artist is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-17-2013, 08:23 AM   #2
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
kbwwolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 12,128
There's some leeway. I'm running 16x8 wheels with my 35's. Generally (and this isn't set in stone), you'll want wheels 8-9" wide for tires up to 12.5" wide. I prefer the 8" wide wheels, personally...it gives you more room for airing down.

The wider wheels (10" and up) shouldn't come into play unless you start going with tires that are 13"+ wide...

A quick explanation, but all I got time for at the moment...

__________________


"What we see depends mainly on what we look for."
—John Lubbock
kbwwolf is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-17-2013, 08:31 AM   #3
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kearneysville, WV
Posts: 3,574
Quote:
Originally Posted by kbwwolf View Post
There's some leeway. I'm running 16x8 wheels with my 35's. Generally (and this isn't set in stone), you'll want wheels 8-9" wide for tires up to 12.5" wide. I prefer the 8" wide wheels, personally...it gives you more room for airing down.

The wider wheels (10" and up) shouldn't come into play unless you start going with tires that are 13"+ wide...

A quick explanation, but all I got time for at the moment...
Okay, because I wanted to stick with the stock dimensions if possible. My biggest concern is when I put 35"s on it, it's going to look like it has pizza cutters on it. I hate that look.
Con Artist is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-17-2013, 08:38 AM   #4
Jeeper
 
rfortune's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Oakwood, GA
Posts: 343
I went with 17x9 wheels on my '13 Rubi and fitted them with 315/70/17 Duratracs, all on the same lift you're considering.

Backspacing on these wheels is 5.6", but I have no issues at all with fitment, rubbing, etc.

Terrible picture, but our weather has been nasty since I got them installed.

__________________
2013 JK Rubicon Commando Green
AEV DualSport XT 2.5" Lift | American Outlaw Buckshot 17x9 Matte Black | GY Duratrac 315/70/17 | Bestop High Access Front w/ Bull Bar | Q9000 Winch | LEDs everywhere | ACE Rock Rails | ACE Rear Bumper w/ Tire Carrier | ACE Wide Flat Fenders
rfortune is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-17-2013, 08:42 AM   #5
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kearneysville, WV
Posts: 3,574
Quote:
Originally Posted by rfortune View Post
I went with 17x9 wheels on my '13 Rubi and fitted them with 315/70/17 Duratracs, all on the same lift you're considering.

Backspacing on these wheels is 5.6", but I have no issues at all with fitment, rubbing, etc.

Terrible picture, but our weather has been nasty since I got them installed.

Looks good. Do you have any pics from the front or rear? I'd like to see how far the wheels stick out.

How much did the tires cost you?
Con Artist is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-17-2013, 08:45 AM   #6
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
kbwwolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 12,128
Quote:
Originally Posted by Con Artist View Post
Okay, because I wanted to stick with the stock dimensions if possible. My biggest concern is when I put 35"s on it, it's going to look like it has pizza cutters on it. I hate that look.
Your tires will only look like pizza cutters if you buy skinny tires. If you go with a wide tire, say 12.5" (which is what my 35's are), it'll still be fat, regardless of whether or not you go with a 15x8" rim or a 17x9" rim. Only difference will be in the amount of sidewall, with the smaller rim (15x8) giving you a fatter sidewall.

Make sense? Not sure I'm explaining it well...

Basically, since you're planning to stick with 17" wheels (which is gonna hose you, $$-wise), I'd look for a 17x8 or 17x9 wheel with 4.5" backspacing or less. You can get away with higher backspacing with the AEV lifts, but 4.5" bs will give you the option to run just about ANY lift, should you decide to go another way in the future.

That's what I'd do, anyway.
__________________


"What we see depends mainly on what we look for."
—John Lubbock
kbwwolf is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-17-2013, 08:54 AM   #7
Jeeper
 
rfortune's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Oakwood, GA
Posts: 343
Quote:
Originally Posted by Con Artist View Post
Looks good. Do you have any pics from the front or rear? I'd like to see how far the wheels stick out.

