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Old 01-26-2006, 05:34 PM   #1
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hey guys, im new to this, and would appreciate any help you could give me. I've had my 2002 sahara for 2 years now, and ive been thinking of giving her a makeover. My tires are getting a little bald, so I was thinking new tires, new rims, and a lift. Now i understand tires and rims, but what do i need for a lift? where should i go? how much should this cost? how big should i go without being ridiculous? Also, if i get bigger tires, do I need to get bigger fenders so the tires dont stick out form the car? I heard that i wont pass inspection if the tires stick out on the sides. Thanks in advance.

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Old 01-26-2006, 09:07 PM   #2
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Everyone will have different opinions on these subjects..... Here is mine! First it really depends on what you plan on doing, if you like mud, rocks, or just driving on the highway. I have 2 Jeeps (both 2003 TJs), one has 3" short arm lift and the other has 4.5" long arm lift. The 3" lift was around $500 not including the short arms, they were another $500. The 4.5" long arm lift about $2500. None of the dollar figures include installation, most of the work I try to do myself. The 3" lift is much better on the highway then the 4.5", but the 4.5" can climb rocks better. Once again it all depends on what you want to do with your Jeep. With 3" lift you can run 33" x10.5" tires with minimal rubbing, and the other Jeep (4.5" lift) I'm running 33" x 12.5" with extended flairs... they still rub while climbing rocks. So tell us more of what you’re going to do with this Jeep.

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Old 01-26-2006, 09:38 PM   #3
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Thanks for the quick reply. I'll just be using it on the highway. Do you think a 3 inch is too much? Would a 2'' be ok? The wheels cant extend outwards past the fender, (states some bs mass. law), so i have to keep that in mind. And theres no way I would be able to do this myself, im 17 with NO experience, haha, and I dont wanna mess up my car. So yea, its for every day driving, no rocks, maybe a little mud, and i cant extend past the fender flares with the tires. Thanks.
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Old 01-26-2006, 10:45 PM   #4
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for that, i'd honestly look into just a REBB 2'' lift with a set of 31x10.50's on your stock rims. that'll give you a little more clearance and ability without breaking the bank. and you can definitely do the install on the BB on your own with a buddy.
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Old 01-26-2006, 11:04 PM   #5
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with the sahara and the dana 44 in the rear, if you go over 3" you'll probably be getting some driveline vibrations where you will need a transfer case drop or a longer driveshaft / slip yoke eleminator.

If i were you i'd look into the old man emu 2.5" systems, and with a 1" body lift you'll be good for 33" tires, and the ome kits are excellent quality.
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Old 01-27-2006, 10:38 AM   #6
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Im interested in the REBB 2'' lift with a set of 31x10.50's. One question...will the 31x10.50's be too wide with the stock fender slares that came on my 02 sahara. A massachusetts law states that they will not pass inspection if they are too wide and stick out past the fender. Would the 31x10.50's work? Thanks.
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Old 01-27-2006, 11:11 AM   #7
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TJGreg is right... with suspension lift you will get drive line vibration. With 3" lift you will need a slip yoke eliminator. If your not wheeling this jeep, I don't think I would do a suspension lift. I have a friend who put 32" tires under a stock 2004 (no lift). They would rub when he hit bad bumps, but he actually wheeled this Jeep. The point is, I think if you did a 1" or even 2" body lift you would be much better off, and still able to fit 32" or 33" tires.


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Old 01-27-2006, 01:12 PM   #8
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You could run 2" spring spacer and 32x1150's without them sticking out past your flares. The Sahara flares are a bit bigger than the standard plastic flares so you shouldn't have a problem.
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Old 01-27-2006, 03:22 PM   #9
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ok so i pretty much understand the lift, i'll probablly go with a 2'', but whats the difference between a suspension lift, a spring spacer, and a body lift?

also, i have the stock 30x9.50's on right now, and they almost come out past my fender flares. do you really think i could go to something like 31x10.50 or bigger?
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the different lifts go like this....

spacer lift(such as REBB) are 2'' spacers(basically blocks) that fit between on top of the springs. you also get new shocks with this.

a body lift places pucks between the body and the frame at all the body mount points(you can get between 1''-3'', but no one will recommend anything beyond a 1'').

suspension lift replaces the springs, shocks, and other various components depending on which lift it is and the size of the lift.

there are benefits to all of them(except the body lift, IMO), but it all depends on what you want to do and how much you want to spend.
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Old 01-27-2006, 11:41 PM   #11
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which one of the 3 do you think would be best if im using it just for everyday driving? Thanks for all your time, your helping me out a lot.
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i like the idea of running something like the RE 3.5 lift with a 1'' BL and 33's. it's a pretty good setup up for decent wheeling and still will maintain good road manners. and it won't break the bank either. i personally am running the REBB and 31x10.50's. go college student budget!!!
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Your stock rig will accomodate 31 inch tires on stock wheels and will not extend beyond the flares. They will rub a little at full turn, like in a parking lot when you crank the wheel all the way to swing into a tight spot. There's a cure for it by piling washers onto the brake component or whatever it is you are hitting, to move it out of the way. Somebody here can tell you the details I'm sure. If you go with wheels that sit wider you'll need new flares ($250-$400). The Rubicons sit on 31's but they use 16" wheels, not 15", and apparently do not rub.

I personally think a body lift is a bigger PIA than a 2" coil spacer, especially if you are new to wrenching. More than a 2" for a road Jeep is overkill. Others will disagree on both of these opinions.

If you go with the 2" coil spacer, you and a friend could install it without too much trouble. It will give you lots of clearance for 31's if you want to play in the dirt, and fit 32's fine. AutoZone will loan you a tool that compresses your coil springs so you can get them in and out easily. None of the coil spacer kits come with an adjustable rear track bar or a track bar relocation bracket. You will need an adj track bar or wheels that set out farther because the driver side rear tire will be pulled too close to the frame and coil spring top mount. You also want either longer front sway bar links or quick disconnects, because they will be stretched so tight it doesn't take much to break them. To install this lift you have 3 bolts per shock, 1 bolt for each bump stop (if you run extensions or longer bump stops), 2 bolts in the track bar, 2 bolts in each sway bar link and 4 coil springs to compress. That's it.
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Old 02-16-2006, 01:58 AM   #14
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i have a 2000 tj with the 2" rebicon express buget lift. i have 32 x 11.5 on the stock sport wheels. the tires stick out about an inch. i do have bad tire rub at full turn but i just don't make tight turns anymore. i would guess that if you ever got your jeep dirty you would get hooked. so use the jeep for what it was meant for!!

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