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Old 09-24-2011, 04:30 PM   #1
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1st time buyer advice for used jeep. Good for Daily driver mpg? What to look for?

I am interested in buying a TJ jeep and have a budget of $7500. I'd like to make an informed decision however, because I want my next car to be something I'll hold on to for quite some time.

Not too familiar with jeeps so I need advice on the TJ models since these are the ones that kind of fit in my budget.

Firstly, would you recommend a jeep as a primary car and daily driver for a lot of on road use and maybe some weekend dirt use? I hear gas is bad and I know someone that actually got ride of their jeep because gas mileage was very bad. I didn't think they would be that bad. He had a newer model jeep however, 2010 I think.

I thought to myself, ok, so I'll get a 4cylinder. But after looking at the mpg figures it's like the 4 cylinder engine doesn't seem to help with increasing mpg at all, so what's the point? Can the 4 cyinder be good enough to hanle light off roading?

Seriously, for commuting and road trips would a 4 cyclinder really provide better mileage? How much more to the tank would I expect?

What year is the best model? Is there a certain year with less problems...are there problematic years with parts recalls, etc. that I should be aware of?

Would you consider jeeps pretty easy to maintain yourself? I've done simple things on other cars, like change plugs, wires, change distributor, fuel filter, fuel sending unit, radiator, shocks, etc. Would you say jeeps are pretty easy to maintain to work on yourself? I can pretty much do anything with a manual. Are parts easy to come by in auto parts stores like kragen, autozone, etc.?

Are there certain issues that are known to be problems with jeeps that I should look for. What major service on jeeps should I be most concerned about. Which parts are most likely to fail and could be very costly.

I'm thinking to avoid highly modified jeeps. I really want something all stock. I like the stock height of a jeep, and how the stock ones look as well.

What should $7500 realistically get me considering gas prices, inflation, and the recession. Prices seem high on jeeps so I think demand is still high for jeeps in California perhaps.

Obviously I should do my research, but I'm sure people here would know things that I wouldn't know by just doing google searches.

Anyways thanks for your help. I will take all advice seriously.

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Don't expect good MPG in a TJ even if it is totally stock. Mine is a 100 Mile DD, stock w.30x9.5's, and if I stay under 65 I may get 19 mpg all hwy. AC on is another story but I want to drive a wrangler and accept the high monthly gas costs. AND there is absolutely nothing sold in the market place to increase MPG and if you believe them I then told you so.

Buy it for the fun of it if you can afford the gas and never look back. BTW my wife hates them but it's mine and not hers. I do wear the pants once in a while LOL

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Don't expect good MPG in a TJ even if it is totally stock. Mine is a 100 Mile DD, stock w.30x9.5's, and if I stay under 65 I may get 19 mpg all hwy. AC on is another story but I want to drive a wrangler and accept the high monthly gas costs. AND there is absolutely nothing sold in the market place to increase MPG and if you believe them I then told you so.

Buy it for the fun of it if you can afford the gas and never look back. BTW my wife hates them but it's mine and not hers. I do wear the pants once in a while LOL
where can i buy a pair of these pants? lol hahaha...I just bought my first jeep a few days ago, i mostly was told to look real good at the frame and the floor boards for rot/rust.
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Don't expect good MPG in a TJ even if it is totally stock. Mine is a 100 Mile DD, stock w.30x9.5's, and if I stay under 65 I may get 19 mpg all hwy. AC on is another story but I want to drive a wrangler and accept the high monthly gas costs. AND there is absolutely nothing sold in the market place to increase MPG and if you believe them I then told you so.

Buy it for the fun of it if you can afford the gas and never look back. BTW my wife hates them but it's mine and not hers. I do wear the pants once in a while LOL
I like the way the stock height looks however which is the main reason I want to stay stock, not mpg.

What about mechanical issues. What should i look for? Pretty easy to maintain a jeep? Not many issues or what?
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where can i buy a pair of these pants? lol hahaha...I just bought my first jeep a few days ago, i mostly was told to look real good at the frame and the floor boards for rot/rust.
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Welcome (in advance) to the family! Any Jeep owner will tell you they have compromises, but there is nothing else like them on the road (or off it). It really is a Jeep thing, and we all understand it.

