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Old 03-04-2012, 04:26 AM   #1
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$600 to change rear seal?

I was given an estimate of $600 to change my rear seal by a shop that specializes in jeep repair. I do have my own lift and the ability to do it myself, however I do not have the time that I think this will take. Does this sound like too much to you guys and should I get another estimate? If $600 is considered 'fair' I really don't want the hassle of doing it myself as I have heard that removing the exhaust from the headers to drop the oil pan is a real bear. It is a 4.0 automatic, 2003 Sport.

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For the main rear seal that is high for my area. I think I last time I checked, within the last year it was $350-$400. Is the shop a general repair shop or a 4x4 shop?

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Old 03-04-2012, 07:06 AM   #3
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It is a well known 4wd place. I don't want to throw them under the bus by mentioning their name because I know everyone on here knows them and has bought parts from them.
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Removing the exhaust isn't bad, putting it back up if you are all by your lonesome is tricky :-)

Before I did mine, I checked around, most places here wanted ~500
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OHIO I paid 621.00 and well worth it. Included oil change and filter.
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If its a small leak I wouldn't worry about getting it done. Just drive it and make sure there's oil in it. But if it needs replaced then i would check around at other maybe smaller shops and see what they will charge you. I do agree that for the cost its worth paying somebody to do it instead of doing it yourself though.
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It is a VERY small leak. Bought it 3 months ago and still do not have to add oil. I guess im just a bit picky about leaks.
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I've got a 98 TJ and the rear main seal leaks. Not much, but it does leak. From what I've read on the forum it's not that big of a deal unless it's really pouring out. I've done nothing with mine and so far no problem.

I have 2 Jeeps and I bought a lift for my shop so we could handle a lot of our repairs/oil change etc. I put my 98 on the lift and found the oil filter was leaking (the oil and filter was changed by the local Chrysler/Jeep dealer) so that tells me you really need to double check everybody's work.
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Anyone know how many hours for an experienced mechanic?
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Old 03-04-2012, 04:26 PM   #11
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I had my rear main seal done yesterday because i had a small leak from it. I also have heard its not a big deal but i dont like having oil stains in my garage/driveway. I got it done by my mechanic i always go to for $200 here in San Diego, CA. Pep boys wanted to charge me 700. So i got lucky with that deal. Replaced RMS and put oil back in for that price. I just had an oil change like 3 weeks prior to replacing the RMS of synthetic oil and thats when it started leaking. I had the jeep for about a week before i did the oil change and im guessing the PO didnt use synthetic. Some people do believe if you use synthetic you will find little leaks but i dont know much about that. Others have also said to use High Milage oil because it helps seal up little leaks. I'm not sure about that either. But i did hit 75k 2 days ago so i will be using high mileage oil now.
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Yea I have a local mechanic that does great work. He owns the shop and basically charges 50 an hour. He charged me 200 to install my lift, steering stabilizer, and install and weld track bar bracket.
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Anyone know how many hours for an experienced mechanic?
Took mine 3-4 hours
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Yea I have a local mechanic that does great work. He owns the shop and basically charges 50 an hour. He charged me 200 to install my lift, steering stabilizer, and install and weld track bar bracket.
if you have everything you need under the jeep with you before hand, and maybe have someone with you to fetch tools and such it shouldn't take too long.. drain oil, drop oil pan 11mm and 13mm bolts hold it on, id recommend using deep socket as some of them have studs, the 13mm bolts are on the front corner and the rear up by the main seal itself.. slide oil pan out which you might be able to do without dropping the exhaust, but i could be wrong, ive never dropped a pan on a tj before.. next, remove the main bearing girdle nuts.. should be 14 of them, remove the girdle itself, remove the 2 bolts holding the rear main bearing cap on, take out the seal half from the cap, and then the upper half will come out one way (cant remember which direction) put a little bit of oil on the new seal so it will slide in nicely.. reinstall everything in reverse order, be sure to mind your torque specs on the bearing cap bolts, and the girdle nuts.. for torque pattern on the girdle i just start from the center and work my way out.. though it probably doesnt matter with that.

Should only take an hour or two..

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Mechanics go by the book so make sure that shop ins't thinking it is a one piece seal which necessitates moving the transmission out of the way; I think the 4 cylinder is this way. I got quoted 5-6 hours if that was the case and 2-3 if not.

