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Old 10-18-2012, 10:43 PM   #1
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99 Sahara, first time buyer, is it a good deal?

Hello,
Found this 99 Sahara. Have been looking for probably over half a year, and this one is pretty damn close to my ideal one. It is green, five speed, and not insanely over priced. It also is 98-02. I have some pictures I will try and upload, but this is the basic info.

-99 Sahara, soft top, 107k miles. 5 speed.
-Completely stock, never off road, owned by this girls Aunt and is trying to sell it for her.
-From the pictures, the seats are in fantastic condition, they have had sheep skin covers on them it looks like their entire life.
-Has a spare tire, looks like the rims aren't stock.
The not so good
-Front fog lights are gone. The woman says she has one but the other got ripped off long ago. However, the switch for them is on the dash, so I am assuming I wouldn't have to re wire anything.
-She says the throw out bearing rattles a bit but the clutch is good. There is an exhaust leak(minor, waiting for more information) and the tires are at about 60%.
Looks like one of the door hinges was replaced, however it is a clean title.

I asked for a pic of the rear differential to see if it has the Dana 44, and if it has speakers on the roll bar. Now, for my questions!

It does not have the two switches for the rear wiper and defroster for a hardtop wired up. How much of a pain is it to do this and run all the appropriate things to the back, and how much would it cost?

Second, how much for either OEM or other pair of decent fog lights, and how much of a pain again to install?

Third, it doesn't have a CD radio. It seems like a pretty well optioned Sahara, anything you guys can tell that it didn't come with(other than the hardtop)??

Will upload pics now, thanks a lot guys! Also, they are asking $6500, which seems like a steal. Only problem is it is about 300 miles away, so what I was going to do was fly in and meet them and drive it back. Thoughts?

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Here are some, more on the way.
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And the last few I have atm.
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I'm pretty sure it has a 3.07 gear with a dana 35. It looks stock but a good jeep all around. CD player is easy to change. Fog lights would take you about 16 mins to wire up. U just pull that middle dash off and you can wore the lights. New CD player (get one that plays pandora in and iPhone I dot know what I would do without it lol). As for the hard top stuff. It's not to hard to get it all wired up maybe take a weekend to do it all if u even have a hard top to install. Just need to buy some switches check out daystar rocket switches they look nice and fit perfectly in the mount. For price it depends on what stuff u want just look on ebay for factory stuff it's cheaper if u want the oem parts
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I'm pretty sure it has a 3.07 gear with a dana 35. It looks stock but a good jeep all around. CD player is easy to change. Fog lights would take you about 16 mins to wire up. U just pull that middle dash off and you can wore the lights. New CD player (get one that plays pandora in and iPhone I dot know what I would do without it lol). As for the hard top stuff. It's not to hard to get it all wired up maybe take a weekend to do it all if u even have a hard top to install. Just need to buy some switches check out daystar rocket switches they look nice and fit perfectly in the mount. For price it depends on what stuff u want just look on ebay for factory stuff it's cheaper if u want the oem parts
Thanks for the help!
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Old 10-18-2012, 11:20 PM   #6
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I'd get some pics of the engine and drivetrain before going all that way to buy it...a vid of it running wouldn't hurt either. The exhaust leak could be a cracked header which is common or just a rusted out catback but you won't know until you get there. It sure looks pretty in the pics good find bro.
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I'd get some pics of the engine and drivetrain before going all that way to buy it...a vid of it running wouldn't hurt either. The exhaust leak could be a cracked header which is common or just a rusted out catback but you won't know until you get there. It sure looks pretty in the pics good find bro.

Dur...didn't even think about that. I was so excited I found one that wasn't trashed and pretty cheap I totally forgot. Thanks for reminding me. Think the price is good or I should drop it a little for the things I would have to fix?
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It's a good price, I think that's the blue book price just check the car fax to see if t was crashed. But never buy anything sticker price. Everyone always asks for more so they can take less. Knock it down at least 500$ so u feel like u won ! But if u pay what they are asking its a reasonable price for the TJ
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Decent price, beautiful Jeep very clean, you will not regret it trust me buying a 4.0 L Sahara is borderline Godly hahaha, nice find good luck mate! -Damian
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^I'll see if I can get i under6k if I manage to get that far!

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Decent price, beautiful Jeep very clean, you will not regret it trust me buying a 4.0 L Sahara is borderline Godly hahaha, nice find good luck mate! -Damian
Thanks man, I thought it was a good find too. I really can't tell the difference between this one and a 2000-2002, I am assuming they are all more or less the same?
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^I'll see if I can get i under6k if I manage to get that far!
Thanks man, I thought it was a good find too. I really can't tell the difference between this one and a 2000-2002, I am assuming they are all more or less the same?

If the jeep is in mechanical good condition and the top is in good shape that is a good price for the TJ. Sahara's get you cruise and a/c which isn't really standard on other models. Plus the seats are cool...IMO

I have a '99 as well. The main differences in between a '99 and say a '00 is in the drivetrain. '99 was the last year from a distributor engine, '00 they went to a coil "rail". Also around this time they switched to a nv3550 over the ax15. The transition for this stuff is a bit hazy but all happened around this time.

