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Old 07-15-2010, 12:26 PM   #1
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31" tires on my 04 TJ, Third break light clearance

Putting a 31 10.5 15 on my spare STOCK rim for my spare tire. My question is.......... will the ugly STOCK 3rd break light be in the way? Will it clear the new tire or do I have to take it (3rd break light) off?

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do you even have to have that light, i haven't had one on any of my jeeps but then they wern't an an original part either, me thinks go with out

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Old 07-15-2010, 12:53 PM   #3
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I say it will fit.
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Old 07-15-2010, 12:57 PM   #4
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It'll fit. Anything over a 32" and you'll have to remove it or extend it with some rubber spacers or something.
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:06 PM   #5
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Cool, so I've got clearance Clarence.

Preciate it all!!!
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Old 07-15-2010, 03:09 PM   #6
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Do you even need the 3rd brake light? I think it's ugly anyway.
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I say put it on and if it fits. woot! if not ehh, take that sucker off
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Yeah, just take it off.... I did!
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I recently put mine back on because I finally figured out why my light wasn't working. So I had to hook it up to get satisfaction out of fixing it.
But that is starting to wear off so I may remove it again.
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I have 31 inch tires and the light was not going to clear easily. Also, I had to cut the rubber hockey pucks the tires sits up against on the tail gate so the lugs would go through enough to get the nuts on. I removed the entire 3rd light. I used a sawzall to cut the rubber pucks.
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I have 31 inch tires and the light was not going to clear easily. Also, I had to cut the rubber hockey pucks the tires sits up against on the tail gate so the lugs would go through enough to get the nuts on. I removed the entire 3rd light. I used a sawzall to cut the rubber pucks.
So you just cut the pucks down a little or you cut them off completely?

I think I'm just gonna remove the light and forget it. Just HATE giving the Police any other reason to stop me.
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31x10.5 x5.5 offset, fits perfect. Didn't have to cut anything. Need the third to get tag here.
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Yes the third brake like is require, if your jeep was manufactured with it. I can find it right know but I know there was a thread on here that talked about that before and it had a link to the law stating such.
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Not only may it be required but it is an effective safety device. I'm pretty sure this is in the public domain, NHTSA report, so I think linking it is ok.
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it is an effective safety device. .
Agreed!! I'd much rather keep it but not sure if it's worth the hassle. I will be putting a cover over the spare sooooooo the aftermarket spare tire bolt hole mods wont work for me.

I guess I'll just have to use my Polish ingenuity and come up with an effective way to raise the stock light to come up just above the tire. I am actually going to get the spare mounted today so the trip home may be with the spare in the back and not on the mount.
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Something I've been toying with is to get rid of the stock light and get a led one and cut a hold in the hard top above the back window and plug it in there.
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Mine fits fine.Plenty of room.
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I have a 33x12.5 on the gate and the stock third light could still be seen over the tire without alteration. I have since (for astetics) removed it and put one in the center of the spare.
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Agreed!! I'd much rather keep it but not sure if it's worth the hassle. I will be putting a cover over the spare sooooooo the aftermarket spare tire bolt hole mods wont work for me.

I guess I'll just have to use my Polish ingenuity and come up with an effective way to raise the stock light to come up just above the tire. I am actually going to get the spare mounted today so the trip home may be with the spare in the back and not on the mount.
The easiest way I've seen to raise it is to use some pvc pipe as spacers. Just cut however many lengths you need to stand it up where you want it....
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I don't it fits as easily as everyone is saying. I took out the 4 bolts that hold it onto the spare tire carrier and added a few stainless steel washers and raised it up a approx. 1/2 an inch. I think you'll also need to bring out the spare tire carrier away from the tail gate. Keep it on.
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The Rubicon comes with a 31" spare tire and it uses the same 3rd brake light so it should fit fine. For me, I'd much rather have the 3rd brake light in place and fully operational. My new '04 Rubicon doesn't have one but I plan to weld a little spot on my spare tire carrier so I can mount one.

With all the inattentive drivers out there texting, talking on their cellphones, driving drunk, driving distracted, etc., I figure I need all the help I can get. I know I personally notice the 3rd brakelight lighting up before I notice the lower tail lights.
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Picked up my spare, It worked and cleared the break light but just barely. HOWEVER I do have to cut the rubber bump stops down to about half the original size. Just fits to way to snug when I close the door.

Thanks for all of your help guys.!!!!
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So you just cut the pucks down a little or you cut them off completely?

I think I'm just gonna remove the light and forget it. Just HATE giving the Police any other reason to stop me.
I cut the pucks in half so the bolts would go through the rim holes farther.
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put a cupple of washers inbetween the light mount and the tire holder base. i think 3 will do but may take four
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put a cupple of washers inbetween the light mount and the tire holder base. i think 3 will do but may take four
Now you have me thinking that maybe adding some washers behind the 3 lug nut holes for the lug nuts MIGHT eliminate the need to cut the pucks/bumpers. Not sure how much would left on the threads for the lug bolts.

Any thoughts on this anyone????
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My tires are 30x9.50 and I noticed the hockey pucks are pushing into the sidewall of my spare. I may have to cut down the pucks too, or just wait a year until I get my swing out carrier.
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I saw a post long ago about placing an LED light in the hub hole of a spare tire-looks really cool,and totally eliminates the factory brake light!
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I just added a 31x10.5x15 spare MT onto mine and it fits but just barely. I had to start one of the lugnuts and get it tightened down before I could even start the other ones. This tire is on my original steelies so I am not sure of the offset. Personally I cant stand the look of the third brake light but I understand the safety issue so I am leaving mine in place.
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After giving my spare a second look, cutting down the rubber stops would only complicate things for me. My spare is already snug against the 3rd brake light riser. My only option is to get a new bumper/carrier from Tuff Design
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I'd take it off. If you get pulled over make an excuse that working on it. I doubt you will get pulled over for it, but what do I know. I live in Indiana, where i dont even need fender flares.

Mines gone, looks much better, and if they hit me well its their fault and they must be blind if they cant see my 44 LED 4" LED's.

But to each his own. I just hate all the stuff thats plastic on the outside.

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