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Old 12-18-2012, 07:07 AM   #1
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Can you run 33s with just a 2" spring lift?

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Old 12-18-2012, 08:21 AM   #2
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On the street, yes but for full articulation off road, you need about 4" of lift (4" spring lift or 2.5 spring lift + 1.5 body lift)

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Old 12-18-2012, 09:39 AM   #3
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You can get a BL and MML to get a little more clearance.
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:09 PM   #4
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You can get a BL and MML to get a little more clearance.
You probably didn't mean to include a MML in that recommendation for more tire clearance.

For 33" tires, the bare minimum additional clearance I'd want for the street would be 3" with 4" being recommended for trail/off-road use.
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Haha well not necessarily for the tire clearance but it is important to get.
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:17 PM   #6
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Yes they will fit with enough back spacing. I have pics of my jeep like this in my profile. It is not recommended by anyone on here, you will rub if you go offroad. However for whatever reason on here most seem to think that if you do not have at least 4" with 33s you will destroy stuff going down the road to the store.
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:36 PM   #7
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Yes they will fit with enough back spacing. I have pics of my jeep like this in my profile. It is not recommended by anyone on here, you will rub if you go offroad. However for whatever reason on here most seem to think that if you do not have at least 4" with 33s you will destroy stuff going down the road to the store.
It all depends on the combination AND if you are disconnecting for full articulation. When I got mine it had 33x12.5 on AR Baja wheels, Bushwacker 6" flares and a 2" BL. I had no rubbing on the street or light trails. I ran that for 2 years (and the PO had that for who knows how long). I have since added a 2" BDS lift. Plenty of people have run 33's with a 2" BB on the street
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:49 PM   #8
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You probably didn't mean to include a MML in that recommendation for more tire clearance.

For 33" tires, the bare minimum additional clearance I'd want for the street would be 3" with 4" being recommended for trail/off-road use.
But you would want to keep your sway bar diconects in. it will rub quite a bit. thats the trouble im running into. I run 33's on 4" now but considered the BL
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Haha well not necessarily for the tire clearance but it is important to get.
Why would you consider a motor mount lift important to get? A MML can provide a minor amount of drivetrain angle correction in some situations but I wouldn't consider it important or required.
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:19 PM   #10
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Why would you consider a motor mount lift important to get? A MML can provide a minor amount of drivetrain angle correction in some situations but I wouldn't consider it important or required.
Not speaking for him, but I think people are associating the two together for the sake of the fan shroud/radiator.
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:32 PM   #11
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Not speaking for him, but I think people are associating the two together for the sake of the fan shroud/radiator.
That could be... but even when a body lift has been installed, installing a MML so the fan will clear the fan shroud would be like raising the bath tub instead of lowering the shower curtain rod.
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That could be... but even when a body lift has been installed, installing a MML so the fan will clear the fan shroud would be like raising the bath tub instead of lowering the shower curtain rod.
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Old 12-18-2012, 04:01 PM   #13
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That could be... but even when a body lift has been installed, installing a MML so the fan will clear the fan shroud would be like raising the bath tub instead of lowering the shower curtain rod.
Interesting. I was always under the impression that it was basically required when running a 2" BB and 1.25" BL. That is what I plan on doing in the near future (come one santa) but if I don't need the MML maybe I'll skip that step.
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Old 12-18-2012, 04:06 PM   #14
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2" springs and 3/4" spacer. Suspension is not completely compressed in this picture. There is not enough room. Oh and these are 33 x 11.5" tireson wheels with 4.5" back spacing.

I have since upgraded to 3" springs with the 3/4' spacer and it's a better fit. Would have to think 2" would be really pushing it, even on the street.
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Old 12-18-2012, 04:26 PM   #15
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Rubbing should not be what determines if a lift works or not. Regardless of the amount of lift you need to set your bumpstops to prevent the rubbing. Now all the other factors that come into play when limiting travel do matter. Some people don't need 6 inches of uptravel
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Yeah, I get that you can bump stop away all your travel. Just saying that 2" of lift and 33" tires is not going to leave much travel even for street use. Unless you do something with fenders, that's a different story.
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michigunman i think your signature is very relevant in this thread.
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:47 PM   #18
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Yeah, I get that you can bump stop away all your travel. Just saying that 2" of lift and 33" tires is not going to leave much travel even for street use. Unless you do something with fenders, that's a different story.
My springs probably sit at about 2" and i have a 1.25 bl. At ride height i have about 4ish inches of uptravel availible. 9" travel shocks. Going to be running 10" soon
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My springs probably sit at about 2" and i have a 1.25 bl. At ride height i have about 4ish inches of uptravel availible. 9" travel shocks. Going to be running 10" soon
4" uptravel is stock.

WaterDR...I'm sure you've seen this before:

33's are fit in two common ways on TJ's:

1. 4" suspension lift, with ~2" bumpstop extensions in front and ~2.5" in the rear. Requires a SYE/CV shaft.
2. 2.5" suspension lift, with a 1.25" body lift, with ~1-1.25" bumpstop extensions in front and ~1.25-1.5" in the rear. The 1.25" BL usually accompanies a 1" Motor Mount Lift to offset some of the driveline angles.

Either way you go, figure on some or many of the following components: longer front brake lines, extended sway bar links front and rear, gears, brake and steering upgrades to accommodate larger tires, SYE, CV shaft, bumpstop extensions, new shocks, adjustable track bars, and a rear track bar bracket.
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4" uptravel is stock.

WaterDR...I'm sure you've seen this before:

33's are fit in two common ways on TJ's:

1. 4" suspension lift, with ~2" bumpstop extensions in front and ~2.5" in the rear. Requires a SYE/CV shaft.
2. 2.5" suspension lift, with a 1.25" body lift, with ~1-1.25" bumpstop extensions in front and ~1.25-1.5" in the rear. The 1.25" BL usually accompanies a 1" Motor Mount Lift to offset some of the driveline angles.

Either way you go, figure on some or many of the following components: longer front brake lines, extended sway bar links front and rear, gears, brake and steering upgrades to accommodate larger tires, SYE, CV shaft, bumpstop extensions, new shocks, adjustable track bars, and a rear track bar bracket.
Yup. Enough for on and off road use. And more downtravel then stock. I fit in your option 2
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You guys have helped a lot!
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Old 12-19-2012, 01:04 AM   #22
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Can you run 33s with just a 2" spring lift?
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With 33s and a 2 Inch spring lift on the street and wheelin on the trails you shouldn't have any issues. Maybe on a ruff trail at full flex, might catch a little tire rub but you should be fine. Let me know if you have any questions I'd be happy to help out!

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Thanks! You think 32s would be less a problem?

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