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Old 03-13-2012, 04:33 PM   #1
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1st gear 'pops' out..?!

Hey guys, wondering if anyone can help me... I have my first jeep, a '99 TJ and the first gear keeps 'popping' out, only from starting cold normally, and can sometimes be a pain to get into reverse too... Any ideas? Very concerned re gearbox!

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Is your jeep lifted or have a BL? Remove the outer shift boot cover and look down in the opening. There is a second rubber cover under the outer. Shift into 1st and reverse and see if the shifter is hitting anything. You might have to cut or tear the inner shift boot in the 1st and R positions. I had major trouble shifting into 1st, 2nd and R. Tore the boot a tad and shifts like butter. Just my $.02. Someone else might have a suggestion for you.

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Old 03-13-2012, 05:07 PM   #3
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No it's not lifted and not sure what BL means... Sorry, very new to all this! Will have a look and see if your suggestion works, it's weird as it doesn't stall or cause any problems and defo doesn't feel like I'm crunching the gears or anything. Will let you know!
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My '05 pops out of 1st. I just stopped using it, since it's pretty useless anyway.
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Old 03-13-2012, 05:34 PM   #6
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... can sometimes be a pain to get into reverse too...
Do you mean it grinds when shifting into Reverse? If so, that is normal because Reverse gear is not synchronized. The way to shift to stop the grinding is to first momentarily shift into any forward gear and then shift into Reverse.
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Old 03-13-2012, 05:37 PM   #7
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My 08 pops out of first here and there also just make sure your fully engauged when you shift into first. Seams to be helping me. As for reverse, shift into first then reverse as first is synchronized and will align the gears allowing reverse to line up. Works for me in my jeep, both my old tj and my jk and my subaru.
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Did that one guy just say 1st gear is useless?!?!
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Did that one guy just say 1st gear is useless?!?!
For DD it pretty much is. No need for it on my 08 on road.
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:32 AM   #10
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My 98 with the ax15 transmission done that alot
Since I switched the gear oil to synthetic 10w30 motoroil
30 something thousand miles later it hasn't poped out again,no longer grings third.
Reverse is normal to grind cause it has no synchronizers,sometimes I gotta bump the clutch to get reverse to line up

When mine poped out of first it sounded like something was breaking,very loud when it pops out at 2000 rpm

If you have the nv3550 transmission.....I don't know if synthetic motor oil is approved for that transmission
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My 05 unlimited pops out of first as well. It seems like its not fully engaging or something.
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Old 03-16-2012, 05:43 AM   #12
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Ok so moving into 1st gear briefly before reverse is working yay! 1st is still popping out all over the place as a bit unsure on how to
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Remove the outer shift boot cover and look down in the opening. There is a second rubber cover under the outer. Shift into 1st and reverse and see if the shifter is hitting anything. You might have to cut or tear the inner shift boot in the 1st and R positions. I had major trouble shifting into 1st, 2nd and R. Tore the boot a tad and shifts like butter.
I think I need to find me some guys to help me!

Also... at Pincho, how do I find out which transmission figuration I have? I know it's a manual, but not much else?!!! PLEASE excuse the dumb blonde!
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Old 03-16-2012, 11:11 AM   #14
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how do I find out which transmission figuration I have?
Your transmission is an Aisin AX-15 if you have the 4.0L engine, or the Aisin AX-5 if your engine is the 2.5L.
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Yeah it's a 4.0 litre... will give that a go!
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Old 03-18-2012, 11:53 PM   #16
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It should not come out if gear.

Question, is it popping into neutral and the shifter is actually moving? Or, is it slipping at the clutch?
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Old 03-19-2012, 04:12 AM   #17
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Hey everybody
Im new here and need some help. Just bought my first Jeep (finally) but I'm already having this gear popping out issue but its my 3rd gear, Any ideas?
Thanks

Its an 05 Wrangler sport rocky mountain edt. 6 speed
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Old 03-19-2012, 07:27 AM   #18
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Hum, if this were my Mustang I would be checking my adjustable stops on my after market shifter. In the case of the jeep, this would not be the case. Never the less, I would pull the boot off and look down to see if it is getting fully engaged. Try driving with boot off for a while too.
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Old 03-20-2012, 11:35 AM   #19
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It should not come out if gear.

Question, is it popping into neutral and the shifter is actually moving? Or, is it slipping at the clutch?
It feels like it's trying to get back into neutral, but just makes this massive thudding clunk noise and then grinds if i'm still accelerating (which after the first few times I obviously stopped doing pretty quickly!) I then have to go into 2nd then back into 1st and try again. it's never done it twice in a row...
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I took the "outer boot" off as suggested to see if cutting the "inner boot" would help. I just don't see how cutting the boot would help anything in this situation. I have a coil spacer lift and what I'm thinking is that it's thrown the linkage off just a bit, so it feels like its going into gear, but probably not fully engaged. Holding the stick in place corrects this issue for me. It's only when I take my hand off (and only sometimes) when it pops out.
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I had major trouble shifting into 1st
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:52 PM   #22
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Did you ever find out what was wrong? My '09 Wrangler is doing it now with only 26000 miles on it. It is very violent so I just quite using first.
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What about the plastic nub on the end of the shifter? Has anyone heard of it causing issues?
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Old 12-27-2013, 09:40 AM   #24
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tranny popping out of gear

My 1964 M38A1 would pop out of third gear. It had a bad "poppit ball" in the shift tower which held the shifter in gear. Do later trannies have this part? It was just a ball bearing held in place by a spring. Really easy to get to to replace.
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Old 12-27-2013, 10:06 AM   #25
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As a DD, I never have it in 1st long enough to take my hand off the shifter
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Old 12-27-2013, 10:28 AM   #26
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Mine does this when it's cold out. Like below 30 degrees. I have a hell of a time getting into reverse. I think that's more of an issue with the fluid being thick from being cold.

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