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Old 03-06-2011, 10:45 AM   #1
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4 inch x lift install 06 LJ

Hey guys,
It took me a week to get all the pics together, but i tried my best to document important parts of th install.

I got the rough country 4" x lift with adjustable upper and lower control arms, springs, shocks, front track bar, drop pitman arm, etc.

I also bought a skyjacker Transfer case drop.

I must say the Jeep rides a hell of alot better now. i was expecting all sorts of issues and things needing to be tweeked. I aligned the front end pretty good, but i will take it in to get a professional to starighten her out the rest of the way.

As you will see in the pics i didnt do everything the exacty way tyhe instructions said. instead of writing a novel on here, i'll post what pics they will let me and if you have any questions i'll be happy to answer the best i can.

one thing i did was take the entire rear syuspension apart and let the axle float on a jack. this gave me plenty of room to remove and install shocks and to install the control arms. the instructions said to leave the trackbar in place on the one side and to take one arm out, put one in before moving on. i took this approach on the front axle and it was a pain in the ass.

also, if your ride is stock be prepared to have a stubborn pitman arm. I broke 2 pullers, and even a puller for semi truck axle parts did not budge the stock pitman arm. so out came the plasma cutter. we got it off without damaging the seal in the steering box or the threads.

neither my mechanic (who works on my semi trucks) or myself had ever done major auto suspension work and definately not a lift. at times the install got frustrating and i did throw a couple tools. all in all we got it done in a weekend and if you take out the time running after tools, hardware, food, and the 5 hours dicking around with the pitman arm we probablty accomplished this in 12 hours.

I know, its supposed to be 4-6 hours. well if you have done a couple of these and are 100% familiar with all of the parts and componets, maybe. but for first timers (even with mechanical experience) plan on a weekend or a long saturday.

i have alot more pics so ask if you wanna see anythign in particular. i tries to take pics of the different stages of tear down and install. the first 2 are before (sunny) and after (dreary) the others are just some close ups of componets and the plasma cutter getting into the pitman arm.

i will do a review, but so far ive been driving it for a week and it is great. no driveline vibration or DW. it wants to go right a little, btu an alignment will clear that up. I got the 9000 nitro shocks and the ride is exactly like my 3/4 ton HD pickup. STIFF.

i'll get her flexing ASAP.

Thanks
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Old 03-06-2011, 10:49 AM   #2
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here is the front axle put together and on the ground in case antyone gives a damn
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Old 03-06-2011, 02:58 PM   #3
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There always seems to be a component or stuck bolt that can make life miserable! I don't know how long I spent on my LJ lift in all but once I finished it and put the wheels on, I noticed that the front was sitting much lower than the back. I drove it for a few days and I couldn't stand the look so I ordered 3/4" spacers. I had to take the whole front end apart to install the spacers. What a pain! At least the bolts came off easy and it sits level now.
I need to lift my TJ this summer, I may look for a kit that doesn't mess with the pitman arm. LOL!
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How much did you spend of everything? I have a LJ as well and wanna put a 4" lift as well? Did you put a new rear drive shaft or not needed for our jeeps since we got longer drive shafts.
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i spent $1100 after tax and a transfer case drop. i did not buy the SYE or CV driveshaft and so far everything seems fine. I dont have any driveline vibration at any speed.

i will spend a little more and get a professional alignment. it over steers to the right but it is managable until i get it to the alignment shop.

depending on how mechanical you are and who can help you, i highjly recomend this kit. 4" does make a difference in the ride and how it drives. I sit higher than HD pickups which is pretty bad ass, but i can also feel the body roll.

you don't have to spend 1000 to get 4 inches, but i got everythign i needed to keep the front end aligned and tracking/ steering properly.

My kit also allows me to go up to an 8" lift because the trackbar, and upper and lower control arms are all adjustable! not sure if i'd do 8" of short arm lift, but i do like the flexibility and the fact that i can fine-tune the suspension.

rough country is great to deal with also. the customer support is great. I had some bad threads in one of the control arms (still worked, just a pain in the ass to adjust) and they sent me a brand new one free of charge and free shipping. it was at my door in 3 days!
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There always seems to be a component or stuck bolt that can make life miserable! I don't know how long I spent on my LJ lift in all but once I finished it and put the wheels on, I noticed that the front was sitting much lower than the back. I drove it for a few days and I couldn't stand the look so I ordered 3/4" spacers. I had to take the whole front end apart to install the spacers. What a pain! At least the bolts came off easy and it sits level now.
I need to lift my TJ this summer, I may look for a kit that doesn't mess with the pitman arm. LOL!