Obviously the price will be different so make sure they know it is a two piece seal and quoted the correct book price. It should be no more than $350. I think I know the place you are talking about and they also quoted me the wrong price so ask them again.
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I had my rear main seal done yesterday because i had a small leak from it. I also have heard its not a big deal but i dont like having oil stains in my garage/driveway. I got it done by my mechanic i always go to for $200 here in San Diego, CA. Pep boys wanted to charge me 700. So i got lucky with that deal. Replaced RMS and put oil back in for that price. I just had an oil change like 3 weeks prior to replacing the RMS of synthetic oil and thats when it started leaking. I had the jeep for about a week before i did the oil change and im guessing the PO didnt use synthetic. Some people do believe if you use synthetic you will find little leaks but i dont know much about that. Others have also said to use High Milage oil because it helps seal up little leaks. I'm not sure about that either. But i did hit 75k 2 days ago so i will be using high mileage oil now.
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Heading to San Diego in July so if you could PM me your Mech. That would be awesome. I also have a very small leak so I will prob look into getting it fixed this summer.
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Old 03-04-2012, 06:10 PM   #17
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Oh yeah! They were well aware that it is a 2 piece seal. Still told me 6-7 hours. You know the whole "If it don't feel right" thing? That's why I got on here to ask the PROS!! Thanks guys.
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definitely not a 6-7 hour job, and even moreso with mechanics who have probably done it a few dozen times before. I believe the book calls for dropping the transmission though. It seems like a daunting or scary task buts actually pretty easy, if you have the tools and time and no physical disabilities that would prevent you from being able to do it, anyone here would be able to just fine
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like everyone said, 600 is pretty high. I got 2 quotes, 350 from a small mechanic and 450 from a Jeep specialty shop. I still have not had it done, since it's a small leak and not causing any problems. I was able to see mine was leaking right at the bottom of the seal. I thought it was worth a try and put some high temp RTV around the area. It hasn't leaked yet.
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if you have everything you need under the jeep with you before hand, and maybe have someone with you to fetch tools and such it shouldn't take too long.. drain oil, drop oil pan 11mm and 13mm bolts hold it on, id recommend using deep socket as some of them have studs, the 13mm bolts are on the front corner and the rear up by the main seal itself.. slide oil pan out which you might be able to do without dropping the exhaust, but i could be wrong, ive never dropped a pan on a tj before.. next, remove the main bearing girdle nuts.. should be 14 of them, remove the girdle itself, remove the 2 bolts holding the rear main bearing cap on, take out the seal half from the cap, and then the upper half will come out one way (cant remember which direction) put a little bit of oil on the new seal so it will slide in nicely.. reinstall everything in reverse order, be sure to mind your torque specs on the bearing cap bolts, and the girdle nuts.. for torque pattern on the girdle i just start from the center and work my way out.. though it probably doesnt matter with that.

Should only take an hour or two..

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I have a 99 4.0 with 5 speed, did it myself in just a few hours. No way would I pay somebody hundreds of dollars. Sounds like you are set up having your own lift, that will make it nice.
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Old 03-05-2012, 09:34 AM   #21
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Absolutely have the setup as well as the tools. Just not the ambition!
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Old 03-05-2012, 10:41 AM   #22
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most chains, specialists and dealerships go by the book as far as time to charge you plus parts. a local mechanic is in competition with all these places and isnt usually going to charge you as much. a jeep 4.0 is a very common, any mechanic should be able to do a good job at a fair price unless you are talking the wyotech or lincoln tech sped that just graduated yesterday and i use that term loosely as some are good
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I have a 99 4.0 with 5 speed, did it myself in just a few hours. No way would I pay somebody hundreds of dollars. Sounds like you are set up having your own lift, that will make it nice.
Lol only lift I have is the one on my Jeep.. granted that makes it easier as I can change it without jacking the Jeep up. I just recommend you use good socket extensions, I had a 1/2" drive 6" long extension with a deep well socket fall from about 2 feet above me and almost hit me in the eye.... twice... :-( it hurts thinking about it
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I spent $380...installed the RMS, valve cover, oil pan gasket, oil change, cleaned the motor up, and installed my spark plugs.
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I just had mine done on my 99 TJ. $450 in Denver Colorado by a highly recommended shop.
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This is why I enjoy working on my own Jeep, the price a new rear seal is only $15.00. I realize everybody is not mechanically inclined to take on this project, if you are not get one of your body's that is. But there are those with lots of cash in hand and would just prefer to pay somebody......
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This is why I enjoy working on my own Jeep, the price a new rear seal is only $15.00. I realize everybody is not mechanically inclined to take on this project, if you are not get one of your body's that is. But there are those with lots of cash in hand and would just prefer to pay somebody......

I would have loved to have worked on it myself. But due to me not having many friends that are mechanically inclined nor have all the tools to get this job done. Plus im leaving for deployment this week. So didnt have anytime to do it either. So i kind of just got stuck with having to pay
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I would have loved to have worked on it myself. But due to me not having many friends that are mechanically inclined nor have all the tools to get this job done. Plus im leaving for deployment this week. So didnt have anytime to do it either. So i kind of just got stuck with having to pay

I would have done mine myself, but I'm in the same situation...I just don't have a garage to work on the Jeep. When it warms up, then I can do my own stuff, but in the winter...not so much. Easier to pay this go round.
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Sounds to me like you guys should join a local Jeep Club that has wrench nights and trail days.
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Absolutely have the setup as well as the tools. Just not the ambition!
Also there is usually a bit of a fudge factor in there due to things not always going the way they are supposed to. All it takes is for one crappy bolt on the exhaust to ruin your day and drive the time way up.

I will say that based on the number of hours posted by some folks on here that the number of gee whiz top notch mechanics in one place has rarely been exceeded.

I've got one of my own right now that's just starting to seep and anyone that wants to whip on by and knock it out in a couple of hours for 150 bucks is right up there on top of my list of favorite people. I'll supply all the parts and tools you could ever need to get the job done.

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