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Old 10-27-2010, 01:21 AM   #1
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31" Snow and off road tire recomendations ?

I tried to search this - came up w nada - so I started a thread. If this has been covered please direct me. Otherwise...

I just picked up my 97 TJ. I'm looking forward to "playing" in the snow and doing some light off roading. Off roading will be light at first, and probably not involve rock crawling.

I intend to stay stock height suspension, and keep 30-31" tires.

I currently have 245/75/16 BF Goodrich All - Terrain T/As. I have read mixed reviews of them here.

I want to swap wheels anyway, so should I keep the T/As and get some other 16x8s or sell the wheel/tire combo and start over?

My priorities are:
1-decent ride and reasonable noise
2-snow traction
3-off road traction

Getting 100,000 miles on them is NOT a priority. I have learned from the road race world that tires are everything. So I don't mind replacing them every year or two. Plus, I doubt I will put more than 5k miles on the TJ per year.

What do you guys think?

Should I go to 31x10.50x15s on 15x8s (I'm reading 4" backspace)?

Should I stay w 245/75/16 (265/70/16s or another 16")?

What tires work great in snow, dirt, mud, and are not a total pain on the street?

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BFG all terrain. sounds like the perfect tire for you. not the cheapest but they will last a long time and have great traction in the snow and do very well in most light offroad situations

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Old 10-27-2010, 01:30 AM   #3
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GY Duratracs. They ride great on all surfaces you are asking about. They are also great on wet pavement.
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I have the BFG A/T KO's...they're a decent tire, but I've noticed at higher speeds they're pretty good at hydroplaning, especially on the interstate. Traction isn't bad, but I wouldn't say they're the best. They're decent in just about all conditions...just not the GREATEST. However, they do wear extremely well.

I've been reading the reviews on the Duratracs and they seem to have great reviews in snow, rain, off-road, etc.

However, one question for someone who's been running em...what's the expected tread life with the Duratracs when rotated every 5000 miles or so?
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Old 10-27-2010, 01:45 AM   #5
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The BFG All Terrians are nearly new - like 800 miles. They are a decent tire, I have them on my 2500HD. So keeping them might be wise.

I have 2 issues w them:
1- I want new rims anyway, so going to to another size would be easy now

2-"A jack of all trades is master of NONE"

I don't care so much about wear, so I'm thinking a more aggressive tire would be in order. I don't want to lift my Jeep, so solid performing 31" tires are my intended route of performance.
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Old 10-27-2010, 02:13 AM   #6
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Wheels: If I wee you I would go with the 15"x8" rims mostly because it is the norm, and a most off road tires will fit on it.

Tires: For the conditions you described I would say get duratracs, but if you want a MT look at ones with a lot of sipping to help in snow and wet pavement.
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I haven't had them long enough for snow, but my Duratracs do great in the rain! Very smooth ride with a low hum (almost not noticeable).
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Old 10-27-2010, 08:24 AM   #8
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The Falken Wildpeak A/T are a low price tire with very low road noise.
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Old 10-27-2010, 08:33 AM   #9
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On second full set BFG ATs (5 tires) with regular rotation. Starting to think about new and for the money and similar driving my 15 inch wheels work fine there are other tires out there but if you want it to do everything BFG for the money. Looked at Toyos but a little more money told wear almost the same. By the guy at tire store.

Will probably get the 31 BFG's again.
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Old 10-27-2010, 09:38 AM   #10
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the guys at discount tire (and they are great w/ customer service) told me that I could count on ~35k miles on Duratracs if properly maintained. More if i took it easy or if I wasn't doing total asphalt/concrete driving.

I drive real hard, so I'll be happy w/30k.

As far as the BFGs; I've had them on other vehicles and for the most part i liked their performance (biggest exception being heavy rain - hydroplane city!) Also loud hums at highway speeds were the norm, and those trucks had a helluva lot more insulation than a jeep.
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Old 10-27-2010, 10:02 AM   #11
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I'm going today to look at the pricing on GY Duratracs...because I'm nearing the "ok for summer but not for winter" tread zone on my (get ready!) GY MTRs 33 x 12.5 - I've put 75K miles on 'em since December of 2005. I sure got a great set! They were amazing in the snow.

In 2005 I had an 11 mile daily commute. Now, I do 78 miles daily - all 70mph highway. I'm going to downsize this time & am eyeing 31" x 10.5 on 15x8 wheels ...