How much did the tires cost you?
Planning to take some pics if it ever stops raining. It has rained almost non-stop since last Friday. I jumped out and took that pick last week for a friend that wanted to see them. I'll get some more for you this weekend I hope.

The wheels and tires combined, mounted and balanced, for all 5 was $2150 delivered.
__________________
2013 JK Rubicon Commando Green
AEV DualSport XT 2.5" Lift | American Outlaw Buckshot 17x9 Matte Black | GY Duratrac 315/70/17 | Bestop High Access Front w/ Bull Bar | Q9000 Winch | LEDs everywhere | ACE Rock Rails | ACE Rear Bumper w/ Tire Carrier | ACE Wide Flat Fenders
rfortune is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-17-2013, 08:56 AM   #8
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kearneysville, WV
Posts: 3,574
Quote:
Originally Posted by kbwwolf View Post
Your tires will only look like pizza cutters if you buy skinny tires. If you go with a wide tire, say 12.5" (which is what my 35's are), it'll still be fat, regardless of whether or not you go with a 15x8" rim or a 17x9" rim. Only difference will be in the amount of sidewall, with the smaller rim (15x8) giving you a fatter sidewall.

Make sense? Not sure I'm explaining it well...

Basically, since you're planning to stick with 17" wheels (which is gonna hose you, $$-wise), I'd look for a 17x8 or 17x9 wheel with 4.5" backspacing or less. You can get away with higher backspacing with the AEV lifts, but 4.5" bs will give you the option to run just about ANY lift, should you decide to go another way in the future.

That's what I'd do, anyway.
Gotcha. Wouldn't the tires be more expensive if I went with a 16" wheel as opposed to a 17" wheel? I figure the smaller the wheel, the more rubber there is, right?
Con Artist is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-17-2013, 08:58 AM   #9
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
Ltblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,015
That's what I'm doing, for now.. I pretty much use the same dimension(275/70r18 and stock was 255/70r18) even though I could probably get away with 295/75r18 with the stock wheels. Oh I do have a lift also, probably why I could get away with it
Ltblue is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-17-2013, 09:12 AM   #10
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
kbwwolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 12,128
Quote:
Originally Posted by Con Artist View Post
Gotcha. Wouldn't the tires be more expensive if I went with a 16" wheel as opposed to a 17" wheel? I figure the smaller the wheel, the more rubber there is, right?
It's actually the opposite. You can, in most cases, buy 15" wheels AND tires for about the same amount, or less, than you'd pay for 17" tires alone.

That's why I said the 17" combo would hit your wallet harder.

Problem with the 15's is that SOME wheels won't clear the brake calipers. Though most alloy wheels will (it's generally the steelies that have the most issues)...you can always check with DTD; I believe they have a list.

Also, some 35's (Duratracs, when I bought mine) don't come in the 15" size. One of the reasons I went with 16" wheels.

Plus, to me, there's a fine line btw saving $$ and weight on the tires, and having too much sidewall and too much backspacing (most 15" wheels are in the 3.75" bs or less range, meaning your tires will really stick out).

It's all a trade-off.
__________________


"What we see depends mainly on what we look for."
—John Lubbock
kbwwolf is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-17-2013, 09:17 AM   #11
Jeeper
 
onetraveller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Alaska
Posts: 715
Tire pricing seems to work the opposite way you think it would. 16s are generally cheaper than 17s which are cheaper than 18s.

Mike

__________________
2013 JKU Sahara, Commando Green - 2.5" Franken Lift - Rancho 9000xl shocks - 275/70r18 Cooper ST Maxx in summer - 265/70r18 Bizzaks in winter

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f202/re...ho-627602.html
onetraveller is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Wrangler Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



logo carid shop wrangler parts carid fender flares custom wheels store avs deflectors at carid
» Rates
Get low rates on auto insurance in Canada!

» Network Links
»Jeep Parts
» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:12 AM.



Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC