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Old 03-14-2012, 08:28 AM   #1
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A few general questions now that I've owned the Rubi for a few months

Well it's been about 2 months and about 3500 miles since I bought the 05 Rubi and I have a few basic questions for you all (hope they make sense)...

1. I've read that when the gas light comes on you have 4 gallons left or around 50 isk miles til empty. Um... what happens if as soon as the light turns on the gas gauge is close to E... well sitting right on E? Should I ignore that and just follow the 4 gallon "rule" or fill up right away?

2. Does the rear wiper spray motor go out often or is that a common thing? My rear wiper works, but the sprayer does not.

3. Is there any way to fix the speed control for the HVAC? Speeds 1-3 seem all the same (and low at that) and 4 is full blast. I don't mind it I suppose as I usually have it set on speed 4.

4. Summer is fast approaching and I'm really itching to take the top off (it's been in the 60's up here in Detroit the last couple of days and for the next couple of days it's also suppose to be in the 60's). My question is mainly for the apartment people... do you take your top and doors off in the morning and put it all back on at night? Or do you just use a tub cover or whatever you call it?

Thanx in advance! All in all I'm quite happy with my purchase and love my Jeep (I still haven't had a chance to wheel it, but hopefully in the next couple weeks that will change...)... well besides the gas mileage, but hey it's the most aerodynamic 4 wheeled cinderblock (with a periscope...) driving around. Oh and the Jeep wave is always fun to give and receive (the modified Subie community as the same thing, but not on the same level as the Jeep community). Thanx again!

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Old 03-14-2012, 08:34 AM   #2
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You really don't want the gas light to come on as it allows more of a chance for the fuel pump to suck in sediment into the injectors. Just has up when it comes on, or just before the light comes on.

A couple of things could be bad with the HVAC. Have you tried taking the knob off to see if it is the knob that is broken? If not, more likely it is the blower motor and that is a very easy to replace.

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1. My advice: Never let it drop below half. You never know when you'll need that extra fuel.

2. It shouldn't. Have someone near the spray nozzle when you try to activate it, and see if they can hear it working. Also, check for a separate resovoir somewhere in the back of the vehicle.

3. If there is, I don't know it, check the technical forum.

4. If you're going to leave it off, see to having power and fuel pump cutoff switches installed. And get a locking hood latch. And DO NOT under any circumstances EVER, leave anything of value in your Jeep.

5. I think you may have just turned this into a wave thread.
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:38 AM   #4
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I can answer at least the first question. When my gas light comes on, it is pretty close to E on the dash. Usually it fills full with 15 gallons, so yes there is 4 gallons left typically. I don't usually go by the gas light though. Usually I try to fill up around 200 miles on the tank.

As for the HVAC, I had that issue on my last TJ and it control knob was broken. You can pull it right off and see. Mine was turning, but not actually switching the speeds(if that makes sense). Take the knob off and turn it with pliers to see if that changes the speeds.
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Check your blower motor resistor too. If it is basically off or full blast that could be the issue. $10 and an hour will fix that.
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:52 AM   #6
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2. If there isnt enough fluid in the windsheild washer fluid tank the rear sprayer wont work but the front ones still will. Also check to see if the line is hooked up correctly or at all.
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1. Should I ignore that and just follow the 4 gallon "rule" or fill up right away?
Fill up right away-because if your fuel guage sending unit is off just a little bit, you MAY be actual out! (my son's jeep does that, mine does not)

2. Does the rear wiper spray motor go out often or is that a common thing? My rear wiper works, but the sprayer does not.
Already answered-once the cleaner jug gets too low, it won't suck up for the back wiper, only the front. Keep it full.

3. Is there any way to fix the speed control for the HVAC? Speeds 1-3 seem all the same (and low at that) and 4 is full blast. I don't mind it I suppose as I usually have it set on speed 4.
Very typical and well known defect in the resistor for the switch/blower. Happens to all of them pretty much-yours is now 7 years old-most auto parts store will have it. My son can replace them in 20 minutes.

4. Summer is fast approaching and I'm really itching to take the top off (it's been in the 60's up here in Detroit the last couple of days and for the next couple of days it's also suppose to be in the 60's). My question is mainly for the apartment people... do you take your top and doors off in the morning and put it all back on at night? Or do you just use a tub cover or whatever you call it?
I'm not an apartment dweller-but because of neighborhood cats, we always have to put the soft top up for the evening.

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holy fast replies batman! Thanx all.

For the most part I do fill up when the light comes on, but in some cases I do wait til the last second. I do have to note, I'm not a huge fan of the dreaded gas geyser that shoots out at the end of fill up at the station. Granted I've since adjusted to slowly pumping towards full, but it definitely threw me off the first couple of times.

I've looked for a second tank in the rear and am unable to find one. There are two pumps and a line running to the back though on the main tank. Oh and the tank is full and the lines are all connected (as far as I can tell).

Could anything of been "damaged" when I was swapping over to the LED HVAC lights?