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Firstly, would you recommend a jeep as a primary car and daily driver for a lot of on road use and maybe some weekend dirt use?
The Wrangler was never really designed to be used as a sole, daily-driven vehicle. Having said that, many people choose to do so anyway. While the YJ was a definite improvement in comfort over the older CJ, the TJ is a quantum leap better than the YJ thanks primarily to its coil suspension, good ergonomics, highly functional climate control, etc. I think the TJ was the first Jeep that could truly function as an only vehicle.

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I thought to myself, ok, so I'll get a 4cylinder. But after looking at the mpg figures it's like the 4 cylinder engine doesn't seem to help with increasing mpg at all, so what's the point?
My 1998 4.0L 5-speed averages 17.0-17.5 mpg in my daily use. My former 1997 2.5L 5-speed averaged 18.75-19.25 mpg in the same use. In both cases, this is with stock gearing, on a 2" lift and 31" Goodyear MT/R tires, and almost never using the A/C. Also note: this was on 100% pure gasoline. Now that I am forced to use E10 (10% ethanol), my 4.0L mileage has dropped to 16.0-16.5 mpg in the same use. When driving normally, there is an economy benefit to the 2.5L engine... but it isn't very large. Only you can decide if it justifies buying a four banger.

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Can the 4 cyinder be good enough to handle light off roading?
YES!!! The 2.5L really comes into its own on dirt, in rocks, etc. It has slightly more aggressive gearing, plus it weighs 200 pounds less than a comparable 4.0L model. About the only time the 2.5L is a poor choice off road is for mud bogging--you need all the horsepower you can get for that.

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What year is the best model? Is there a certain year with less problems...are there problematic years with parts recalls, etc. that I should be aware of?
As a general rule, a TJ owner will tell you the single best model year is the year of the Wrangler they own. In all honesty, all TJs are pretty durable. I would advise you to buy the cleanest, nicest one you can find that fits your budget--condition will be much more important than the model year.

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Would you consider jeeps pretty easy to maintain yourself? Are parts easy to come by in auto parts stores like kragen, autozone, etc.?
Yes and yes. An untrained chimpanzee can perform most TJ repairs, and parts are common anywhere. TJs are pretty cheap to keep on the road for a long time.

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Are there certain issues that are known to be problems with jeeps that I should look for.
Yes--fanatical Jeep owners. Owners of the 2.5L will tell you how their engine is perfectly sufficient in day-to-day use. Owners of the 4.0L will tell you how the 2.5L doesn't even have enough power to back out of your driveway. Owners of the 5-speed models will tell you how any Wrangler with only two pedals isn't a "real" Jeep. Owners of the automatic models will tell you how superior they are at rock crawling and other highly technical off roading. Biased information is perhaps the biggest issue you'll have to watch out for.

As for mechanical issues, the few that exist tend to be easy to remedy. I wouldn't worry too much about them.

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What major service on jeeps should I be most concerned about. Which parts are most likely to fail and could be very costly.
Just the usual 4WD-type stuff. Differential services, trans fluid and transfer case fluid changes, routine oil and coolant changes, etc.

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I'm thinking to avoid highly modified jeeps. I really want something all stock.
This is wise. For your intended use, a 100% stock Wrangler will give you the most ride comfort, the best fuel economy, and the quietest ride. If you're going to drive one daily, stock is totally the way to go.

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What should $7500 realistically get me considering gas prices, inflation, and the recession.
That price should get you into a decent early 4.0L model (likely to have over 100,000 miles), or a 2.5L model which is slightly newer and/or has fewer miles. If you're willing to do a little work, it might score you even better than that.

Example: one year ago I bought my 1998 Sport 4.0L 5-speed. The tires were bald, it needed a new soft top and it had a goofy front bumper on it... but it was not lifted, wasn't rusty, the A/C was cold, it came with two sets of doors and had only 82,000 miles. I got it for $6500.

Spend a lot of time looking. Get to know TJs and what to look for. Decide which top and transmission you want. Have your money ready to go so that when you find one you really like you can jump on it.