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Old 10-19-2012, 09:23 AM   #12
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I just bought a black 98 sahara and I love it. I do believe that the rims are actually stock (I have the same ones). The seller told me it wasn't taken offroad (and I believe him because it was clean and had no aftermarket mods). I got mine with more miles (and also a year older) for $6500 so I think your getting a pretty good deal, especially if you can get $500 knocked off. Like someone else said, get it and you won't be disappointed!!
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I'm pretty sure it has a 3.07 gear with a dana 35. It looks stock but a good jeep all around. CD player is easy to change. Fog lights would take you about 16 mins to wire up. U just pull that middle dash off and you can wore the lights. New CD player (get one that plays pandora in and iPhone I dot know what I would do without it lol). As for the hard top stuff. It's not to hard to get it all wired up maybe take a weekend to do it all if u even have a hard top to install. Just need to buy some switches check out daystar rocket switches they look nice and fit perfectly in the mount. For price it depends on what stuff u want just look on ebay for factory stuff it's cheaper if u want the oem parts
How can you assume that the rig has 3.07s and a D35? Nothing in those pictures indicate that dreadful combo. OP, check it out for yourself or post some pics of the rear differential.
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Dempsey, any pros or cons to those? Don't really mind the distributor! And yes, the seats are badass looking.

She is sending me a pic of the rear dif today along with the engine bay and a few other things. She says there is a crack in the exhaust manifold, unfortunately. Will post pics when I get them.
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Dempsey, any pros or cons to those? Don't really mind the distributor! And yes, the seats are badass looking.

She is sending me a pic of the rear dif today along with the engine bay and a few other things. She says there is a crack in the exhaust manifold, unfortunately. Will post pics when I get them.
Dizzy motors are a little less picky on spark plugs but overall pretty similar. I have had both engines tore apart. Buddy is running a combo (best of both). Only negative to a '99 is it is a 1 year motor when it comes to direct replacements but TJ engines are that way pretty much anyway. It is a distributor but a lot of it is computer controlled..more so than a '97 from what I've read. Run into cam options. They say the newer heads are prone to cracking more so than the '99 and older...whatever thats worth. You also have less emissions on a '99 than a '01.

I'd say playing the %'s it will have a d35 and 3.07 gears as already stated but if regearing is part of jeepin'.
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Dizzy motors are a little less picky on spark plugs but overall pretty similar. I have had both engines tore apart. Buddy is running a combo (best of both). Only negative to a '99 is it is a 1 year motor when it comes to direct replacements but TJ engines are that way pretty much anyway. It is a distributor but a lot of it is computer controlled..more so than a '97 from what I've read. Run into cam options. They say the newer heads are prone to cracking more so than the '99 and older...whatever thats worth. You also have less emissions on a '99 than a '01.

I'd say playing the %'s it will have a d35 and 3.07 gears as already stated but if regearing is part of jeepin'.
Don't really care about emissions. My current DD is a 76 Corvette I restored in high school with my dad, not too worried about emissions and MPG, all the people around here in Oregon who drive their Prius's and 4banger Subarus make up for the horrible mpg I get

Reading about the rear axle and gearing, it is obvious people prefer the Dana44. However, I don't really plan on off roading too much. I do plan on taking it to some fishing spots and through the passes when I drive back to California to visit, but nothing extreme. Assuming it does have the d35, should I pass it up, or keep looking? How much would it cost to get regeared? Not really a big 4x4 guy, have spent most of my life with cars mostly trying to make them go faster and faster!
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No dont pass it up if it has a dana 35 since your not planning on offroading like crazy. It could have 3.73 gears. If it has a towin package thats probably what the gears are. You should be fine with the 3.07. You can search the internet for an axle identification chart and you'll know right then what type of axle ya got before asking also hopefully your differential wont be leaking. I would definately test drive it. When you do run it hard.
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Don't worry about either the 35 or the gears. Just things to think about. Tons of people wheel lifted tj's with the 35 and don't have trouble.
Regear cost about $1500 plus lockers, if desired.
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Don't worry about either the 35 or the gears. Just things to think about. Tons of people wheel lifted tj's with the 35 and don't have trouble.
Regear cost about $1500 plus lockers, if desired.
Thanks. Should have pics of the rear dif and engine bay today, post em when I do! Thanks a lot too guys, really helping me out!
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Here are the dif pics! What are they??

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Its a Dana 35. Looks like the tag says 3.73.
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I'm confused I thought Sahara's come standard with d44..??
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I haven't heard that. Im not sure but thats not a dana 44. Rounded cover and rubber fill plug.
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I haven't heard that. Im not sure but thats not a dana 44. Rounded cover and rubber fill plug.
Bummer. I thought the 35's were geared with a 3.07 and not the 3.73??
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Mine came with a trac lock Dana 35 with 3.73's. mines an auto tho. Not sure what all they put in the 5 speeds. It looks like the tag has 3.73 but I'm not positive.
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Mine came with a trac lock Dana 35 with 3.73's. mines an auto tho. Not sure what all they put in the 5 speeds. It looks like the tag has 3.73 but I'm not positive.
Happen to know if the trac locks generally came with the Sahara models or was it an option you had to opt for?

Also, being a jeep newby, I thought only the 44's were geared in the 3.73, and the 35s were 3.07. Am I wrong?
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Ah, that helped quite a bit, thank you! Now I am confused. If the rear ratio had multiple options, why the love for the 44?
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The love for the Dana 44 does not come from the gear ratios. The Dana 44 is a lot stronger and more reliable then the Dana 35. You can do research for days on this subject. Lol
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Jesus that rear needs some TLC

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