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Old 12-17-2012, 09:22 PM   #1
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A question on tongue weight

I just ordered a rear bumper from robert at dirtworx. I see from others that have bought his bumpers, that he has some great welds and does a nice job. Now the bumper has a class III receiver and d ring brackets that have all been welded through. I'm curious as to how much weight the receiver can withstand? obviously i'm not going to put it to the limit... but comparing to a normal reese hitch kit that attaches to your frame, will my bumper support the same amount of weight or do I need to be careful since it is just part of the bumper and not actually an entire hitch assembly? I plan on getting a small 4x6 utility trailer eventually and hauling small loads of split wood. I just want to know what my limits should be without sacrificing safety. Thanks!

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Old 12-17-2012, 10:02 PM   #2
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you shouldnt have a problem haulin the trailer with wood. Some steel, good welds and bolts wil withstand alot more than most think

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Old 12-17-2012, 10:22 PM   #3
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I'm curious as to how much weight the receiver can withstand?
the receiver will withstand plenty of weight.

but the receiver isn't the problem. the thin crossmember you mounted the bumper to is. Did you get frame tie-in brackets??
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:34 PM   #4
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Did you get frame tie-in brackets??
You would think any kind of bumper with a hitch receiver would. But I guess not everyone thinks like that.
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:43 PM   #5
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I will receive the bumper tomorrow and see how exactly it bolts up. I don't have any frame tie ins but I see some from jcr offroad for a reasonable price.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:13 PM   #6
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You would think any kind of bumper with a hitch receiver would. But I guess not everyone thinks like that.
The bumper and attached receiver in and of themselves might be up to it, but without frame tie-ins that doesn't matter.
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:02 AM   #7
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Okay I plan on getting some tie ins. But do you guys know if that requires additional drilling into my frame or does it utilize existing holes? Also I was under the impression that the cross member was already secured to the frame rails? I just can't imagine places like smittybuilt and other manufacturers building bumpers with hitches if it cannot be used safely. Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen. Thanks again!
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:07 AM   #8
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They build them with hitches, but they clearly state that the hitch is to be used as a recovery point only and not to tow anything. They avoid all liability that way.

The only one I have seen that is towing certified is the ARB rear bumper.
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Being as how TJ's are only rated to 2000 lbs towing I would think your bumper could hold up to 200 lbs tongue weight....
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Its been a long time since I pulled a wood trailer with a Jeep, but it was stopping that was the problem as I recall. I recommend trailer brakes and a good controller. Have fun.
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Its been a long time since I pulled a wood trailer with a Jeep, but it was stopping that was the problem as I recall. I recommend trailer brakes and a good controller. Have fun.
good point. stopping is an issue, especially with a modified jeep with larger tires.

I built a trailer to tow behind my Jeep....it's got 10" electric brakes on it, and the Jeep has Vanco brakes.
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Regardless of the strength of the hitch or receiver bumper, Jeep has published a tow specification for a TJ which is 2000lbs for a 4.0L and 1000lbs for a 2.5L engine. The specification includes a maximum of 200lbs hitch weight.

I HAVE exceeded these limits a couple of times by towing another Jeep back to the road. But that was in low range and with both a 20 foot tow chain and another driver in the disabled Jeep to brake the vehicle.
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:11 PM   #13
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Definitely get the tie ins. I used them on my Dirtworx bumper, it will help spread the load from only the crossmember, to actually into the frame.

IIRC, the ones I got utilized one existing hole, but I had to drill for a second hole in the frame. ( I don't remember who I bought my tie-ins from).
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:56 PM   #14
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The bumper and attached receiver in and of themselves might be up to it, but without frame tie-ins that doesn't matter.
Meant to say they would come with tie ins. That would just makes sense to me.

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