I hope all this helps.
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If you leave it stock and don't come over to the *dark side*.

Start wanting bigger tires,new front and rear bumpers,rock rails..etc.
Which will lead you into Just Empty Every Pocket.

It should do okay in the mileage department,but for short commutes.
Gas ain't too good
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Welcome (in advance) to the family! Any Jeep owner will tell you they have compromises, but there is nothing else like them on the road (or off it). It really is a Jeep thing, and we all understand it.



The Wrangler was never really designed to be used as a sole, daily-driven vehicle. Having said that, many people choose to do so anyway. While the YJ was a definite improvement in comfort over the older CJ, the TJ is a quantum leap better than the YJ thanks primarily to its coil suspension, good ergonomics, highly functional climate control, etc. I think the TJ was the first Jeep that could truly function as an only vehicle.



My 1998 4.0L 5-speed averages 17.0-17.5 mpg in my daily use. My former 1997 2.5L 5-speed averaged 18.75-19.25 mpg in the same use. In both cases, this is with stock gearing, on a 2" lift and 31" Goodyear MT/R tires, and almost never using the A/C. Also note: this was on 100% pure gasoline. Now that I am forced to use E10 (10% ethanol), my 4.0L mileage has dropped to 16.0-16.5 mpg in the same use. When driving normally, there is an economy benefit to the 2.5L engine... but it isn't very large. Only you can decide if it justifies buying a four banger.



YES!!! The 2.5L really comes into its own on dirt, in rocks, etc. It has slightly more aggressive gearing, plus it weighs 200 pounds less than a comparable 4.0L model. About the only time the 2.5L is a poor choice off road is for mud bogging--you need all the horsepower you can get for that.



As a general rule, a TJ owner will tell you the single best model year is the year of the Wrangler they own. In all honesty, all TJs are pretty durable. I would advise you to buy the cleanest, nicest one you can find that fits your budget--condition will be much more important than the model year.



Yes and yes. An untrained chimpanzee can perform most TJ repairs, and parts are common anywhere. TJs are pretty cheap to keep on the road for a long time.



Yes--fanatical Jeep owners. Owners of the 2.5L will tell you how their engine is perfectly sufficient in day-to-day use. Owners of the 4.0L will tell you how the 2.5L doesn't even have enough power to back out of your driveway. Owners of the 5-speed models will tell you how any Wrangler with only two pedals isn't a "real" Jeep. Owners of the automatic models will tell you how superior they are at rock crawling and other highly technical off roading. Biased information is perhaps the biggest issue you'll have to watch out for.

As for mechanical issues, the few that exist tend to be easy to remedy. I wouldn't worry too much about them.



Just the usual 4WD-type stuff. Differential services, trans fluid and transfer case fluid changes, routine oil and coolant changes, etc.



This is wise. For your intended use, a 100% stock Wrangler will give you the most ride comfort, the best fuel economy, and the quietest ride. If you're going to drive one daily, stock is totally the way to go.



That price should get you into a decent early 4.0L model (likely to have over 100,000 miles), or a 2.5L model which is slightly newer and/or has fewer miles. If you're willing to do a little work, it might score you even better than that.

Example: one year ago I bought my 1998 Sport 4.0L 5-speed. The tires were bald, it needed a new soft top and it had a goofy front bumper on it... but it was not lifted, wasn't rusty, the A/C was cold, it came with two sets of doors and had only 82,000 miles. I got it for $6500.

Spend a lot of time looking. Get to know TJs and what to look for. Decide which top and transmission you want. Have your money ready to go so that when you find one you really like you can jump on it.

I hope all this helps.
Wow you got a great deal. Great post, this was very informative and has narrowed my decision enormousely. I"m definitely set on getting the 2.5L four cylinder model that's for sure, and I want it to be completely stock.I really don't need more power and I could see myself benefiting a little from a couple of miles per gallon that's for sure...even if it is only 40-50 miles to a tank. Gas prices don't seem to be getting lower if you know what i mean.

Definitely getting a TJ since it offers a more comfortable ride than it's predecessor.

I'd like to get a four cylinder and make it a hybrid using fuel cells down the road maybe if gas prices go insane like $5 a gallon.