The original owner included the OEM soft top and a bikini top... however I'm assuming the frameless soft tops will be easier and faster to put on rather than the OEM soft top... is my assumption true? Oh and yes I do lock everything away and put the iVault top on the stereo every night. That's the first thing I got into the habit of doing esp since I found out Jeeps had been getting broken into the night before I bought mine (which is surprising because I live in an "upscale" complex haha). They have since caught the two men doing it though... woohoo!

Last question for now and forgot to post... when would you replace the clutch and would you upgrade to a stage 2 or higher? I know it's no racecar, but my thought was it would help when wheeling? The clutch currently has 111150 miles on it.

Not to turn it into another Jeep wave thread, but I have noticed the wave verys from owner to owner and there are pretty much four categories of wavers.

The "ignore it" (JK and TJ owners) group
The "awkward facial expression" group
The "general" wave group
The "all out wave ie fist pump, thumbs up, whiplash wave, and Tebow (yes the guy "Tebow'd" and yes he was an older JK owner ) wave" group
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:21 AM   #9
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I (and many others around here) would strongly suggest going with the OEM clutch & pressure plate, which is built by a company named LUK.
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:40 AM   #10
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Just curious why would you suggest this? Granted OEM is generally quality stuff, but I've always been the type of person to upgrade if something needs to be replaced or breaks.

I can't remember where I saw the different stage clutches, but I think it was on a vendors website... or it could of been the Centerforce Clutches. Hum... research time. When would you replace it?
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I've looked for a second tank in the rear and am unable to find one. There are two pumps and a line running to the back though on the main tank. Oh and the tank is full and the lines are all connected (as far as I can tell).


There isn't a second tank for the washer fluid-both front and rear come off the one tank under the hood. But the 'suck up level' for the rear is higher than the front tube-so you will have front washer fluid longer.
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Well it's been about 2 months and about 3500 miles since I bought the 05 Rubi and I have a few basic questions for you all (hope they make sense)...

1. I've read that when the gas light comes on you have 4 gallons left or around 50 isk miles til empty. Um... what happens if as soon as the light turns on the gas gauge is close to E... well sitting right on E? Should I ignore that and just follow the 4 gallon "rule" or fill up right away?

My gauge sits on the E, and will not move when I start it for about 30 miles, and I still only put in 17.5-18 gallons. I know this because I tested it (I carried a 2 gallon can with me just in case while I was pushing it). Every jeep is different, and these gauges are notoriously inaccurate. test yours before assuming what someone else says is right.

2. Does the rear wiper spray motor go out often or is that a common thing? My rear wiper works, but the sprayer does not.

Could be the motor. Have someone turn the rear washer on with the switch while you listen in the engine compartment for the motor.

3. Is there any way to fix the speed control for the HVAC? Speeds 1-3 seem all the same (and low at that) and 4 is full blast. I don't mind it I suppose as I usually have it set on speed 4.

I would guess it might be an issue with the resistor as mentioned earlier.

4. Summer is fast approaching and I'm really itching to take the top off (it's been in the 60's up here in Detroit the last couple of days and for the next couple of days it's also suppose to be in the 60's). My question is mainly for the apartment people... do you take your top and doors off in the morning and put it all back on at night? Or do you just use a tub cover or whatever you call it?

When I lived in an appartment I would typically leave every thing off till the weather turned bad. It was tough carrying those doors up 3 flights of stairs every time.
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The original owner included the OEM soft top and a bikini top... however I'm assuming the frameless soft tops will be easier and faster to put on rather than the OEM soft top... is my assumption true? Oh and yes I do lock everything away and put the iVault top on the stereo every night. That's the first thing I got into the habit of doing esp since I found out Jeeps had been getting broken into the night before I bought mine (which is surprising because I live in an "upscale" complex haha). They have since caught the two men doing it though... woohoo!

Never used a frameless top myself, but I would assume it would be harder if you want to completely take it off. My stock soft top is: roll or remove rear window, remove two side windows, undo two clips at the windshield and tip back and tuck in. From my understanding of a frameless, if you want the whole top off, it basically comes off like a sheet that you then have to find a place for. At least with my frame top, I always have the top piece for those supprise showers.

Last question for now and forgot to post... when would you replace the clutch and would you upgrade to a stage 2 or higher? I know it's no racecar, but my thought was it would help when wheeling? The clutch currently has 111150 miles on it.

I've read a lot of mixed reviews on those performance clutches. Some people say they are too "grabby" and there are times when you want to be able to ride the clutch. I choose an OEM LUK when mine was forced to be replaced at 125k, and it still had 1/3-1/2 its life left.

I also had a friend that put a stage 2 clutch into his lifted yj and he couldn't have been happyier. For a difference of $170 for the LUK and almost $300 for a stage 1/2, I'm happy with what I got.

I've also heard the pedal is stiffer with those "performance" clutches, leading to a buff left leg, or more driving fatigue.
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Check your blower motor resistor too. If it is basically off or full blast that could be the issue. $10 and an hour will fix that.
Not sure when the last time you replaced a blower resistor was but it's more like 45 bucks and 10 minutes.
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As for the rear washer fluid not working, if your JEEP did not come with a Hardtop and was later added on you could have a second Tank and Pump under the hood. The kit you buy for the Hardtop comes with new switches, wiring, Pump and Tank.

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