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Old 04-01-2013, 06:56 PM   #1
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Advice Needed From Bestop Tire Carrier Users

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I'm considering a Bestop tire carrier in lieu of a full bumper/carrier combination from LoD.

The issue I have is that I'm planning on a 33" spare and the 31" I currently have on the standard carrier has caused some droop on the tailgate hinges.

Soooooooo, the question is, do I need to replace the hinges before installing the Bestop carrier OR will the Bestop carrier pull my tailgate back into it's proper position if I install it properly which would save me buying the hinges.

Thoughts ?

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Which carrier? This one?


I'd definitely get the hinges replaced if they aren't what they're supposed to be. This carrier works very well IMO, but adjustment is critical to keep it from binding and swinging smoothly with the tail gate hinges.

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I run 33s and I know it might not be what you want to hear, but you may be better off with a bumper tire carrier.

I have Bestop's Highrock back bumper with tire carrier. I feel a lot better with the tire carrier's hinge mounted to the bumper rather than the tailgate.

The only connection it has to the tailgate is a heim joint. It doesn't put a load on the tailgate; its purpose is to allow the tire carrier and the tailgate both to open and close simultaneously rather than one at a time.

It's pretty pricey, but it's something you should seriously consider if you plan to have a 33 hanging off your back end.

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This carrier works very well IMO, but adjustment is critical to keep it from binding and swinging smoothly with the tail gate hinges.
That's pretty slick, but doesn't it still rely on the tub to support its weight?

What size tire are you running?
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That's pretty slick, but doesn't it still rely on the tub to support its weight?

What size tire are you running?
Yes, the carrier mounts to the tub, and is tied into the roll bar. 32X11.50
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Patrick, yes, that's the one I'm thinking of buying.

Tossing up between keeping my stock bumper and investing $300 on the Bestop or replacing the whole setup with the Xpedition Bumper / Tire Carrier from LoD for $700.

I don't currently or ever plan to off-road, my Jeep rolls up and down I-83.

Thoughts ?
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Patrick, yes, that's the one I'm thinking of buying.

Tossing up between keeping my stock bumper and investing $300 on the Bestop or replacing the whole setup with the Xpedition Bumper / Tire Carrier from LoD for $700.

I don't currently or ever plan to off-road, my Jeep rolls up and down I-83.

Thoughts ?
It's a matter of opinion. I wanted a tub-mounted carrier. It does not rattle, move, squeak, shake, or vibrate. I did reinforce the roll bar tie-in bracket, and also supplemented the lower backing plate inside the tub.
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Just put mine on a few days ago, carries a 33" pretty well. Installation was a little trouble some, but I did follow the directions. With the exception of the jack nuts, I drilled a hole for the bottom hinge and the light mount on the inside of the tailgate. It just work better.
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Just put mine on a few days ago, carries a 33" pretty well. Installation was a little trouble some, but I did follow the directions. With the exception of the jack nuts, I drilled a hole for the bottom hinge and the light mount on the inside of the tailgate. It just work better.
Ron, I guess that will become more apparent if I get the Bestop carrier. You're referring to modifying the 3rd brake light mount ? What did you have to modify for the bottom hinge ?

Are your stock tailgate hinges good ?

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I have the HighRock carrier and am really happy with it. I am not sure if you would have any ill effects based on the worn hinges, though you may. The majority of the weight seems to be supported by the tub and roll cage mount.

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I have the same Bestop Tub mounted carrier also. Been running a 35" tire on it for over 2 years. Mostly off road use. It is holding up very well. I did replace the painted hardware with grade 8 bolts before mounting which made it go much smoother.

I ran a 33" tire for a bunch of years on my stock carrier before I bought the Bestop. I did not have any tailgate hinge issues. Can you post up a picture of the hinges and how the latch lines up with the tub? Maybe we can get a better idea if it will work for you or not.
I believe most all the weight is supported by the tub on this carrier. You can also run any bumper you want later, which is nice. I also did not use the mount for the 3rd brake light tower. I just put a led light in the center cap of the spare using the stock wiring.