Thank you all for the good read so far!
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I had BFG All terrains, I now have Duratracs.

BFG's quality has gone down hill in recent years. i had two sets of BFG's - both sets had siping issues...the mold didn't carry all the way through the tread, had to warranty a two tires at 10k-15k miles. i've got a set of 31" BFG's in the garage now that are completely bald in the center peanuts because the siping didn't reach the bottom of the tread. they have about 10k miles left in them.

Get the Duratrac's. much better tire.
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Old 10-27-2010, 10:18 AM   #13
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Get the Duratrac's. much better tire.
Yay! Mr. Unlimited and I agree on something

Duratracs rock! Tread Lightly - Home has $100 rebate available on them through Nov. I think. Check for sure. And the rebate can be used in conjunction with all other rebates.
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What tire is good for snow depends on how deep the snow is. For slick roads or just an inch or two of snow, you don't need a real aggressive tread pattern but you do want the tire to have a lot of sipes. Sipes are those little slits cut into the tread surface that give the tire thousands of additional biting edges to improve traction. Kerfs, which are similar to sipes but are molded into the tire instead of being cut, are good too but are not quite as effective as sipes are. But either, in large quantities on the tread are needed for effective street traction on icy or snow-covered streets when there is no more than a couple inches of snow.

For deeper snow, you want an aggressive offroad pattern like a Mud Terrain style tire offers.

If you want the best of both worlds, you can buy a good Mud Terrain tire like BFG's newer Mud Terrain KM2 and have sipes added by a tire shop. Many, but not all, tire shops offer siping services that will run $10-15 per tire. I've had several sets of MT style tires siped like that and the added sipes help in all conditions, onroad and offroad. The sipes even help in dry rock crawling conditions. Sipes especially help with braking on the street so you really want your tires to be well siped in snow conditions. Adding siping to a tire can actually reduce/improve tire wear too as it helps a tire to run cooler. If you have your Mud Terrain tires siped, be sure to instruct the guy actually doing the siping to only sipe the inner tread blocks, leaving the outer tread blocks unsiped for better strength if you like to play on the rocks.

Here's what siping looks like...



Discount Tire has a nice writeup on tire sipes at Tire Siping - Discount Tire
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How about the older bfg mud terrains Jerry, the original km are those good in the snow?
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The original KM is good in deep snow, not so much on snow-covered streets. Especially since the older KM had no sipes or kerfs in its tread pattern at all. The newer KM2 doesn't have much in that area either but it at least has a kerf cut across the treads every so often.
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It's interesting to me how one person can absolutely love a certain brand or style of tire while the next person can absolutely hate it. Or one person will tell you how good it is in the rain while the next person will tell you how worthless it is in the rain. All of this leads me to believe that a lot of how you feel about a tire depends on what kind of vehicle you have, what modifications have been made to said vehicle, where the vehicle is driven and how the vehicle is driven.

So for me to pick out the right tire for you can be difficult.

I have two different vehicles, an '03 Wrangler and an '07 Ford Sport Trac. Both vehicles have BFGoodrich AT's on them and I couldn't be happier with them.

The Wrangler has 31X10.50-15 mounted on stock canyon wheels with no lift and I gotta say, the vehicle performs fine both on-road and off-road. Will they work as well for you? Without knowing all the particulars, I don't know. But, all things considered, you could do a whole hell of a lot worse than BFG AT's.
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BFG's AT is fine on snow or ice covered streets. Where it isn't a good choice is offroad in deep snow where it packs with snow and turns into a slick.
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My 285 75 16 DuraTracs dug right through the 6" puddles we had yesterday without even a flinch. They took us through the mud bogs without hesitation. The only thing they didn't do was take us up a 40+° incline hill that was wet, slippery clay (almost like grease).

I can't wait for the snow!

And these tires are so quiet I can not hear them when the windows are down or top is off.
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I've been looking for a set of tires as well, with your same requirements. Either going with the gy silentarmor or the duratracs. Most likely the duratracs because I like the look :P
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Old 10-30-2010, 07:08 PM   #21
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Thanks for the advice everyone!

I signed up for tread lightly, and ordered my 31x10.50x15 Goodyear Dura Tracs on black steel (soft-8 look-a-likes) from DTD today.
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...w=8&vid=006149
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...sw=false&cs=31

Anyone want some nearly new 16x8 Pro-Comps and 245/75/16 BFG A/Ts? I'll be posting them FS shortly.

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