I'm hoping to get a TJ with less than 100k miles around $7500 or less. I'm looking at 1997 to 1999 models. I will now avoid the YJ altogether. I want the ride to be comfortable...I'm assuming the CJ used leaf springs then.

I've definitely narrowed my choice down thanks to your response. I've narrowed it down to a 1997-1999 2.5L 4 cylinder jeep with 120k miles or less. Needs to have a manual transmission, and a hardtop. I just like the feel of a manual transmission myself. You can actually get slightly better mileage with a manual depending on how you drive iMO.
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All jeeps are 4wd correct?
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If you leave it stock and don't come over to the *dark side*.

Start wanting bigger tires,new front and rear bumpers,rock rails..etc.
Which will lead you into Just Empty Every Pocket.

It should do okay in the mileage department,but for short commutes.
Gas ain't too good
Highway commutes

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Well I hope to be soon. Thanks for the welcome all. I'm hoping to find a good jeep but it's slim pickings I think at my budget I'm starting to find out. Just got to have patience however. Jeep guys wave, I always thought that was a corvette thing? I'd be sure to just gotta find me some wheels first.
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Well I hope to be soon. Thanks for the welcome all. I'm hoping to find a good jeep but it's slim pickings I think at my budget I'm starting to find out. Just got to have patience however. Jeep guys wave, I always thought that was a corvette thing? I'd be sure to just gotta find me some wheels first.
Don't feel bad if they don't wave back, happen to me a couple of times, but it's mostly people with completely stock jeeps, not saying they don't wave, just not as much as people with mods done. When you do get a wave though, it's a good feeling
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I'm definitely set on getting the 2.5L four cylinder model that's for sure, and I want it to be completely stock.
This is definitely the best move if you're trying to maximize your fuel economy (especially the part about it being stock). And while I adore a soft top and personally loathe hard tops, for commuting convenience I think the hard top would make you happier--I suggest you buy a Jeep that has one.

In case you want both tops, here is a tip: it costs less money to add a soft top to a hard top Jeep than it does to add a hard top to a soft top Jeep.

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I'm hoping to get a TJ with less than 100k miles around $7500 or less. I'm looking at 1997 to 1999 models.
You won't want to hear this, but back in February of this year I sold my 1997 Wrangler SE for $4800. It had a new soft top, a 2" budget boost lift, the same bald 31" tires that were on my current Jeep when I bought it (I simply swapped the set of wheels/tires) and only 93,000 miles. I am 100% certain you can find a clean, stock Wrangler SE for your budgeted price.

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I'm assuming the CJ used leaf springs then.
It did.

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Needs to have a manual transmission, and a hardtop.
I agree completely about the manual transmission. Good call.
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I am a fan of the 4.0 and had them in other vehicles before I bought my TJ. In fact, the 4.0 I've had in my Cherokees is one contributing factor why I bought a TJ. I know people love their 2.5's as well. I just happen to know my way around the 4.0 and it's nice when you know WHAT to look for when things go wrong.

Generally you are going to be just under 20mpg. If you could find a 3.23 or so gear ratio (you can look at the tags on the axles generally) and drive roads with few stops but stays at 55mph (not over) or so, you can get 20mpg or more.

Everything else people have said are correct.

Keep your tires reasonable in size. Rotational mass kills fuel efficiency. Nothing larger than 31s. I have even thought about going down to 30x9.5s. My long time Cherokee has run 235/75R15s for over a decade and does everything just fine, including mild off-roading.

Though I do occasionally get the itch for 33's, but I put it out of my mind the best I can.
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Not all Jeeps are 4wheel drive!!! My 97 has 32-11.50 15's a 4 inch lift with stock 3:07's and I get 19-20 mpg it has a 4.0 with a 5 speed a 10,000# winch on it so don't let everyone tell you that you can't get good milage out of a wrangler! Keep the filters changed proper inflation in the tires and don't try to drive it like a race car and you'll be fine!!!!
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You need to do much more research on the 2.5l before getting one; I have owned one, and it got worse mileage than my '04 4.0l. I know a few others with the 4 bangers, and no one is averaging better gas mileage just because they have the 2.5l. My 4.0 gets me around 22+ MPG, whereas my 2.5l got me anywhere from 15-17 at best, usually not that much (stock of course, worse after it was lifted).

