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Old 11-07-2008, 09:41 AM   #1
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35's 3.73's and 4'' lift

so i am thinking of going to a 4'' lift sye yada yada yada. I am going to adjust the bumpstops as needed but i would like to run 35's on it.

this is my daily driver and i cruise around on muddy fireroads and medium difficulty trails. really no rock crawling.

my questions are

1 can i see pics of 4'' of lift and 35's

2 will my drivetrain survive with the 35's i have a dana 30 dana 44 combo. Like i said i am not going to be 4 wheeling hard trails but will hit some medium trails every now and then. remember i drive this every day of the week and use it for short trips within 45 miles on the interstate on the weekends.

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Old 11-07-2008, 10:13 AM   #2
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1.yes the drive train will be fine... keep in mind that stopping quickly may be an issue vs fitting the tires on the 4" lift. I ran 6" in the front and 4.5" in the rear with my 35's, give or take. I ran 33's with 3.73 and the 5 spd, was okay.. not sure how it would have been with the 35's.

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Old 11-07-2008, 10:23 AM   #3
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IMO - I'm running 33's w/3.73's and I'm OK here in the foothills. However, if I was going to 35's I would re-gear to 4.88's (I have auto trans - 4 speed)
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i have a 6 speed and the 4.0
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Old 11-07-2008, 11:43 AM   #5
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4 inch lift is fine for 35's but you will have no axle travel.. 4 inch lift is perfect for 33's.. you gearing isn't bad but 4.88 is the way to go if you want to keep your jeep running like normal..
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I have 4 inch with 35's but my gearing is 4.56. It works great as a daily drive but not so good on the high way. For playing in the mud it is good but no axle travel.
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:07 AM   #7
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i have 35s, 4" suspension and 2" body lift.. 4.0L with bunch of mods, 5 speed and 3.73 gears.. i have no problem holding speed on 5th gear with those stock gears. If i have to climb a hill, shift to 4th.. no biggy.
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Old 11-08-2008, 01:37 AM   #8
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my girlfriend runs a 4'' procomp lift with 35'' tires.. she has 3.73 gears.. she tends to tub out though, then again your 1.25'' bl will give you some more advantage

i run 33s on 3.73s.. but her jeep seems to manage the 35s better than my 33s.. but then again her jeep is 80k miles newer and also she has a 4 speed auto against my 3 speed auto =/

i love my jeeps setup though
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Im runing 4"inch suspension and a 2 inch body on 35's...You cant just do a 4inch lift with 35's cause ur guna have flex issues..Better off getting a short body for a little extra clearance..If you wanna see pics the link is in my sig below
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Old 11-08-2008, 08:01 PM   #10
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I'm running 3.5" of lift, no body lift at all, and 35" tires with minimal rubbing. My rear tires just kiss the flares a bit and if I weren't running bushwackers, then everything would be all good. I do run some BTF tube fenders up front, but before I had them I had stock fenders that were pretty munched by rocks, trees, and so forth so the little bit of rubbing up there didn't concern me. It sits low and it works especially on the crazy side hills out here.

Your drive train will most likely be fine. You'll definitely want 4.56-4.88 gears though. Most of my breakage has happened under fairly extreme circumstances. Not extreme wheeling, just bad choices and pushing my rig a little harder than I should and it was almost all to the D35 rear end. So your drive train should be just fine.

4" of lift and 35's should work awesome.







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hey opti nice clean tj.......he is right though.....stuff all the tire you can and as he mentioned get rid of the d35 if youve got it......i broke 10 rear shafts in 6 months before i went to the 8.8.........i only ever broke one of those on 36s and i thrash.....my 01 is not even a 1/4 as clean has optis b/c i am rough and that is why i have upgraded axles since my 8.8 breakage at the badlands
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hey opti nice clean tj.......he is right though.....stuff all the tire you can and as he mentioned get rid of the d35 if youve got it......i broke 10 rear shafts in 6 months before i went to the 8.8.........i only ever broke one of those on 36s and i thrash.....my 01 is not even a 1/4 as clean has optis b/c i am rough and that is why i have upgraded axles since my 8.8 breakage at the badlands
Damn! 10 shafts in 6 months! Thats craziness. You must really beat your junk hard. I've got a rear D60 sitting around that I want to swap under mine. I'm looking for a front D60 at the moment too. My budget just keeps getting cut by my soon to be wife. I'm surprised my TJ is as clean as it is. I just have a little tree rash on my driver side behind the door and on my windshield frame from wedging a tree in my door well up at Rimrock. Those are some tight trails. Lots of crazy off camber stuff too. Thats why I like to keep my rig as low as possible. I think it works well in most terrains and situations. It hasn't hurt me at all any where. I've been in rock, down tight trails, off camber trails, very steep climbs, and a bunch of other situations and I cant complain. In fact I only have good things to say about being low. Some times I think you have to think out side the box and work around issues you may have to achieve staying low, but its well worth it. Those high line fender kits popping up every where are a good option for staying really low IMO. I'd love to drop my lift down, run bigger tires, and sit lower than I do right now and its all possible. Its just time, money, and a little planning... right?

