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Old 08-22-2013, 09:22 AM   #1
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I am needing to buy new tires for my 2000 TJ 4.0 auto stock suspension to pass VA inspection. I do not have the money to buy a proper lift kit (OE 2.5) yet but will have the money saved up in around 6 month. I would like to buy 33 now so I dont have buy tires again when I install the lift in 6 month. My question is if I limit my wheeling to very lite stuff will installing a 2 inch BBL do? will I have to replace the factory shocks? will I need a MML? Also I have 15x8.0 Canyon rims with 31 on them now will I need a spacer for the 33x12.5?
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First, it's my strongest possible opinion that a 2.5" suspension lift does not provide nearly enough clearance for 33" tires. The bare minimum is 3" & what is recommended is 4"... I agree with the 4" recommended.

33x12.50 tires will rub on the suspension with factory wheels, you need aftermarket wheels with 4" or less backspacing... or 1" wheel spacers.

If you temporarily run a 2" budget boost, you won't need a MML but you may need to drop the transfer case 1/2" or so which you can do with washers stacked around each of the six transfer case skidplate bolts, placed between the frame & skidplate. The spacers are to eliminate the drivetrain vibrations that may or may not happen after installing the 2" BB. Since this is temporary & for street use, yoiu can get away by using the stock shocks until you install the taller recommended height suspension lift.

One way you can achieve that recommended 4" of clearance that is cheaper than installing a 4" suspension lift would be to install a 3" suspesion lift and a 1" body lift.

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I am needing to buy new tires for my 2000 TJ 4.0 auto stock suspension to pass VA inspection. I do not have the money to buy a proper lift kit (OE 2.5) yet but will have the money saved up in around 6 month. I would like to buy 33 now so I dont have buy tires again when I install the lift in 6 month.

My question is if I limit my wheeling to very lite stuff will installing a 2 inch BBL do?

will I have to replace the factory shocks?

will I need a MML?

Also I have 15x8.0 Canyon rims with 31 on them now will I need a spacer for the 33x12.5?
A 2"bb will do temporarily on the street with 1.5" added to your bump stop. Add a 1.25bl and you'll have enough to do what you want within reason.

Its always good to replace the factory shocks with any suspension lift, but the front are long enough, and the back varies, My TJ had enough rear droop left but my Dads LJ is topping out the rear shocks.

You will not need a MML, but their always nice to do when you install a body lift. You may need to drop your t-case some without it though.

Yes, you will either need a spacer or new rims with 4"bs or less to run 33s. I have 33x12.50r15 on 15x8 D-windows with 3.75bs and I rub my coil bucket every once and a while.
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Old 08-22-2013, 11:55 AM   #4
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Great info, thanks for the help guys
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Old 08-22-2013, 12:07 PM   #5
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I've got a Rubicon Express BB (with Monotube shocks), 3.75" bs wheels and 33" BF Goodrich tyres. All works fine on the road. It's not perfect but it works. The key thing is that the RE kit comes with the same shocks and bumpstop extensions front and rear as their 3.5" kit, which is rated for 33" tyres. So nothing will hit anything you don't want it to!
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i installed 2 inch coil spacers and could turn full lock with no rubbing and everything stock with 33"x12.5x15. i didnt do any offroading with it like that and drove like ms daisy for the last 4 months, but i was in the same boat as you. make sure you buy rims with at least 3.75" of backspacing and you should be fine.
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Kind of funny you ask about this, I have a rough country 2.5in SL(my first one) and about 5 minutes ago I installed a JKS 1.25" BL for my 33's that will are being mounted and balanced as I type. I'm confident I'll be more than ok with 3.75in's of lift for 33's.

Side note: I've read everywhere that 4in lift is best for 33's so eventually I'll upgrade to a 3" zone lift, on top of the BL that I just put on.
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I had a 2" BL with 33s and would rub pulling in the driveway.


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Old 08-22-2013, 07:43 PM   #9
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Lets cut past the bull and get a 6" body lift on that bad boy! Get r done! :P
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:51 PM   #10
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Thanks for the info everybody one last question. I had a problem today and let's just say I am replacing my rims now the rims are ultra type 164 the specs are
Size: 15x8
Offset: -18mm
Backspacing: 3.70"
Bolt Pattern: 5-114
Rec. Tire Size: 235/75-15
Weight: 16.5lbs.
Finish: Black Painted
Construction: 1pc. Gravity Cast
Will these work with 33x12.5r15 Kumho Road Venture MT KL71
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Lets cut past the bull and get a 6" body lift on that bad boy! Get r done! :P
Lol, Ive seen it. What, theres nothing wrong with a 4" BL as long as you dont skimp out on it... HA!
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Lol, Ive seen it. What, theres nothing wrong with a 4" BL as long as you dont skimp out on it... HA!
Thats what the pressure treated 4x4's are for.
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Thats what the pressure treated 4x4's are for.
That green is a nice accent color
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Thats what the pressure treated 4x4's are for.
Ok or brown
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Here's my dad driving my jeep.... He took it... Anyway 33x12.5 on a 3.75" combo lift (2.5"SL, 1.25") it'll do just fine
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The key thing is that the RE kit comes with the same shocks and bumpstop extensions front and rear as their 3.5" kit, which is rated for 33" tyres.
Rubicon's 3.5" kit is more like 4.5" in reality which is why it handles 33" tires so well. All of their kits tend to be about an inch taller in reality than they are advertised at. I had ordered RE's 5.5" long-arm lift years ago but when I learned how tall it was in reality, I changed the order to their 4.5" kit which was more like 5.5" in reality... more than enough for 35's.

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