Before getting your heart set on one you need to really drive it; I'm sure you already assume the 4 cylinder will have less power, but I don't think you realize just how much less it will have. It's not a very fun vehicle to drive. I've drive my 2.5l for a year stock, and then almost a year and a half with a 4" lift and 33s. For those two-ish years, I was driving over 130 miles a day between work, school, and everything else, so I had plenty of time behind the wheel. If you want to keep up with traffic, and drive like you would in a normal car, you'll most likely end up mashing the pedal more often than not, resulting in even worse mileage than what I saw.

I made the purchase telling myself it wouldn't be that bad, but after that long with the 4 banger I got tired of not being able to pass anyone, having a hard time maintaining speed on hills, etc... There certainly is nothing wrong with the 2.5l Jeep if you're truly set on getting one, but just keep in mind what I've said. I've tried not to sugar coat anything so it may seem a bit harsh, but I'm certainly not being overly critical. The 2.5l in these is truly that gutless.

Just trying to give you something to think about; if you're purchasing a 2.5l just for the better mileage, my suggestion is not to. After getting the 4.0l for my daily driver, I've been using almost half the amount of gas, simply because the engine doesn't have to work as hard.
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All CJ/YJ/TJ's are 4x4... NOT all JK's are.

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I understand you are looking for a YJ/TJ, just don't want you thinking you found a screaming deal on a JK only to realize too late that it's missing a differential.....
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One more thing: keep asking questions and doing research. People will always be willing to toss out free advice, some of it good/accurate/worthwhile and some not. With lots of feedback from numerous sources, you'll be able to instantly recognize outlandish claims that just don't match what the majority of people have told you... and you'll know to discredit/ignore such bad advice.
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Don't expect good MPG in a TJ even if it is totally stock. Mine is a 100 Mile DD, stock w.30x9.5's, and if I stay under 65 I may get 19 mpg all hwy. AC on is another story but I want to drive a wrangler and accept the high monthly gas costs. AND there is absolutely nothing sold in the market place to increase MPG and if you believe them I then told you so.

Buy it for the fun of it if you can afford the gas and never look back. BTW my wife hates them but it's mine and not hers. I do wear the pants once in a while LOL
After thinking about it, the mileage as a primary car even for the 4 cylinder version is unacceptable. So I'll just plan on getting a jeep down the road as a 2nd car, and get a commuter for now.
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Hey everyone,
New to the forums. I'm on my search for my Jeep. Long story short is I've owned 2 Chrysler LeBaron conv. both of which tops sucked... but I love convertibles.. next thing is I live in the wonderful weather of Minnesota.. not good for a lil cars. lol. We then purchased a 96 Grand Cherokee limited.. loved it, so now I realized for a while now that I've always wanted a Jeep Wrangler! Combining what I need, and love. When I test drove a '95 (YJ) I realized that isn't the model for me, the comfort wasn't really there, so I narrowed it down to a (TJ) because of price range. (JK) still too much. When looking I too was stuck on purchasing a 4cyl vs V6.. I decided that either would suffice since it isn't much difference for mpg, (yep I'm sure it adds up tho) what I'm set on.. hard top/ manual. The only problem I seem to be facing is due to my location... not many wranglers are for sale unless I drive a 150mile plus radius.... so I'm here to ask.. I found one, plan on looking at it on Tuesday... it's looks sweet, hope it drives as sweet lol. my question is.. is it reasonable?
1998 Wrangler 4.0L 6cly 5spd Runs and Drives Great! Almost new 30/9.50 tires. 183xxx miles. They are asking 4250, have a pic of it in my profile.
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Old 10-16-2011, 07:22 PM   #21
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What part of MN are you in?

Even with those miles, that price seems very low. So low, that I am suspicious. Is it a rebuilt title? The market in mn is pretty strong for wranglers. I would expect price to be more like 6k or higher, but hard to say without knowing more.