I cant wait to see Gen-Right's boat side kit. Yay for more rocker clearance.
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My budget just keeps getting cut by my soon to be wife.
Jeez man, already?
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Jeez man, already?
Yeah...

As if day care for the kid wasn't expensive enough, she wants a house before I can free up more cash flow. Unfortunately thats not happening any time soon due to the economy and my current savings. I just have to save as much as I can here and there and put it toward the Jeep fund and hope it adds up to something for the time being. Oh yes... then theres the money I'll be missing because of my honey moon to mexico... but that's an acceptable loss.
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Oh yes... then theres the money I'll be missing because of my honey moon to mexico... but that's an acceptable loss.
Well have fun there man. A buddy of mine went there for a week.. he came back fat!!!
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hey opti whats the specs on your wheels and tires. there toyos are they 12.50 or 13.50 wide? are your wheels 15x8's or 15x10's and whats the backspacing?

i plan to keep my current 15x8's with 3.75 backspacing
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hey opti whats the specs on your wheels and tires. there toyos are they 12.50 or 13.50 wide? are your wheels 15x8's or 15x10's and whats the backspacing?

i plan to keep my current 15x8's with 3.75 backspacing
Those toyo's are 35"x13.5". My rims are 15"x10", but for the life of me I cant remember what my backspacing is. It'll come to me. I think that if I would have had a 12.5" wide tire, then I think it would have helped with my fender flare rubbage and prolonged the life of my bushwackers. It was that extra inch of tire that contacted the flare rather than tucking up inside that helped do the fronts in. A more flexible stock style flare would also have helped tremendously in keeping stock front fenders up front.
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4 inch lift & 1 inch spacer in the front ON 35-12.5-15 ----
but I also have 8.8 in the rear and D44 up front W/5.13 gears and many other dodads.
But you will love the jeep with the new tires and lift, you will have no regreats unless it was to have gone bigger on everything!


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Opti..I love your fenders..If Jersey would let me get them I would have sooooo much more flex then right now
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Opti..I love your fenders..If Jersey would let me get them I would have sooooo much more flex then right now
They're the BTF DIY tube fenders. So you have to weld them together and everything yourself. It would be just as easy to make some sort of tube flare or detachable flare. I actually had plans to drill and sleeve holes to attach some quick disconnect flares. It would be super easy, I just haven't gotten around to doing it. I'm by no means legal here at the moment though. I do have mud flaps and rear flares and most police leave me alone. I'm assuming that its because they see that I'm making an effort. I may highline my tube fenders, but I'm not sure. I may just buy the whole Gen-Right Kit and get the fenders along with the rockers and corners, but its just a matter of saving the money.
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4 inch lift & 1 inch spacer in the front ON 35-12.5-15 ----
but I also have 8.8 in the rear and D44 up front W/5.13 gears and many other dodads.
But you will love the jeep with the new tires and lift, you will have no regreats unless it was to have gone bigger on everything!


It looks like a 4in lift with that extra inch from the 8.8 and inch spacer in the front brings it up just enough, I would be a little to do just a 4in with nothing else, nicely done.

If you or anyone else has any pics of a 4in and 35s on some trails showing how it flexes I would love to see them on here.
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4 inch lift no body lift i cleared 35's pretty damn good then got flat fenders in the front and at almost full stuff would just kiss the fender though i did rub when turning hard sometimes because my wheels didn't have enough backspacing i now have 34x10.50 ltbs they grab anything and dont look that bad i wish they made a 35 36 or 37 i would buy them in a second o i used to have 35x12.50 bfg mts
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4 inch lift no body lift i cleared 35's pretty damn good then got flat fenders in the front and at almost full stuff would just kiss the fender though i did rub when turning hard sometimes because my wheels didn't have enough backspacing i now have 34x10.50 ltbs they grab anything and dont look that bad i wish they made a 35 36 or 37 i would buy them in a second o i used to have 35x12.50 bfg mts
They do make 35" LTB's now. They now have 35's, 40's, and 47's...

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