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Old 02-09-2014, 02:46 PM   #1
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4 inch lift advice

Have a 97 Wrangled Sport 4.0 5 sp manual. I am looking to put a Skyjacker 4" inch economy lift in soon. I am purchasing the lift kit,transfer case lowering kit,new longer brake lines & a steering stabilizer. I am currently riding on 31s & will be probably until summer when new tires (33's) will be bought. Any advice on good or bad moves on the lift ALSO advice on good 33x12.5 tires. It is a daily driver & trying to keep cost down yet still a "smooth" ride. Many thanks.

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Have a 97 Wrangled Sport 4.0 5 sp manual. I am looking to put a Skyjacker 4" inch economy lift in soon. I am purchasing the lift kit,transfer case lowering kit,new longer brake lines & a steering stabilizer. I am currently riding on 31s & will be probably until summer when new tires (33's) will be bought. Any advice on good or bad moves on the lift ALSO advice on good 33x12.5 tires. It is a daily driver & trying to keep cost down yet still a "smooth" ride. Many thanks.
Yes, don't buy it...! If you are determined to go 4" on that kind of budget, take a look at the Zone combo lift. It combines a 3" suspension lift with a 1.25" body lift, and a 1" motor mount lift. That does about four things for you. It lets you keep your stock control arms and the ride closer to stock, It gives you a little over 4" of lift without lowering the transfer case (which kind of defeats the purpose of a lift), it raises the clearance on your oil pan an 1", and it sets you up if you want to do a high clearance skid down the road.

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Yes, don't buy it...! If you are determined to go 4" on that kind of budget, take a look at the Zone combo lift. It combines a 3" suspension lift with a 1.25" body lift, and a 1" motor mount lift. That does about four things for you. It lets you keep your stock control arms and the ride closer to stock, It gives you a little over 4" of lift without lowering the transfer case (which kind of defeats the purpose of a lift), it raises the clearance on your oil pan an 1", and it sets you up if you want to do a high clearance skid down the road.

Zone Offroad 4-1/4" Combo System 97-06 Jeep Wrangler TJ J25/J26
X2. Ive had bad experiemce with skyjacker amd havent heard great thimgs about em as well. I have zone 4.25 and its great.
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Great advice. I just got my TJ a few years ago after a lifetime of wanting so I'm new to the lift stuff.
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Old 02-09-2014, 04:04 PM   #5
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Great advice. I just got my TJ a few years ago after a lifetime of wanting so I'm new to the lift stuff.
Awesome! Who doesnt want a TJ??
Anyway.. When it comes to suspension you get what you pay for so if your on a budget, the zone 4.25 kit is fantastic for the money. Only other thing i would highly recommend is a front adjustable track bar. The kit wants you to drill a new hole for your stock one which isnt really a good idea as it weakens the mount. Brand to go for on that would be JKS. I have Rubicon express and it works great but people seem to like jks more. That should be the only additional thing you need with the kit. Do a little reaearch on lift kits and youll find there are thousands of threads which will teach you ALOT and youll understand what does what and why you need certain parts and may even change your mind on lift kits to get a better one. Reading through the forum is a phenomenal learning tool. Ive learned sooo much. Good luck to ya and any other questions just ask!
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Old 02-09-2014, 04:25 PM   #6
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Definitely great advice I'm getting. The zone kit offers sway bar disconnects & steering stabilizer. For a daily driver would these be needed? I don't don't much "heavy" off-roading but I bet with higher suspension & tires that will change.
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Definitely great advice I'm getting. The zone kit offers sway bar disconnects & steering stabilizer. For a daily driver would these be needed? I don't don't much "heavy" off-roading but I bet with higher suspension & tires that will change.
If you plan on any off roading, it would be a good idea to get the disconnects unless you plan on installing an Antirock (which I doubt). I would only get the steering stabilizer if there is something wrong with your current one...they are pretty much good or bad.
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I do plan on do some more heavy off-roading once the lift is done so I will get the disconnects but no issues with the steering as of now.
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Here's a picture of my sons with a 4.25 Zone Combo lift and 33's...the red one.
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That's what I'm looking for. Looks great. Was there any issues during install?
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Ooh ill play! Haha heres mine on zone 4.25 with 33s. Only issue i had during install was my rear track bar bolt frame side was seized inside so i had to grind it off and punch it out. Just be sure to pb blast or aerokroil (not wd40) everything a couple days for a week or two before install. Youll be glad you did and run into less issues. Other than that it was pretty simple and love how it rides and performs and sits too.
Water Dog, thats cool you and your son both have jeeps, both look great too. I convinced my brother to get one recently and have already got him hooked on modding. Its an addiction..

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I know. We love to wheel together. No issues, but time, of coarse we live in CA where they don't allow rust....
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Ooh ill play! Haha heres mine on zone 4.25 with 33s. Only issue i had during install was my rear track bar bolt frame side was seized inside so i had to grind it off and punch it out. Just be sure to pb blast or aerokroil (not wd40) everything a couple days for a week or two before install. Youll be glad you did and run into less issues. Other than that it was pretty simple and love how it rides and performs and sits too. Water Dog, thats cool you and your son both have jeeps, both look great too. I convinced my brother to get one recently and have already got him hooked on modding. Its an addiction..
Looks great. Ya I live in Ga but purchased through an auction I have access to from Jersey. Your black beauty looks great. I see this is what I'm looking for. My dad was a Delta mechanic for 30+ years & he says the same thing about putting a pretreatment on it before ya get started
My GF wasn't into it much when I got it but after the first time I took her mudding she was hooked.
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Here is mine.



