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Old 07-16-2011, 01:08 PM   #1
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3 Inch Lift Options

I want to lift my 98 TJ. I mainly use it for trail riding to get to fishing spots, ghost towns and geocaches, and light crawling as necessary. I'm not big into rock crawling, but want to be prepared for what the trail might throw at me.

I don't want to go wild (yet?) and start changing out control arms, drive shafts, etc. Looks like 3-inches would fit the bill. I am willing to give up the ground clearance to drop the TC. I can always raise it back up later and do what I need to do if it becomes a problem.

Looking at running 32's or 33's. I have the D30 and D44 with 3.73s. Maybe a 1 inch body lift if I go with the 33's, though I'm leaning towards the 32's. Like the looks, should give me decent ground clearance for what I use the jeep for and not change the power characteristic too much. I currently have 31's. I want highway manners (as far a Jeeps go anyway) and a comfortable off road ride. Nothing to harsh.

Looking at the 4WD, BDS and Zone 3 inch lifts. Zone is my current favorite on price alone. Seems the guys on here that run the Zone like it. I guess my question is does that all sound plausible and am I overlooking another lift that I might like? Any accessories that make it all work better? Adjustable track bar? Drop Pittman? Brake Lines? ???

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Old 07-16-2011, 02:11 PM   #2
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I got 33s on 3" suspension lift with no body lift and plenty of room.
However gearing is an issue, like you were concerned about.

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Since I live in Western Nevada and travel up and down US 395 a lot just getting to where I would take the jeep off road, how are the 33's at highway speeds? Don't want to give up too much low end, but a little high end wouldn't hurt.
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I have the BDS 3 inch lift and 33s. The ride is really good, probably better than stock. The lifetime warranty is really nice too. I have a lot of clearance with the 3" lift but I might do a 1" BL/MML in the future to bring the t-case skid back up. I have 3.73 gears and I had 31s before the 33s. The only difference I can tell is when you take off. It's just a little more sluggish. IMO, it's not really a big deal.
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Isn't the Zone just a BDS lift without the killer warranty? If so, I guess the question is am I gonna buy the insurance or not.

No opinions on the 4WD.com lift?
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Isn't the Zone just a BDS lift without the killer warranty? If so, I guess the question is am I gonna buy the insurance or not.

No opinions on the 4WD.com lift?
I've heard that but I don't know for sure.
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Zone still has a good warranty. Lifetime defects. I really don't plan to break anything. I think the no fine print from BDS is good for hardcore crawlers, but for the rest of us, how often do you really break a suspension component. I've had lots of 4x4's and done a lot of dumb stuff and I've never broken the suspension.

Even with the upgrades on the Zone lift it's still pretty cheap. Hard to pass that up since it gets great reviews.
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Old 07-16-2011, 09:52 PM   #8
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I have the 3" Zone and I'm satisfied with it. The springs are a bit stiff but flex well. The kit really is a bang for the buck... I did spend the extra cash for an adjustable front trac-bar, I recommend the JKS, I don't have any DW and I didnt have any clearance issues with the bar and the stock D30 diff with the swaybar disconnected. I did run into one sometimes over looked issue, driveshaft vibrations. The 3" kit was closer to 4" for my TJ and it had vibes even with the 3/4" t-case spacers. I ultimately installed a SYE and CV driveshaft, adjustable upper rear CAs and that cured the vibes. My 33s are tall but I have flat front fenders and trimmed rears so clearance at full flex is not s problem. I used the bumpstops that came with the kit but you could use longer ones to avoid tire/fender clearance issues if you go with 33s. I also installed 3/4" spacers in the front to level it out because the weight of my winch would make thr front sag without them.
My stock gears are 3.73 and while I drive roads with lots of hills, the power loss is noticeable but its not intolerable.
So in the end, I paid $415 for the lift kit but spent an extra $1000 on the SYE/DS, trac-bar, upper CAs and JKS discos. The discos and the trac-bar aren't necessary but if you lift it and get vibes, the best way to fix it is with the SYE. Another option would be a 2.5" suspension plus a 1.25" body lift paired with a motor mount lift. That woul clear 32s,33s and if you had vibes, you could drop the t-case with washers and longer bolts.
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OK, what's a JKS and a DW. I know I'll feel stupid for asking once you tell me.
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OK, what's a JKS and a DW. I know I'll feel stupid for asking once you tell me.
Death Wobble. See, I knew I would feel stupid. Still don't know what JKS is.
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JKS is a brand/company.

for the record, I have the zone 3 inch and I beat it up pretty well. it is holding up good, I love the ride. Its basically heaven