With that many miles, I would definately have the compression checked. Look got rust! Also find out if and when shocks, ac, heater core, radiator, and tranny rebuilt if at all. Also, find out if motor was ever rebuilt.
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Old 10-16-2011, 07:32 PM   #22
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x2 on what WaterDR said. Double check everything; that does seem a bit low (which may be a good thing) so I'd be very thorough. I got mine for much less than it's worth though, so you may have just found a great deal.

And as for MPG, now that I've got more time behind the wheel of my '04 4.0l, I'm even more convinced the 4cylinder isn't worth it. After I changed the spark plugs, I consistently get 22+ MPG with the 6 cylinder, which is much better than I ever got with the 4 banger.

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Old 10-16-2011, 07:41 PM   #23
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I would run from a 4 cyl. The straight six is a much more reliable motor and has much better resale. The 4 cyl is simply not highway worthy IMO. It will hit speeds, but on hills, forget it. It works it's butt off all the time and has no extra capacity. Just my two cents.
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I would run from a 4 cyl.
x2; bought one once and thought I could live with it, but now that I've experienced just how nice it is with the 4.0 I'll never go back.
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Old 10-16-2011, 08:18 PM   #25
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You can find a good deal on a TJ if you keep looking. If there is one with a lower price, be suspicious of problems. Test drive as many as you find, especially comparing the 2.5 to a 4.0. I tested a 4 banger and it barely had enough power to make it up the driveway of the seller.
I live in the US Virgin Islands where it seems 1 out of every 4 vehicles is a Wrangler. They hold value like no other vehicle I've seen, but a good deal can be found if you are patient. I bought an '06 4.0 X with 45k on the odo for $8,300. It's in great shape for an Island car and the majority of others comparable were asking $10k +.
Good luck and welcome to the Wrangler Family!
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Old 10-17-2011, 01:45 AM   #26
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Thank you all for the responses. Well just as an example there is a 1997 similar distance, with 200k plus, and they are asking 5k. It's got some extra accessories, but I figure if I get a good deal, I can work on accessories I want as I go. Another good example is again locally there is an 93 for 3500 with 83k, which is low, but the body looks bad, and it has the 4cyl. And not to be too fussy I'm particularly looking at ones with half doors.. because in the lovely state of MN, we legally can't drive it with the doors off... so I stick with the half doors to avoid taking them off..maybe I should move out of state haha. Thank you WaterDR and geiman, I'm thinking a V6 would suffice, and yeah I want to keep looking local, that one seems like a good deal.. but its a good thing its close by, I can drive it to our family mechanic and have family look it over before the big buy.. I was finding some pretty decent deals like with an hour plus drive of me.. only problems is having anyone "mechanic savy" "TRUSTED" look it over... plus getting someone to carpool me there.. The one complaint I'm getting from is my spouse/bf, he's saying 183k is too high for that price.. he wants me to expect a price range of 3k... because he's comparing his '97 Ford F150 purchase of 146k miles on 3k... how do you compare a truck to a jeep?!?! lol another skeptisim I'm getting is that a wrangler isn't a practical vehicle for a mother of 2.... lol sorry for posting this, just curious if anyone gets this kind of feedback from family and friends. Thing is, i have a '94 ford explorer, '92 Buick Park Avenue Ultra, and we recently purchased an '06 Ford Fusion, so tell me we don't have practical vehicles? lol sorry just venting haha. But yeah I will give you all feed back on the test drive Tuesday, hope its still avail then too.
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I have a few questions to ask right now I own a 99 tj it has the 2.5 in it and I have a 4.0 and the tranny that I picked up how hard would it be to change out or should I leave it the way it is
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Question: why do you think it is illegal to drive with doors off in MN? I live in Hudson Wi and am in mn all the time, my doors are off and stay off from June through last week. As long as you have side mirrors I don't think doors are required.
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I remember in autoclass, a gal had a jeep and had taken off her doors, but now that you mention mirrors, I think that's what she had done.
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If you consider a 4.0L be cautious of the 04-06 ? range due to the oil pump drive assembly commonly referred to on here as the OPDA . Don't quote me on the year range (I'm sure someone can correct me if I'm wrong) but, it is a known problem that sometimes bites with no warning.

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