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Thanks! Ya i had very little rust. Really only on that track bar bolt that was it. Pretty easy install. Your jeep looks good! Will look even better with the lift and tires and new wheels. It totally changes the look..
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I highly suggest the Zone 4.25 combo as well. Another suggestion along with the previous mentioned front adjustable track bar is the 3/4 coil spacers in the front to level the factory rake. Especially if your planning on adding a winch or heavy bumper later.
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xwhatever number we're on with Zone. Absolutely love my Zone. Maybe we should put this as a Zone 4.25 combo pic thread? Anyways, here's my lift also on 33's MTR Kevlar.
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I highly suggest the Zone 4.25 combo as well. Another suggestion along with the previous mentioned front adjustable track bar is the 3/4 coil spacers in the front to level the factory rake. Especially if your planning on adding a winch or heavy bumper later.
That's great to hear because I will add on a better bumper & winch by fall. I'm trying to get as much done at one time to make sure I don't hafta go back in later. Seems like a great kit for what I'm wanting. Wasn't sure about the motor lift but looked at the install & should be no problem. I have pretty good mechanical skills. 😎
Jeepandmud yours looks great. I'm glad I ran across this forum due to the great advice & jeepers pics.
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That's great to hear because I will add on a better bumper & winch by fall. I'm trying to get as much done at one time to make sure I don't hafta go back in later. Seems like a great kit for what I'm wanting. Wasn't sure about the motor lift but looked at the install & should be no problem. I have pretty good mechanical skills. ?de0e
Jeepandmud yours looks great. I'm glad I ran across this forum due to the great advice & jeepers pics.
Thank you. It was the only clean one I have where you can clearly see the lift.
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I went with the zone 4" lift and SYE kit with ProComp 33x12.5x15 and love it!!
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I must say I defiantly appreciate the help. The money I'm also saving will allow other purchases.
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This is awesome!!! I think I'm going to go for the same route on this!!! Awesome
Dumb question. Doesn't the 1 inch motor mount adjust the front dip??? Where do these 3/4 spacers go??? Sorry if it's a stir question. Still new to this new world.
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This is awesome!!! I think I'm going to go for the same route on this!!! Awesome
Dumb question. Doesn't the 1 inch motor mount adjust the front dip??? Where do these 3/4 spacers go??? Sorry if it's a stir question. Still new to this new world.
What is a front dip, and what 3/4" spacers??? Also don't know what a stir question is, but I think my wife was doing that to the pot of home made soup.

The motor mount lift raises the motor mounts 1" so that the angle of the rear drive train (engine/transmission/transfer case) is slanted more towards the rear to eliminate drive line vibes created by bad u-joint angles on the rear drive shaft. It serves the same function as a transfer case drop, but raises the front end instead of lowering the back end.
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This is awesome!!! I think I'm going to go for the same route on this!!! Awesome
Dumb question. Doesn't the 1 inch motor mount adjust the front dip??? Where do these 3/4 spacers go??? Sorry if it's a stir question. Still new to this new world.
Also not sure on the front dip? But the 3/4" spacers mentioned do not come with the kit and are only needed if running heavy bunper and winch and maybe not then still (correct route is bigger springs but this is cheap route). They sit on top of the coils to provide that much more lift.
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Also not sure on the front dip? But the 3/4" spacers mentioned do not come with the kit and are only needed if running heavy bunper and winch and maybe not then still (correct route is bigger springs but this is cheap route). They sit on top of the coils to provide that much more lift.
The "front dip" that I was thinking of, is how on the stock TJ, the front is lower than the back...and thought that the lift would fix that.
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The "front dip" that I was thinking of, is how on the stock TJ, the front is lower than the back...and thought that the lift would fix that.
its called rake. it's designed to be there, so when you put passengers or gear in the back you aren't dragging your arse around and bottoming out.

some rake is good, even lifted. however, sometimes a heavy winch and/or bumper will leave you with sagged springs (whether lifted or stock). if that's the case, you need stiffer/longer springs to handle the extra weight.

you don't want this:
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its called rake. it's designed to be there, so when you put passengers or gear in the back you aren't dragging your arse around and bottoming out. some rake is good, even lifted. however, sometimes a heavy winch and/or bumper will leave you with sagged springs (whether lifted or stock). if that's the case, you need stiffer/longer springs to handle the extra weight. you don't want this:
Thank you for the explanation!! That was very educational and useful
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Very good explanation & picture. LOL. It's good to find out new things in your journey to a DIY world.
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For those in this thread thank you for the advice. Ordered the zone kit & will put it in about mid April with tires about mid summer. Looking fwd to a new more aggressive stance. Any install advice would be helpful.
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Thanks for all the useful info! It confirmed what I wanted to do with my build. Just wondering the best place to order the zone combo kit? (cheapest/free shipping/ promo codes??)

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