I would say you can run 33s if you never disconnect your swaybar. even if you do I doubt you will run into any interference unless your doing something reallll hard.
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OK, what's a JKS and a DW. I know I'll feel stupid for asking once you tell me.
Sorry about that, I abbreviate a lot here like many others and assume everyone knows what it means . GoldenSahara beat me to it. JKS Manufacturing is just the brand name. They make trac-bars, sway bar disconnects, control arms... The list goes on. They are just one company in a sea of aftermarket mfgrs. I have been pleased with their quality over the years so I just stick with them.
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There is another thread about the drive line vibes with this lift right now. Is it the lift or just a hazard of going 3 inches? Kind of has be thinking about going 2 or 2.5 inches instead. I'm not wanting to go nuts right now replacing half the Jeep to get another inch or so. I want springs, not spacers, for the additional travel and potentially better ride, but just not ready to go all out in search of ground clearance.


By the way, thanks for the translations. I see JKS now. I was racking my brain trying figure out which part or mod JKS might be.
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Old 07-17-2011, 03:51 PM   #15
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Looking around I see the 2-inch BDS and the 2-inch OME lifts. Both allow 32's. What i'm thinking now is get the 2 inch lift and run my 31's until they need replacing. They are almost new. When the time comes I can either go higher and do it right if I decide that's where I wanna go, I can replace the 31's with 32's and go on about my life or I can install a 1-inch BL and go for 33's.

If I do this I will need new wheels, since the stock wheels are rubbing and they look...well, stock. Probably some Soft 8's or similar. I like the all black look and the price is right.

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There is another thread about the drive line vibes with this lift right now. Is it the lift or just a hazard of going 3 inches? Kind of has be thinking about going 2 or 2.5 inches instead. I'm not wanting to go nuts right now replacing half the Jeep to get another inch or so. I want springs, not spacers, for the additional travel and potentially better ride, but just not ready to go all out in search of ground clearance.


By the way, thanks for the translations. I see JKS now. I was racking my brain trying figure out which part or mod JKS might be.
It's all relative to the Jeep, not the brand of the lift. GoldenSahara and I have the same lift, mine had vibes immediately after while his has had none related to the lift. It can't really be explained why that is but basically some do some don't. The taller the lift the more susceptible you are to getting vibes. You may reduce the chance with a 2 or 2.5" kit but I've read about others having vibes at 2"s. It's easier to correct them with a smaller lift. If you do decide on 2.5"s, Old Man Emu (often noted as OME) makes a great kit. They are pricey but the ride is excellent. I have the 2.5" on my LJ and I really like it. I run 31s on it but 32s would fit fine, possibly 33s with longer bump stops.
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LOL! You snuck the last question in as I was typing the last reply! OME and BDS are excellent choices. I think you would have a better looking ride with a 2-2.5" kit if you plan on running your current 31s for a while. I didn't drive my TJ with 31s after I lifted it 3"s, it looked silly so I waited for my 33s. I would get new wheels if I were you. The soft 8 is popular, they are steel, something to keep in mind if your concerned about weight. I bought MB 72s in black, they look similar but they are not steel. They are made in China though, don't get me started on that subject...
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Haven't decided on the rims other than I want some. I still can't decide if my Jeep has a two inch lift. Some time I say yes, others I say now. PO said it was a Rancho, but in all the receipt they gave me I only see an invoice for shocks. No lift. If it does it's either not 2 inches or its settled. It's running 31's.

What do you all think? Are those spacers? I've looked at a lot of pictures of 2 inch lifts on 31's and mine looks short, but it's not quite stock either.





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Yep, those are spacers, maybe 1 3/4"-2". Here is a pic of mine when I bought. It had 1 3/4" spacers on it and 31s. I think it looks similar to yours height wise.
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You're rear looks similar, but the front on mine is lower. Maybe it's just my front end isn't spaced a little higher to level it out. Mines got some rake to it, thought is hard to tell in that picture. I dunno.
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Ahhh, you don't have the factory rubber isolator in the front, I missed that earlier. That's not a problem, they can be left in or removed when installing spacers. If it was left in, the factory "rake" would be leveled out, in most cases. The factory front isolator is 3/4" thick, the rear does not have any, only a thin pad. You will need to get a factory set of isolators if you change springs. They are made from dense rubber that basically isolate noise and friction between the spring and the top spring perch.
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I took a couple of pictures to give you a better idea of what I posted. The 1st is the stock set up with the isolator, the 2nd is with the spacer and no isolator (like you have now) and the 3rd is with both. Mine had both and it sat level with a 4.0 and no weight on the front. It did sag a little when I put a winch on the front, 80lbs will do that. Hope this helps some.
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Ah, I see. Sure I can get those easily enough. The rake isn't bad on stock vehicles, but I like the lifted Jeeps level. Solves the mystery of whether or not it's lifted. The front's only really 1 1/2 or 1 1/4 of an inch. That's why it is hard to tell just by looking.

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