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Old 08-29-2013, 11:22 AM   #1
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I am looking to throw some 315/75/16 on my stock tj and was wondering what all ill need to do. I'm pretty knowledgeable with gears I'm pretty sure I'm going to gear to 488 but the lift has got me worried. Should I go 6" or 4" some sights contradict each other. Also what is a good lift choice?

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I am looking to throw some 315/75/16 on my stock tj and was wondering what all ill need to do. I'm pretty knowledgeable with gears I'm pretty sure I'm going to gear to 488 but the lift has got me worried. Should I go 6" or 4" some sights contradict each other. Also what is a good lift choice?
Personally if you are going to run 35s you've got some options... a 6" lift is not one that I would consider. I am currently in the process of replacing my suspension with metalcloak components because they are great quality and very they've got great customer service. They offer a 3.5" lift and with the combination of that and a small body lift 35s would go on easy. If you want the option of going lower than that you could just get you a decent 2" lift and then get you some hiline fenders... again I like metalcloak, but there are other options out there. So if you want 4" of lift, the metalcloak 3.5 will probably get you there, but if you want a kit that says 4" on the box, then the savvy/currie 4" lift would work, but I can't say I'd purchase it over metalcloak at this point.

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Since I'm in a rubicon, will I need to install a slip yoke eliminator and extended driveshaft?
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If you want to stick to short arm, and stay low, do the highline fenders of your choice and the 2.5" XFactor from rock kralwer. Let me know if you want pricing on any lifts. Also, on the Rock Krawler lift, I can swap out the joints at the frame end for their monster krawler joints for an additional $40 for the set.

Savvy or Currie are also good choices.

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Since I'm in a rubicon, will I need to install a slip yoke eliminator and extended driveshaft?
No SYE but longer shaft depending on lift height.
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My buddy just put on a curry/ savvy lift on his 06 unlimited rubi with a anti rock bar instead of the way bar and that will clear 35s no problem. It also has a 1' body and MML. You don't need a longer drive shaft as long as you don't go higher then 4' lift.
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No you will not need a SYE as you already have a fixed output yoke. Might need new DS depending on how high you go.



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I would keep the SL as low as possible to maintain the stock suspension geometry. 2"-2.5" lift springs. Would def recommend the MC Control Arms and Track Bars. Then a 1" BL that will allow you to do a Tummy Tuck later. I would also do the MC fenders to keep the approx 35" tires from rubbing.

Should provide a good on road ride by keeping the suspension geometry close to stock. MC CA will accomidate good suspension articulation and the fenders will ensure you wont rub when your wheel is stuffed. OME springs and shocks would be good match or Bilstein Shocks.
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Old 08-29-2013, 12:32 PM   #8
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I have a 2500 budget for the lift. I really want to go 4" so I have the extra flex. This is my daily driver as well. But I could care less about road feel. I've been looking at the sky jacket kits, rubicon express, and warrior. Any thoughts on these kits?
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I have a 2500 budget for the lift. I really want to go 4" so I have the extra flex. This is my daily driver as well. But I could care less about road feel. I've been looking at the sky jacket kits, rubicon express, and warrior. Any thoughts on these kits?
Stray away from Skyjacker. Rubicon Express is good, Currie Enterprises is good, Rock Krawler, Full Traction, and the like. You definitely want SYE/CV, all 8 adjustable control arms, extended brake lines, adjustable track bar front (rear if possible) relocation for the rear.

Example: Rubicon Express Part RE7000M - 4.5 Inch Super-Flex Short Arm Lift Kit with Mono Tube Shocks-RH2 Btw, the RE mono tubes are made by Bilstein and are 5100s labeled for RE. Can ship this to you for $1585.00. Then all you will need is the SYE/CV shaft of your liking.

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I have a 2500 budget for the lift. I really want to go 4" so I have the extra flex. This is my daily driver as well. But I could care less about road feel. I've been looking at the sky jacket kits, rubicon express, and warrior. Any thoughts on these kits?
Is this budget for lift and install or just lift and you are installing yourself?

Yea you can do better with $2,500.
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No the 2500 is just kit install is another entity.
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Stray away from Skyjacker. Rubicon Express is good, Currie Enterprises is good, Rock Krawler, Full Traction, and the like. You definitely want SYE/CV, all 8 adjustable control arms, extended brake lines, adjustable track bar front (rear if possible) relocation for the rear.

