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Old 10-26-2010, 05:06 PM   #1
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2" budget boost 33's with tube fenders?

How well will the BB hold up to mild trail riding? and is it a bad idea to run 33's with my otherwise stock tj?

Its an auto, 32RH. Dana 35 and 30

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You should be fine with 33's, if you go bigger than that you may want to consider re-gearing.

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You'll be fine. I have the same setup, but also with a 1.25" BL and a 1" MML. It has been going great for about 5 yrs.
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You must have replaced the fenders since the pictures in your profile. If not, 33 inch tires will rub with a 2 inch lift, especially if you disconnect the front sway bar. You also need to get rims with 3.75 to 4 inches of back spacing if the tires are 12.5 inches wide. Also, many say the dana 35 is not a real good choice to run 33 inch tires.
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His D35 might be ok (who knows, some say you can look at em and they'll break) because of the fact he has the 32rh auto. With an open diff and the auto, there is MUCH less stress on the driveline than a manual tranny would produce.
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Go easy on the gas, and you should be fine. I do it with trimmed flares... No amazing flexing going on with mine, but it's fine for what we use it for.
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How well will the BB hold up to mild trail riding? and is it a bad idea to run 33's with my otherwise stock tj?

Its an auto, 32RH. Dana 35 and 30
33s won't clear with just a BB. add 2" bumpstop extensions front and rear (rear is needed anyway) or a 1"BL , and you'll be fine. don't forget you'll need new, longer shocks.
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33s won't clear with just a BB. add 2" bumpstop extensions front and rear (rear is needed anyway) or a 1"BL , and you'll be fine. don't forget you'll need new, longer shocks.
Oh gosh! Don't tell my Jeep that!
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Oh gosh! Don't tell my Jeep that!
Mine either!! I mean, i do have a BL, but PLENTY of clearance if i didnt have it
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Some of us like to live on the edge I guess.... I have no bump stops and factory shocks too.... OMG! Well, actually I have bump stops they just are sitting on a shelf in the garage....
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Some of us like to live on the edge I guess.... I have no bump stops and factory shocks too.... OMG! Well, actually I have bump stops they just are sitting on a shelf in the garage....
thats just terrible advice, especially if you actually flex your jeep or bottom out your jeep ever.

if you have no bumpstops and just a BB, how do you expect to give the rear springs room to compress at full stuff?





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I never said it was advice. I just said that happens to be my set up. I don't rub unless I'm trying to do something crazy. As far as room to compress, I guess maybe my brain doesn't wrap around this whole thing like it should, cause it seems to me that bumpstops give you less room to compress. Actually, my no bumpstops statement is incorrect. I have the factory bumpstops.

Some folks use their Jeeps less aggressively than others, and for those who are not too aggressive, a setup similar to mine is a very cost effective alternative. I try to always mention that my set up does cripple the suspension, and is not the recommended method for fitting 33's on a TJ. But it is a workable option if you realize the limitations.

To say that you can't fit 33's with a 2" lift is just not true. I wouldn't mention that to all the LCOG guys out there..... They will have to change their entire set up.
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I never said it was advice. I just said that happens to be my set up. I don't rub unless I'm trying to do something crazy. As far as room to compress, I guess maybe my brain doesn't wrap around this whole thing like it should, cause it seems to me that bumpstops give you less room to compress. Actually, my no bumpstops statement is incorrect. I have the factory bumpstops.
the factory jounce bumper is rubber (yellow thing), it will fully compress when the spring pad compressed toward the bumpstop cup. its purpose is to slow the impact, so that you don't hear a big bang.

If you fully compress the spring, like when you hit a speed bump or dip going too fast, both tires stuff into the wheelwell. The jounce bumper compresses, your bumpstop cups hits the spring pad, the coils stack on top of each other. The spring must have room to compress, otherwise it will find the room - in other words if the coils are already fully stacked and compress, and its asked to compress more, the coils will slip past each other, bend the heck out of the spring - cause unrepairable spring damage.



^^see how the spring stacked? Spacers actually reduce the amount of space the spring has to compress. thats why you add the bumpstop back in, to regain the compression room (and for the longer shocks).

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Some folks use their Jeeps less aggressively than others, and for those who are not too aggressive, a setup similar to mine is a very cost effective alternative. I try to always mention that my set up does cripple the suspension, and is not the recommended method for fitting 33's on a TJ. But it is a workable option if you realize the limitations.
you can bottom out the front or the rear very easily on the street. speed bumps, big dips, carrying a heavy load in the back (like a few people), towing a trailer, etc. this concern isn't limited to people who hardcore off-road...

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To say that you can't fit 33's with a 2" lift is just not true. I wouldn't mention that to all the LCOG guys out there..... They will have to change their entire set up.
my setup is considered LCOG. I'm running 33s. I'm well aware tire size is not related to lift height. I've seen Rokmen's rig in person, running 40s on 3" of lift.

You can bolt 33s or 35s up on a bone stock TJ, but if you don't address bumpstops, clearance and many other issues, its not going to work. When I give someone advice, its going to be stuff that will work.
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Fair enough. Thanks for straightening me out. Just please don't tell my Jeep that it doesn't work.
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Fair enough. Thanks for straightening me out. Just please don't tell my Jeep that it doesn't work.
the definition of "works" is the question here. what "works"? also, ignorance is bliss, so if you don't know theres a better way to do things, you say something "works", when in fact it doesn't.

Example - some people drive lifted TJ's at 2-3 degrees of caster. they say it works. but if you ever drove a Jeep with less than ~4.5 degrees of caster, you'd be white knuckling it if your used to the stock 7 degrees.

I wouldn't be able to tolerate 3 degrees of caster at all. I didn't like 5 degrees. I run 6.5 degrees now, with a HP D30 & 2.5" of lift. It "works" awesome, drives better with 33s than stock with 30s.

To be fair, you'd never know stock shocks and factory bumpstops weren't ideal on a BB until you broke something due to this fact. then you'd probably think it was something else, like you hit that speed bump too hard...when in fact it was the lack of bumpstop that caused your spring to bend and the shock mount to bust off the axle.

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