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Old 08-24-2012, 01:25 AM   #1
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33s on a D35 axle?

Im getting new tires after the summer but I cant decide between 31s and 33s. The reason being is if the rear axle can hold up to the 33s. I have a 2006 2.4L with 29s right now. If I got 33s Id regear to 4.88s most likely but will the D35 snap or break with the 33s? If so then I'll get 31s most likely.

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Old 08-24-2012, 02:28 AM   #2
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it depends on how heavy off road your going to push it.

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Old 08-24-2012, 03:27 AM   #3
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Same as LTT5 it depends on what your going to be doing. If you DD it and hit some forest trails once in a while then it ought to handle it ok. But if you going into rocks or serious mud then you might want to look into another rear. I have 31's on my YJ's D35 but it is for the most part a mall crawler with a few good trails thrown in. My TJ has D44's
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I have been DDing and pounding my 35 offroad on 33's for 2 years now with no I'll effects. I have been running 3.07's though, 4.88's might change that.
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I have a D35 with 33's and I've done hill climbs and mud with 3:73 gears and no issues. You'll be ok if you don't do it everyday
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Up until recently I have had a D35 in two Jeeps that I've wheeled with 33s in rocks; I don't do mud unless it's absolutely unavoidable. Several in my club are in similar situations, and so far we have had little to no problems unless someone is being absolutely stupid, ie. flooring it to get over obstacles instead of properly driving.

Many people will try and tell you the D35 won't hold up at all with 33s, but I wouldn't listen to them. Most have probably never broken an axle and are simply repeating what they've read online. I'm not saying the D35 is a great axle, or that it would even hold up to hard wheeling locked with 33s, but it will hold up fairly well open with 33s.

If I was you, I'd go ahead and get the 33s and simply start researching and saving for a possible axle swap. Something like a D44 or 8.8 would probably suit you well, but it's nothing you need to worry about until you start pushing your Jeep harder. I recently swapped in an 8.8 because I'm looking to go to 35s very soon.
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Can you run 33's yes, but you have to be careful. This is based on me pulling several busted one's off the trail. The thing that will kill a dana 35 is wheel speed, and/or all the force on one wheel. The last one that busted was due to wheel speed, it was on stock 205's) tires. It was trying to come up a hill, too much gas, and it had open diffs, this was a TJ. the others have been related to being off camber and most of the weight on the one of the rear tires.

thus, you run bigger tires, but you need to be careful. a good upgrade is the super35 kit which gives you 30 spline shafts, or swapping in another axle such as a dana 44, ford 9 or ford 8.8.
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Old 08-24-2012, 08:39 AM   #8
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You'll be ok with 33's on your Dana 30. I run 33's Locked in the front. I did the 8.8 swap in the rear so I can't be much help with the 35, I ran it for a little while but did no wheel it as hard when I hade the 35 rear.
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Thanks for all the help guys! My jeep is my DD but I wheel maybe 1-2 times a month on some moderate trails. If I upgrade the axle then I can go harder.

What about snow? I like snow wheeling and we get a good amount in the winter
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It's not really how hard you wheel but how smart you are at it. I had a buddy that broke a axle shaft in his Dana 35 on a little 3 foot dirt wall. Also I would not waste money on a super 35 kit or anything along those lines to beef up stock axles. As much as that would cost you might as well do a full axle swap. It would be more work but cheaper and pay off better in the end.
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If you go with 31-33's on a D35, I would avoid a locker. Locking up the rear, bouncing and binding the tire seems to do the D35 twist-bang-pop.
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I ran mine for years with the D35, 3.73's, 33" tires, stock shafts, open dif, automatic.

I had no choice because I was saving and collecting parts for an axle swap, everything that goes with it, and more.

Never letting it hop if forward motion stopped. Never romping on the skinny pedal on uphill climbs.

I never broke a shaft, and sold it for $150 when I swapped in my D44.

It did ok in the snow too back then.

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Never letting it hop if forward motion stopped. Never romping on the skinny pedal on uphill climbs.

I never broke a shaft, and sold it for $150 when I swapped in my D44.