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I did replace the painted hardware with grade 8 bolts before mounting which made it go much smoother.
As did I.
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I have the same Bestop Tub mounted carrier also. Been running a 35" tire on it for over 2 years. Mostly off road use. It is holding up very well. I did replace the painted hardware with grade 8 bolts before mounting which made it go much smoother.

I ran a 33" tire for a bunch of years on my stock carrier before I bought the Bestop. I did not have any tailgate hinge issues. Can you post up a picture of the hinges and how the latch lines up with the tub? Maybe we can get a better idea if it will work for you or not.
I believe most all the weight is supported by the tub on this carrier. You can also run any bumper you want later, which is nice. I also did not use the mount for the 3rd brake light tower. I just put a led light in the center cap of the spare using the stock wiring.
Wow, love your Jeep ! Are you running 33's or 35's in the photos ?
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I have an 03. There is no bolt hole for the bottom bracket on the tail gate. Drilled a hole inside so I could use a bolt and lock washer/nut
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My hinges are good but my tailgate is slightly warped from the 33" on the stock bracket, which broke in half finally
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It's a matter of opinion. I wanted a tub-mounted carrier. It does not rattle, move, squeak, shake, or vibrate.
Yeah, I had to get used to the heim joint rattling around a bit.
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Wow, love your Jeep ! Are you running 33's or 35's in the photos ?
Thank you! 35x12.5x15 tires. Still very much a work in progress.
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I have the same Bestop Tub mounted carrier also. Been running a 35" tire on it for over 2 years. Mostly off road use. It is holding up very well. I did replace the painted hardware with grade 8 bolts before mounting which made it go much smoother.

I ran a 33" tire for a bunch of years on my stock carrier before I bought the Bestop. I did not have any tailgate hinge issues. Can you post up a picture of the hinges and how the latch lines up with the tub? Maybe we can get a better idea if it will work for you or not.
I believe most all the weight is supported by the tub on this carrier. You can also run any bumper you want later, which is nice. I also did not use the mount for the 3rd brake light tower. I just put a led light in the center cap of the spare using the stock wiring.
Not to hijack the thread but did you make the cargo carrier that mounts over your tire? I always seem to have a hard time finding a spot to store the ice chest on runs. My current tire/wheel combo only weighs 68 lbs so I'm sure my bestop carrier could support the weight.
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Not to hijack the thread but did you make the cargo carrier that mounts over your tire?
A local Jeeper made it. I have since modified it to hold the shovel and an ax next to the tire instead of on the end.
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Could you post up a few close up pics for a better idea? I have some square tubing left over from building deer stands last year and I think it would be a good use for it! Thanks
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Just another possible option. Jscherb designed this and then sold it to gr8tops. He does amazing work on his projects

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Could you post up a few close up pics for a better idea? I have some square tubing left over from building deer stands last year and I think it would be a good use for it! Thanks
I tried to PM you some pics as not to Jack this thread up any further.
But, your inbox is full.
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I tried to PM you some pics as not to Jack this thread up any further.
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I have the same Bestop Tub mounted carrier also. Been running a 35" tire on it for over 2 years. Mostly off road use. It is holding up very well. I did replace the painted hardware with grade 8 bolts before mounting which made it go much smoother.

I ran a 33" tire for a bunch of years on my stock carrier before I bought the Bestop. I did not have any tailgate hinge issues. Can you post up a picture of the hinges and how the latch lines up with the tub? Maybe we can get a better idea if it will work for you or not.
I believe most all the weight is supported by the tub on this carrier. You can also run any bumper you want later, which is nice. I also did not use the mount for the 3rd brake light tower. I just put a led light in the center cap of the spare using the stock wiring.



Yeah, I'll post some pictures later this week, my Jeep is in the shop. I did find some good tailgate hinges in the junkyard today (rusty but tight on the pivot).

I'm thinking about replacing my hinges with those but looking at some of the horror stories regarding stripped torx bolts I'm getting more nervous by the minute.

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