i notice that mine also sits up in the rear also. i'm so exhausted from everything going on that i haven't given it much thought. now that you mention it, though, i will have to do the same probably! lol
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manny,
i spent $1100 after tax and a transfer case drop. i did not buy the SYE or CV driveshaft and so far everything seems fine. I dont have any driveline vibration at any speed.

i will spend a little more and get a professional alignment. it over steers to the right but it is managable until i get it to the alignment shop.

depending on how mechanical you are and who can help you, i highjly recomend this kit. 4" does make a difference in the ride and how it drives. I sit higher than HD pickups which is pretty bad ass, but i can also feel the body roll.

you don't have to spend 1000 to get 4 inches, but i got everythign i needed to keep the front end aligned and tracking/ steering properly.

My kit also allows me to go up to an 8" lift because the trackbar, and upper and lower control arms are all adjustable! not sure if i'd do 8" of short arm lift, but i do like the flexibility and the fact that i can fine-tune the suspension.

rough country is great to deal with also. the customer support is great. I had some bad threads in one of the control arms (still worked, just a pain in the ass to adjust) and they sent me a brand new one free of charge and free shipping. it was at my door in 3 days!
Did you buy it from the rough country website or other one that sells their stuff? Also did you have to add to the brake lines? But pretty much the kit you brought came with everything needed didn't have to buy anything else? I wanna do a 4" lift not going to do any serious off roading just for looks and a weekend trail rides still want the 4 inch height in case i go in deep water I have 4" more extra inches.
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i bought my kit from a local authorized dealer. i i didnt have to pay shipping that way. although, some sites offer free shipping on orders over 1k$ the brake lines came with the kit, but you can find extended lines for $50-$150. If you don't need the versatility of adjustable control arms you can pay 500-600 and get a similar kit. whatever you do, make sure that you get the adjustable front track bar if you go 4" or more. also, you will need a transfer case drop kit (50 bucks) or a SYE and CV drive shaft (300 for sye, 250 for driveshaft) the sye and shaft is the better route. the slip yoke on a np231 is a weakness and lift or not a SYE is a beneifical part. if you do any off roading the tc and driveline are gonna be stressed because of the slip yoke and how it works. i am gonna get the sye and a tom woods driveline soon.

go to jeep4x4center.com and look up rough country lifts. they seem to have the best proce for what you get. or go to quadratec.com. they dont sell RC but they have alot of good deals and good customer support. jeepcenter.com has free shipping on orders over 1000
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SYE kit here if you want one for $220 shipped.

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220 shipped? damn. i dont see how i can pass on that. you know i live in ohio, right?

what condition?
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220 shipped? damn. i dont see how i can pass on that. you know i live in ohio, right?

what condition?


sorry i didnt realize that was a link. i'll call in on friday. thanks
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sorry i didnt realize that was a link. i'll call in on friday. thanks
Cool! But if you order it on Thursday I can get it out on Friday.

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don't forget to check clearances at full bump front and rear to determine how much bumpstop you need...



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lifts looking good, i'm buying a rough country lift soon. are there any new shoes in the future?
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definately new shoes. the current rubber is a 31"x9.5x15 firestone destination. they have 80% tread and ride nice on the highway. .

I want some 33x10.5 on seperate rims to switch out for wheelin. been doin some research and shopping but havent made up my mind.
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so help a newbie out. how do i do that? and is there a typical measurement for my vehicle and amount of lift?

i'm guessing i need to articulate the axle until the trackbar is about to hit the differential then add some bump to keep it from going any further
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so help a newbie out. how do i do that? and is there a typical measurement for my vehicle and amount of lift?

i'm guessing i need to articulate the axle until the trackbar is about to hit the differential then add some bump to keep it from going any further
not articulate - you need to remove the springs and push the entire axle to full bump...so both sides are fully compressed.

watch for the track bar hitting the tie-rod and the diff cover. that huge track bar bracket has a pretty good likelyhood for hitting the tie-rod.

you need to add enough bumpstop extension to prevent anything from hitting.

also check the shocks, and their length. make sure the shocks are not bottoming out. you'll need to measure the fully compressed length (or get it from the manufacturer). for 4" of lift, 15.5" is fairly common. this requires at least 2" bumpstop extension.
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that is great help. i check out your link provided on bumpstop measurments. i also sent you a PM on a kinda-related issue. maybe you can help me out.

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