It did ok in the snow too back then.
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My Jeep is X so I think I have the 35's also and it runs fine with my 33 tires. Just did minor off road so far. I know it would run better with the 44 and such though
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Im not putting a locker in so I dont need to worry about that. I have a 6 speed so I'll need to regear most likely. And fom why Ive heard, I wanna get the 4.88s, I dont think the 4.11s or 4.56s, or whatever the gears are, is enough. Am I right?
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Well what engine do you got?
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I have a D35 with 33's and I've done hill climbs and mud with 3:73 gears and no issues. You'll be ok if you don't do it everyday
This advise is questionable. It does not take every day wheeling to break the axle, it can happen in a parking lot at times. Lot's of information regarding this set up and most of it always says it is not a good set up if you do any type of wheeling. It is a gamble and some people are lucky at gambling.
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Well what engine do you got?
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This advise is questionable. It does not take every day wheeling to break the axle, it can happen in a parking lot at times. Lot's of information regarding this set up and most of it always says it is not a good set up if you do any type of wheeling. It is a gamble and some people are lucky at gambling.
Hmm, well now Im torn :thinking:
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why not just get 32's and have the best of both worlds? I have gone from 32 to 33 to 32's and don't notice a difference really.

I have a 4.0 3 Speed Auto on 3.73
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With your engine and what you have I'd say save your pennies and do a axle swap I think you'll need 4.88's, piss on a regear on a Dana 35 if you plan on swapping it out, just a waste right now, Save your funds for what you wanna do and can do. If you wanna do fun shit down the road, part out your 35 for what it's worth, and put in a 8.8. and re-gear it then. But again it depends on your situation, mine is not a dd so it can sit in the garage for weeks and I don't care. Some people don't have access to perform axles swaps cheap and prefer to upgrade the stock axles because it easier (deff not cheaper) and faster sometimes, but thats something that can be done in the back yard in a few hours.
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What's the difference between a d35 and a d44?
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What's the difference between a d35 and a d44?
Well I've never used a dana 44, but it's suppose to be stronger than a Dana 44. Only downfall to a 8.8 is the C clip. Bit you can buy a C clip eliminator kit.
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Hmm, well now Im torn :thinking:
With your engine you're going to want to regear ASAP; like the others have said if an axle swap is in your future, you might as well do it before regearing.

I still stand by what I said though; for DD use and light-mild wheeling, the D35 will hold up fine open on 33s. If you can deal with being undergeared until you swap axles, I say go ahead and get the 33s.
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33s on a D35 will be fine, don't lock it and don't use the skinny pedal as your primary escape plan. Intelligent wheeling in the little bit of off roading you said you would be doing and you will be fine.
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I've had 33s on my D35 since I got my Jeep a couple years ago. Stock 4.10 gearing with the 2.5 and 5 speed. It's held up fine so far with some mild wheeling on forest trails and a little bit harder stuff on some old logging trails. That said, I'm planning on swapping in an 8.8 pretty soon, and will re-gear then. I'm not spending a dime on the 35, other than a fluid change a while ago. I don't think it's worth putting any money into it at all, especially when better axles can be found for less than the cost of upgrading the 35.
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Only downfall to a 8.8 is the C clip. Bit you can buy a C clip eliminator kit.
Many people say this...but from the guys that actually run the 8.8 you dont hear the c clip ever being a major concern. Plus, if you get the newer 8.8s, you dont have to worry about the shaft walking out on you since you have the discs.
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Many people say this...but from the guys that actually run the 8.8 you dont hear the c clip ever being a major concern. Plus, if you get the newer 8.8s, you dont have to worry about the shaft walking out on you since you have the discs.
Well i actually run a 8.8 with a c clip and I have never had a issue nor have I complained, but it is one of the only places with a 8.8 that will fail if it does at all.
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I been running 33's on stock D35/D30 for about two years and wheel regularly on some pretty nasty trails. As others have said, its not where you wheel its HOW you wheel.

I have a Ford 8.8 sitting in the garage just waiting for some TLC and a boatload of $$$. I want to do the swap over the winter. Been wanting to add an ARB locker to my rig but wouldn't dream of putting one in a D35. And having 4 wheel disk brakes is a big Plus!

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Well i actually run a 8.8 with a c clip and I have never had a issue nor have I complained, but it is one of the only places with a 8.8 that will fail if it does at all.
Oh I know you did. I was just commenting lol...cuz you will get guys out there that will say that the 8.8 isnt as good cuz it's a cclip and you need to worry about that, but they have never had any real life experience with it and so on (but I guess that goes for just about every topic on the forums). I agree though...also running that axle and the c clip is probably the one of the only places it may fail...except for that flimsy stock diff cover

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