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Old 05-08-2012, 08:42 PM   #1
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8.8 Gear oil?

Bought a 8.8 from ECGS with factory limited slip and they recommend 75w140 but not using synthetic gear oil. The Royal Purple has friction additive already in it but it's synthetic. Has anyone tried Royal Purple 74w140? If so any problems?
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The RP is okay but I'm siding with ECGS on recommending a conventional GL-5 gear lube. Tests by some axle manufacturers like Currie have found the ring & pinion gears run cooler with conventional gear lubes when heavily loaded.

Personally I'd go with Valvoline 85W-140 or similar from others like Castrol, Havoline, etc. Just make sure it says it is compatible with limited slip differentials which means it has the required friction modifier. Or if it doesn't just add a small bottle of friction modifier.

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I've been to 4 different auto parts stores including Autozone, O'reily's, and 2 Advance Auto. The only gear oil they had 3 qrts of was the Royal Purple in 74w140 and 75w90 and Valvoline 75w140.
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I've been to 4 different auto parts stores including Autozone, O'reily's, and 2 Advance Auto. The only gear oil they had 3 qrts of was the Royal Purple in 74w140 and 75w90 and Valvoline 75w140.
Was the Valvoline you found synthetic or conventional?
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The Valvoline was conventional, but I was unsure about going with the brand.
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I ended up going with Lucas 85w140 conventional with Trans-x additive.
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In my 8.8 from ECGS I have always used Valvoline 80W-90 conventional w/ limited slip. Never had an issue.
Used it because it was all Auto Zone had in 4 bottles lol.
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I would use the conventional Lucas that ECGS recomends
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I would use the conventional Lucas that ECGS recomends
ECGS only recommended a conventional gear lube, they never mentioned Lucas.
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The Valvoline was conventional, but I was unsure about going with the brand.
What? Valvoline has a sterling reputation. You can never go wrong with any of Valvoline's lubricants.
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What? Valvoline has a sterling reputation. You can never go wrong with any of Valvoline's lubricants.
Yep, I've got a few bottles of it myself sitting beside the 8.8 just waiting to be installed.
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GEAR OIL: THESE AXLES ARE SHIPPED WITH ASSEMBLY LUBE ONLY. FAILURE TO ADD GEAR OIL WILL CAUSE IMMEDIATE FAILURE AND BE VERY EVIDENT. ALWAYS FILL FROM FACTORY FILL HOLE NOT AFTERMARKET COVER FILL HOLE. We recommend Lucas 75w/140 gear oil, Lucas 80w/90 gear oil is also acceptable. We do not recommend synthetic fluids. IF you have a factory limited slip or any clutch style limited slip a limited slip additive will need to be added. TRANS-X makes a good additive that is available at any auto parts store and we also have it available for purchase.
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I wouldn't get hung up on brands. Any quality conventional oil should be fine, just make sure you add the proper additive if you have a LS.
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Seems odd that they would not reccommend synthetic fluids. Why would less friction result in more heat? I don't buy it.
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Seems odd that they would not reccommend synthetic fluids. Why would less friction result in more heat? I don't buy it.
As Jerry already mentioned, Currie has done tests that have shown conventional oil to do a much better job at sinking heat. I believe he has mentioned previously how they found the synthetic oil itself to run much cooler because it doesn't sink heat from the gears as well, thus the gears themselves actually run hotter with it.
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Ok, if they say so.
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Not saying anyone here should do X or Y, just simply stating what I've read. You can always do your own testing.

The way I look at it, is others like Currie put their vehicles through much more abuse than I ever will (KoH for one). If they have found conventional to be better for some reason, who am I to argue?
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ECGS says to use dino gear oil. For warranty purposes use dino gear oil.
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GEAR OIL: THESE AXLES ARE SHIPPED WITH ASSEMBLY LUBE ONLY. FAILURE TO ADD GEAR OIL WILL CAUSE IMMEDIATE FAILURE AND BE VERY EVIDENT. ALWAYS FILL FROM FACTORY FILL HOLE NOT AFTERMARKET COVER FILL HOLE. We recommend Lucas 75w/140 gear oil, Lucas 80w/90 gear oil is also acceptable. We do not recommend synthetic fluids. IF you have a factory limited slip or any clutch style limited slip a limited slip additive will need to be added. TRANS-X makes a good additive that is available at any auto parts store and we also have it available for purchase.
^^This is basically what Chase at ECGS told me when I ordered my 8.8... He also went on to say whatever I do DON'T use Royal Purple just use a quality Dino oil and change it regularly. BTW, 3.75-4.0qts.
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I spoke with a guy a ECGS and was told that while Synthetic Oil does run cooler, the gears run hotter with it than with conventional oil. He said Synthetic Oil was too thin.
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I spoke with a guy a ECGS and was told that while Synthetic Oil does run cooler, the gears run hotter with it than with conventional oil. He said Synthetic Oil was too thin.
Stick with conventional oil.
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GEAR OIL: THESE AXLES ARE SHIPPED WITH ASSEMBLY LUBE ONLY. FAILURE TO ADD GEAR OIL WILL CAUSE IMMEDIATE FAILURE AND BE VERY EVIDENT. ALWAYS FILL FROM FACTORY FILL HOLE NOT AFTERMARKET COVER FILL HOLE. We recommend Lucas 75w/140 gear oil, Lucas 80w/90 gear oil is also acceptable. We do not recommend synthetic fluids. IF you have a factory limited slip or any clutch style limited slip a limited slip additive will need to be added. TRANS-X makes a good additive that is available at any auto parts store and we also have it available for purchase.
Lucas 75w/140 gear is SYNTHETIC.. NO???
did you mean 85W-140 instead??
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Lucas 75w/140 gear is SYNTHETIC.. NO???
did you mean 85W-140 instead??
You replied to a 2 1/2 year old thread. Yes it is better to use a good quality conventional gear lube in an axle and the exact gear lube viscosity is not critical so long as it is close.
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What additive would I need specifically? I had an 8.8 put in and Detroit Truetrac LSDs installed front and back. I am not sure if anything special was put in. Could anything bad have happened yet if I put on about 2k miles since with all of it on road?

This?

http://www.amazon.com/Red-Line-80301...VZ8X6C5A826MJ7

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You replied to a 2 1/2 year old thread. Yes it is better to use a good quality conventional gear lube in an axle and the exact gear lube viscosity is not critical so long as it is close.
I understand I was replying to a 2 1/2 year old thread... Just wanted to ask and verify that the Lucas 75W-140 (as far as I know) is SYNTHETIC... Are you saying that 2 1/2 years ago it wasn't??

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