Example: Rubicon Express Part RE7000M - 4.5 Inch Super-Flex Short Arm Lift Kit with Mono Tube Shocks-RH2 Btw, the RE mono tubes are made by Bilstein and are 5100s labeled for RE. Can ship this to you for $1585.00. Then all you will need is the SYE/CV shaft of your liking.

Many other options out there.

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If you're willing to spend the monies and do it right, Currie, Savvy, Metalcloak, Clayton, etc. are solid options. Basically anything that uses JJs everywhere and adresses everything in here will do right by you. Surprisingly enough, most "kits" are not very complete and are often much cheaper as a result.
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If you are dead set on 4" of Lift then the Currie kit might be for you. Is it a good kit, yes. There are a couple of components that i would look else where. For the control arms, Savvy/Currie arms are very good but I would go with the MC control arms with DuroFlex Joints. Seem to be the top of the line joint, with great on road and off road qualities. I would also go with the MC track bars. Best bang for your buck track bars with the most clearance. Currie Antirock sway bar all the way. Good with Currie/Savvy Springs. You could probably benefit from a DC driveshaft. Then a 1" BL for extra clearance.


With that being said I would still suggest you look into your options of running 35's with a smaller SL. By going up to 4" of SL you put your CA at a steeper angle with throws off the suspension geometry. By sticking with a smaller SL you keep a lower COG and your suspension geometry stays closer to stock setup, providing better on and off road manners.
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So would a 3.5 with a body be better
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This is with a 4" ProComp Stage II suspension lift and 305/70R17 which are essentially 34's. No SYE or new shaft drives great no vibrations. Also running the stock 4.11 gears, they may need to be changed as it will down shift pretty easy on a small incline at 55 or 60.



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This is with a 4" ProComp Stage II suspension lift and 305/70R17 which are essentially 34's. No SYE or new shaft drives great no vibrations. Also running the stock 4.11 gears, they may need to be changed as it will down shift pretty easy on a small incline at 55 or 60.
How does it handle off road. I like to push the envelope and I need something that will keep giving.
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I have not taken it for any serious off roading since I have put this together so I cannot comment on that yet. Sorry!
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So would a 3.5 with a body be better
No. Read what we wrote. Again, if you are willing to spend the money to do it right the first time then just pick up a Currie, Savvy, or Metalcloak 4" and call it a day. Any of those companies would be able to set you up perfectly. If you want to do it cheaply and say on a super low budget, I wouldn't suggest "pushing the limit" or expecting it to ride anywhere as well as stock.
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Their is nothing wrong with Metalcloaks 3.5" and a 1.25" BL . I would actually recommend it .
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Their is nothing wrong with Metalcloaks 3.5" and a 1.25" BL . I would actually recommend it .
How did you get savvy arms with metalcloak duraflex ??
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How did you get savvy arms with metalcloak duraflex ??
You can buy just the joints to swap them out
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Avoid skyjacker, rough country, pro comp and rock krawler.
Think long and hard about currie, savvy and metalcloak. BDS makes good quality springs as well.
Cheap kit means crappy ride and crappy parts.
Read up on this as much as possible and check other sites like jeepforum for additional information.
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I have the RC N2.0 4" SL...its an okay lift but remember you get what you pay for.... Piece together your lift...I'm replacing everything except coils right now from different companies that excel in particular parts. I wish someone would have told me to build my own lift and not buy a kit...good luck with build!
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Their is nothing wrong with Metalcloaks 3.5" and a 1.25" BL . I would actually recommend it .
Of course there isn't, that would net you the same lift and allow for a TT later down the road without much trouble. We are trying to steer the op away from RC/Skyjacker etc.
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I'm upgrading to MC arms and track bars as soon as they get here
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I have actually heard allot of good about RC lifts. I have a friend who's dad installs lift kits for a living and he likes them. All of his customers love them. He does recommend staying away from pro comp. I am looking at RC 2.0 and a 1" body looks like it will do well
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Anyone have pics of their lifts standing or in action
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I have actually heard allot of good about RC lifts. I have a friend who's dad installs lift kits for a living and he likes them. All of his customers love them. He does recommend staying away from pro comp. I am looking at RC 2.0 and a 1" body looks like it will do well
Cheap kits and there are much better options out there. Installing kits doesn't mean they are good kits without ever wheeling them. Their joints fail and they ride like crap. Install the RC just means you'll be replacing those components sooner than you would with a quality lift. Build your own kit and use parts from a variety of manufacturers will give you a better riding and handling jeep.
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