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Old 02-28-2012, 09:51 PM   #1
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4.5" Lift with 33" Tires

Hey guys I have a 2000 TJ Sport and I'm looking into getting a 4.5 inch lift from Rubicon Express I need some info on what SYE I should get and how long of a drive shaft I'll need. Also would I need to get spacers for the 33 inch tires to work properly? If there is anything extra I'll need I would appreciate it if you mention it in this thread thanks!

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Old 02-28-2012, 10:00 PM   #2
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sye will not matter just any kind, tom woods is the best driveshaft..length will depend once you get the lift on and put the sye on youll have to measure for your driveshaft..also adjustable rear upper control arms to set the pinion angle ..yes youll need 1.25" spacers to fit the 33s or aftermarket wheels with 4" backspacing or more (smaller number) might want to look into gears as well ;]

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Old 02-28-2012, 10:05 PM   #3
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Re lifts tend to run half an inch to an inch higher than what they actually say so you may want to get a 3.5 or those 33's might look a bit wierd plus you can keep your cog lower. Throw a 1.25 inch body lift on and a tummy tuck and youll be golden.
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sye will not matter just any kind, tom woods is the best driveshaft..length will depend once you get the lift on and put the sye on youll have to measure for your driveshaft..also adjustable rear upper control arms to set the pinion angle ..yes youll need 1.25" spacers to fit the 33s or aftermarket wheels with 4" backspacing or more (smaller number) might want to look into gears as well ;]
Ok I have no idea what you're talking about with the rear upper control arms to set the pinion angle haha I'm a neewbie just learning at the moment! But I will totally check out the Tom Woods driveshafts and some spacers
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Old 02-28-2012, 11:12 PM   #5
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Re lifts tend to run half an inch to an inch higher than what they actually say so you may want to get a 3.5 or those 33's might look a bit wierd plus you can keep your cog lower. Throw a 1.25 inch body lift on and a tummy tuck and youll be golden.
My friend is running the same lift on his Cherokee and highly recommended it to me but I am still undecided on weather I should go with their 3.5 or 4.5 the 3.5 is a lot cheaper but I'd also like the extra inch that the 4.5 offers ugh I'm not sure what to get but if I go with the 4.5 do you recommend some 35's instead of 33's?
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I have the Rubicon 4.5 Express and I'm running 35's, if you put on 33's it will look a wee bit funny....
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Old 02-29-2012, 08:24 AM   #7
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I have the Rubicon 4.5 Express and I'm running 35's, if you put on 33's it will look a wee bit funny....
Then I'll totally go with some 35's haha what all did you have have to install other than the lift?
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Old 02-29-2012, 08:28 AM   #8
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i have that lift and have had mickey thompson 35's, which were sweet but now have super swamper iRocs in 37 and its truly a monster truck. gas mileage is great if you consider single digits to be great!
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Then I'll totally go with some 35's haha what all did you have have to install other than the lift?
i dont wanna bust your chops or anything...but if you say "totally go with some 35s" then you have no clue what your getting yourself into..if you want to run 35s you better have deep pockets as in a couple grand to throw at the jeep not including wheels tires and a lift kit...35s require new axles, gears, steering components, better braking system etc etc. go with the Rubicon Express 3.5"...the 4.5" is gonna be a lot of lift...3.5" and 33s will look great and help your wallet out a little more...as to what i was saying about pinion angle....when you instal and sye and cv driveshaft it has to be sittinig at a particular angle according to your lift or else when you go down the road the entire driveline will vibrate...if you purchase rear upper adjustable control arms you can adjust that angle so that the vibrations go away and everything runs smoothly ;]
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Here is what my RE 4.5", RE7000 kit looked like on my old TJ. This was shortly after I put the lift on but I also had a 2" body lift that I later dropped down to a JKS 1.25" BL. I had a Tom Woods driveshaft as well. If that Jeep isn't your daily driver I'd recommend putting the lift on then measuring for the driveshaft. The last picture is a little flexing with it



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Oh yeah, I was running 33x12.50 Pro Comp MT
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i dont wanna bust your chops or anything...but if you say "totally go with some 35s" then you have no clue what your getting yourself into..if you want to run 35s you better have deep pockets as in a couple grand to throw at the jeep not including wheels tires and a lift kit...35s require new axles, gears, steering components, better braking system etc etc. go with the Rubicon Express 3.5"...the 4.5" is gonna be a lot of lift...3.5" and 33s will look great and help your wallet out a little more...as to what i was saying about pinion angle....when you instal and sye and cv driveshaft it has to be sittinig at a particular angle according to your lift or else when you go down the road the entire driveline will vibrate...if you purchase rear upper adjustable control arms you can adjust that angle so that the vibrations go away and everything runs smoothly ;]
So if I were to get some 35's I would have to get new axles, gears, steering components and a better breaking system?
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i have a 4in lift on my TJ on 33s and love it. Just the right amount of wheel gap. I can also flex the jeep quite well when im wheeling without rubbing. I dont have SYE on mine, i have the transfer case drop. I didnt have the money for a SYE and DS so i went with the Trans drop until i get the money. Also i ran 33's on the stock 3.07 gears and is sucked so back. U really need to look into regearing really soon. I went from 3.07s to 4.10 and im telling you it was the best money i spent. I enjoy driving the jeep so much better and it even helped my gas milage. got with the 3.5 lift, 33's, trans drop and then see if you have the money to get your jeep regeared. I promise you, you will be every happy with that over a 4.5, 35s or 33s with a SYE and DS's
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No you don't have to get new axle's if you have the D44 on the rear, I',m not too sure about the D35 on the rear... I have D30 front, and D44 rear. lift it, drive shaft, SYE kit and call it a day. I even ran with 3.73 gears for a while (as I was told from a gear shop), The best advise that I can give you is go down to your local lift shop and talk to them and listen to them... WF has too many different opinions sometimes... Good luck!
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trust me if your running 3.07 gears and you dont regear it for the 33s you will regret it. do the gears, it will be well worth it and you regret it, promise you that. Out of everything i did, regearing and lockers was the best money spent
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I would also do the tummy tuck while you are at it. This way you only have to purchase the ds once, just in case you decide to go with tummy tuck in the near future.
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No you don't have to get new axle's if you have the D44 on the rear, I',m not too sure about the D35 on the rear... I have D30 front, and D44 rear. lift it, drive shaft, SYE kit and call it a day. I even ran with 3.73 gears for a while (as I was told from a gear shop), The best advise that I can give you is go down to your local lift shop and talk to them and listen to them... WF has too many different opinions sometimes... Good luck!
people have broken axle shafts on the d35 on 31" tires...trust me it wont hold 35s...do a search on it here..plenty of evidence and proof with pictures
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O.P. juuuustttt realized you have a sport so you might have a d44 rear.....my bad blue6tj now i know what you were talkin about lol O.P. look at your rear axle and see if it has a metal or a plastic drain plug
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I'm probably going to go with the 3.5 RE Super flex lift kit because I can't afford all the extra parts that go into kits over 4 inches

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