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Old 02-19-2013, 01:20 PM   #1
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3" lift 1.25" BL Tube Fenders and 35's

So I have done a lot of reading but I haven't found my exact situation. I know it is recommended to have 4" and 1.25 bl or just 5" of lift to run 35's. Well i currently have a 3" lift and I already put the 35's on as you can see in this picture. I have the smittybilt tube fenders and i think the front is actually ok right now. I tried to flex it to see if it rubs but i couldn't get it high enough. What i did notice is that the back was about a 1/4 inch from rubbing and i wasn't quite flexed 100%. So would adding the 1.25" BL be enough to clear the back? If anyone has a setup similar to this i'd appreciate the help.
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:40 PM   #2
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yes the 1 inch bl will be enough. This is what I will be doing once I wear out the 33's I am running. (and I save the money up for the fenders and tires)

(right now I am 3 inch BDS with a 1 inch body)



<---- avatar pic is just a 3 in with no body lift.

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What is the back rubbing on? The tub or the plastic flare?
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What is the back rubbing on? The tub or the plastic flare?
It was about to rub on the tub which would actually be the plastic in the wheel well. I'm about to install the tub fenders in the rear but that wouldn't actually help. I need to find a good way to fully flex it. Could i just use a jack under one of the front wheels to flex it and check the back?
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3" springs, 1.25" Body Lift, 35's, MCE flat front fenders, and bumpstops extended to prevent rubbing.





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3" springs, 1.25" Body Lift, 35's, MCE flat front fenders, and bumpstops extended to prevent rubbing.





do you know how many inches your bumpstops are by chance?
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do you know how many inches your bumpstops are by chance?
I'm around 4" up front, 3.5" in the rear. But, since everyone's Jeep and set up is a little different that may not be exactly what you need. My rear end has outboarded shocks and I relocated my upper spring perches back to account for the tilt of the axle after my SYE.

The best way to tell what you need, and the way I did it, is to remove springs and cycle the suspension. Kind of a PITA if you are setting bumpstops after it is all together.
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I've got 4" of suspension lift, no body lift. I have flat fenders front and back(with serious trimming in the back) and I can barely get the back to rub with the tire stuffed and the bumpstop touching. Front doesn't rub, and I've had it fully stuffed with the sway bar disconnected.
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I've got 4" of suspension lift, no body lift. I have flat fenders front and back(with serious trimming in the back) and I can barely get the back to rub with the tire stuffed and the bumpstop touching. Front doesn't rub, and I've had it fully stuffed with the sway bar disconnected.
Where and how much trimming did you do? I was thinking about doing the same also. What size bumpstops do you have?
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I tried to flex it to see if it rubs but i couldn't get it high enough.
thats because you're doing it wrong.

support the Jeep from the frame, pull the springs out and push the axle to full bump, full droop and full flex with floor jacks....with and without the tires mounted. Figure out how much bumpstop extension you need and where the axle needs to be positioned, then report back.
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thats because you're doing it wrong.

support the Jeep from the frame, pull the springs out and push the axle to full bump, full droop and full flex with floor jacks....with and without the tires mounted. Figure out how much bumpstop extension you need and where the axle needs to be positioned, then report back.
This might be a stupid question but I need a tool to compress the springs to remove them right? Lifting it up by the frame wont be enough to remove the springs with a somehow compressing them i'm assuming....
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This might be a stupid question but I need a tool to compress the springs to remove them right? Lifting it up by the frame wont be enough to remove the springs with a somehow compressing them i'm assuming....
Negative, and not a stupid question at all. One axle at a time, support the frame on jack stands, removing sway bar links, and lower shock mounts. Then use your jack to push up on one side of axle, and let the other side droop down. You will be able to yank out the springs with no compressor. Having a friend helps to push and pull, but the last time I had my springs out I did it by myself.




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Negative, and not a stupid question at all. One axle at a time, support the frame on jack stands, removing sway bar links, and lower shock mounts. Then use your jack to push up on one side of axle, and let the other side droop down. You will be able to yank out the springs with no compressor. Having a friend helps to push and pull, but the last time I had my springs out I did it by myself.




That's good to know, thank you!
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This might be a stupid question but I need a tool to compress the springs to remove them right? Lifting it up by the frame wont be enough to remove the springs with a somehow compressing them i'm assuming....
I use spring compressors. They're free to rent from most auto parts stores. I bought 2 sets because I wanted them in my tool box for the amount of suspension work I do, and they're not all that expensive.

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Where and how much trimming did you do? I was thinking about doing the same also. What size bumpstops do you have?
Don't know on the bumpstops right now as I'm not home and the p.o. did it. However, I had to trim a good amount off of the back of the wheel well, where the tire was rubbing.
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Like Dave said everyones jeep is a bit different. I have 4 inch lift, stock bumps, and trimmed flares. I did a small bit of Sawzall work on the little part of the pinch seam that sticks out in the rear wheel well. Now with 1.25 spacers on the stock wheels It works without rubbing. I'm disabled and 4 inches is my limit to get in the jeep without some sort of step. So keeping it low was important.
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I use spring compressors. They're free to rent from most auto parts stores. I bought 2 sets because I wanted them in my tool box for the amount of suspension work I do, and they're not all that expensive.

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That's good to know, i was assuming they were really expensive. Thanks.
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Don't know on the bumpstops right now as I'm not home and the p.o. did it. However, I had to trim a good amount off of the back of the wheel well, where the tire was rubbing.
Yeah before i put my rear tube/flat fenders on i'm thinking about doing a little trimming in the rear.
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Like Dave said everyones jeep is a bit different. I have 4 inch lift, stock bumps, and trimmed flares. I did a small bit of Sawzall work on the little part of the pinch seam that sticks out in the rear wheel well. Now with 1.25 spacers on the stock wheels It works without rubbing. I'm disabled and 4 inches is my limit to get in the jeep without some sort of step. So keeping it low was important.
I should just go to a 4" or really 5" lift but money's a little tight and i know there is move involved once you hit 4"+. I think i'll add the 1.25" BL, do a little trimming, and then get the correct bumpstops installed after that.

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