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Old 09-26-2012, 01:43 PM   #1
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06 long arm and torn stock mount

I just recently purchased an 06 lj with a long arm 5.5" lift kit. I'm unsure of the brand kit because it has Rusty's springs and skyjacker heim joints. Not long after I bought it, I found the drivers oem rear upper link bar mount torn completely off. It had been rewelded previously but it was a poor repair. I have repaired it, and when I did, I had to loosen the adjustable arm (heims on each end so you can adjust it when bolted together) and put it together and then pull it to match the other. The rear end seemed to be in a bind, but it was installed in the same location as stock and the link arm was put back to where it was and it matched the other one. When I asked a local 4wd shop, they said as long as I'm running heims on both ends of my links, this would continue to happen. Is this true? The heims are noisey, and I wouldn't mind it being a little quieter. I'm tired of everyone always asking "why's it squeak like that?" BUT, If this is a problem, why is it just one mount, as all the others are fine?

Sorry for the long post, and I hope this makes sense!

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Old 09-26-2012, 01:49 PM   #2
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Hold on......OEM mount means you're running OEM-length upper arms and longer lower arms?

That's a major problem and is the reason your mount was torn off. Having rod ends on both ends (and junky ones at that) isn't helping anything.

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Old 09-26-2012, 01:57 PM   #3
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Can you post pics of said set up. May help you to get better advice.
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:01 PM   #4
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I'll post some pics tonight, but yes the uper arms use oem frame mounts and the lowers are about a foot longer.

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Old 09-26-2012, 02:04 PM   #5
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If this is the case, what would b the best solution? I'ts currently on 33's but I was thinking about going to 35's when regear.

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Old 09-26-2012, 02:13 PM   #6
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Your best solution is to sell the suspension and start fresh. Seriously.
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:33 PM   #7
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Be interesting to see the pics, but you may want to consider buying a long arm upgrade kit. A few differnt companys offer them.
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:48 PM   #9
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Working late but will get the pics up tomorrow.

I was looking at the rustys long arm kit before the op posted the link above. What's everyone's thoughts on it. I am using the jeep for transportation to/from the pipeline right of way, along with up and down it. I am also looking to start doing a little wheeling also. Mayb some rock crawling too? Lol

Imped- ill look at the link u posted. Thanks

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Old 09-27-2012, 07:28 AM   #10
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One of the last things you want are suspension components from Rustys.
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:11 PM   #11
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pic of side view


pic of both rear drivers mounts
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:16 PM   #12
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passenger rear


very little shock clearance and the track bar relocator



When the mount tore, the lower spring mount was actually rubbing against the shock
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:20 PM   #13
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Why Skyjacker even allowed themselves to sell that and why someone even thought to buy it is beyond me. Two very different radii describing the axle's travel = problems.

Honestly, you're probably gonna have a tough time even selling it. But I can tell you this--the TJ's stock suspension is worlds better than that junk.
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:21 PM   #14
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dropped pitman, sway bar disco, and drivers side of track bar


pass side front track bar
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:25 PM   #16
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Is this a skyjacker kit? Do I need to just buy a whole new kit, or a long arm upgrade? I would really rather have more of a vehicle specific kit, than a universal type kit.

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Old 09-27-2012, 12:34 PM   #17
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What are you talking about when you say "long arm upgrade?" That tells me nothing.

That's Skyjacker junk, Rustys springs and a JKS front track bar. I'm sure you have plenty of bump steer because you need to have the stock pitman arm installed, not the dropped unit.

The stuff I linked you to is specific to Jeep TJ's. It's not bolt-on if that's what you want, but it will yield far superior results than any bolt-on kit around.
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holy bad geometry batman!
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Wow, not quite sure what to say about that set up, I cant believe that was sold by a suspension company, are you sure its not home made? That being said, Google "Jeep tj longarm upgrade kit". It will come up with tons of companys. These kits use your stock springs/shocks. Find one with good reveiws and in your price range. Most of the kits are Y-link front and 4-link rear. They work well IMO. You may also want to look into a high steer kit to correct your steering geometry. Have fun with your build, and good luck.
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Imped - After looking closer at the links you posted, I see that the kits are for a tj. Some how the first time I looked, I thought it was universal. What do you have on your jeep? This kit? Do you have any install pics? My concern would be getting the driveshaft angles and axle brackets placed properly. When I replace the lift, I definitely want to go with the best out there, as I don't want to do it again. I'm really torn on what to do about the lift.

It'll be after the first of the year before I'll be home long enough to change the lift out to a weld on, but had thought I might could find time with a bolt on, to do a little here (out of town with limited tools) and there, so that I could continue using it on the right of way. Maybe the front one weekend and the rear the next.

I had time today to inspect the other oem upper mounts and they are showing signs of starting to crack. I may be forced to use my 2wd pickup until I get home.

I'm really starting to think I messed up buying this jeep. It needs re-geared, a new lift, and today I heard a noise from the front end that I thought was brakes. I jacked it up and push/pulled on wheel and its the wheel bearing. I jacked it up and started to take it apart, but the rotor was rusted to the hub and I ran out of time before I could get it off. The main reason I purchased this jeep was the low miles (48k) and the lift (needed more clearance to get around for work) and now It was a mistake!

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Imped - After looking closer at the links you posted, I see that the kits are for a tj. Some how the first time I looked, I thought it was universal. What do you have on your jeep? This kit? Do you have any install pics? My concern would be getting the driveshaft angles and axle brackets placed properly. When I replace the lift, I definitely want to go with the best out there, as I don't want to do it again. I'm really torn on what to do about the lift.

It'll be after the first of the year before I'll be home long enough to change the lift out to a weld on, but had thought I might could find time with a bolt on, to do a little here (out of town with limited tools) and there, so that I could continue using it on the right of way. Maybe the front one weekend and the rear the next.

I had time today to inspect the other oem upper mounts and they are showing signs of starting to crack. I may be forced to use my 2wd pickup until I get home.

I'm really starting to think I messed up buying this jeep. It needs re-geared, a new lift, and today I heard a noise from the front end that I thought was brakes. I jacked it up and push/pulled on wheel and its the wheel bearing. I jacked it up and started to take it apart, but the rotor was rusted to the hub and I ran out of time before I could get it off. The main reason I purchased this jeep was the low miles (48k) and the lift (needed more clearance to get around for work) and now It was a mistake!

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