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Old 11-13-2012, 11:28 AM   #31
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the most recent edition of TruckU on Speed has the boys installing the Bedmat version from Bedrug in a TJ.. at least you can get an idea of what it looks like..
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My TJ with Gatorhyde was a bit warmer on the trans hump afterwards, but not too bad until it was summer. In summer everything is hot though, 115 outside temp just means hotter on the trans hump. If I could have done anything different, I would have cut a trans hump "saddle" of outdoor carpet out to throw over it in summer just to keep my bare leg or flip flopped foot from hitting it.

Noise wise, I didn't notice the difference. I noticed more that my TJ with the half doors was quieter than the previous one with full doors. The new JK is extremely quiet, quieter than any other vehicle I've owned.

The JK is completely different from what little I've already noticed. Whoever engineered these thought more about what they could cram into a Jeep and less on how they did it. I've noticed a lot more wiring already, and crammed into odd places where I would have routed it differently. The TJ wiring was grouped together nicely, the rear taillights group ran down under the lip of the tub on the driver's side grouping together with the soundbar wiring and then ran up under the dash. The console wiring ran forward under the console completely. I only had a wire under the driver's seat for the seatbelt warning light that hung loose. Looking at the footboards in the TJ you would have the wire group on the driver's left behind a plastic cover, and then it would be clean until you really looked under the dash. In the JK I've already noticed a bunch of grounding wires(?) tapped into the tub under the dash where my front passenger can kick or hit them. There are a bunch more I've noticed under the carpets already. I also looked briefly at a friend's JK with the carpet pulled, it had some gaps in the body tub in the rear area that were unsightly from what I remember. This adds to my complaint about how much plastic is also trimming the interior. Maybe he had pulled that off as well where I saw gaps.

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Old 11-14-2012, 07:13 AM   #33
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Agreed. TJ's are much more aesthetically pleasing with the carpet removed when compared to a similar JK. It's like the TJ guys considered the fact that many people won't use the carpet and the JK guys didn't. I drove and inspected a 2013 JKUR that I'll be doing some work on over the weekend......extremely quiet but definitely more complex in terms of wiring. It rode very nice but was far too soft and numb for my tastes. Steering outputs and suspension response felt a bit delayed due to the abundance of soft rubber in the suspension and the soft shocks. Very nice vehicle but after driving one, I prefer my TJ.....if only I could get it to be even close to that noise level. Sooooo quiet.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:45 AM   #34
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the most recent edition of TruckU on Speed has the boys installing the Bedmat version from Bedrug in a TJ.. at least you can get an idea of what it looks like..
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Bedtread by bedrug..saw it .have had bedrug in my pickup they make a great product.THe bedtread looks like a interesting option we might look into.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:00 AM   #35
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Bedtread by bedrug..saw it .have had bedrug in my pickup they make a great product.THe bedtread looks like a interesting option we might look into.
I have a bedrug in my pickukp as well.. great product and IMHO better than any other bedliner out there.. well, at least for me it is.

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Old 11-14-2012, 09:39 AM   #36
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I have a bedrug in my pickukp as well.. great product and IMHO better than any other bedliner out there.. well, at least for me it is.

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looks like jeep kit runs around 450...ouch
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:23 AM   #37
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looks like jeep kit runs around 450...ouch
Yep, however, if I were to buy it, I would just buy the front and I have a 3/8th think rubber horse stall mat I put in the back. I got the mat for $60 at Tractor Supply and cut it to fit..that would be a reasonable total cost.. at least for me. I think the front is only about $165 or so at 4WD.
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:47 PM   #38
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Yep, however, if I were to buy it, I would just buy the front and I have a 3/8th think rubber horse stall mat I put in the back. I got the mat for $60 at Tractor Supply and cut it to fit..that would be a reasonable total cost.. at least for me. I think the front is only about $165 or so at 4WD.
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I think would like the fendres covered and still throw my rugged ridge cargo mat over that..if you get one let me know how it is and I will do the same ..maybe santa will bring me a set but then again I have been nothin but bad !
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:56 PM   #39
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I tore out the OEM carpet because the PO thrashed it. I've got nothing on the floor save for some rubber floor mats in the front wheel wells.


heat? I haven't noticed a difference in 100°+ summers or 40° winters.
noise? The sound level coming from the back borders on uncomfortably loud (hardtop on).


I'm looking at buying an ACC replacement kit.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:52 PM   #40
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As far as sound goes, my top is down whenever I can take it down, so it doesn't bother me.
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Old 11-18-2012, 05:07 PM   #41
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It feels a little less "cozy"..weird, I know. But "cozy" and "Jeep" is a bit of an oxymoron
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:23 PM   #42
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I just took my carpet out yesterday. I was having a small leaking issue in the back and decided to remove the carpet back there to avoid mold. Before I knew it all the carpet was in a pile in the barn.

The only thing I don't like about it is it left all the wiring exposed that I had just tucked under the carpet. I zip tied all of it up and it looks so much cleaner now. I'll be putting truck bed liner in it when the weather agrees. Has anyone used the roll on rustoleum bed liner?
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:42 PM   #43
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I got tired of taking mine out to go wheeling. Plus, after so many times taking it out and ripping it, it was pretty much done. It didn't help spilling some 90wt on it too. That smell never went away even after an entire bottle of dish soap. I got the monstaliner kit and love it. My jeep was just as loud before as it is now. A little more heat but nothing worth worrying about. I haven't missed it at all.

I say take out your carpet and see what it'll be like for all seasons. If you don't miss it, bedline it. If you miss it, put it back in.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:34 PM   #44
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Just curious if you people that don't notice the extra heat have a 1.25 body lift? I'm putting a 1.25 body lift and a 1 mml in soon. I want to know if this will help the floor heat issue a little? Also if I would even notice noise change with a soft top?
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:36 PM   #45
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I have little kids, will the rough bedliner interior be an issue?
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:39 PM   #46
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Just curious if you people that don't notice the extra heat have a 1.25 body lift? I'm putting a 1.25 body lift and a 1 mml in soon. I want to know if this will help the floor heat issue a little? Also if I would even notice noise change with a soft top?
Nope. When you install the MML after the BL, you basically put the heat source right where it would have been. IMO, it isn't that much of a difference, but I never pulled my carpet before both were done.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:50 PM   #47
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I have little kids, will the rough bedliner interior be an issue?
Not all bedliners are rough, but a rough bedliner can result in skinned knees and elbows. I went with Monstaliner since it is an easy DIY and it is nice and smooth.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:54 PM   #48
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Not all bedliners are rough, but a rough bedliner can result in skinned knees and elbows. I went with Monstaliner since it is an easy DIY and it is nice and smooth.
Is monstaliner more expensive? Do most places have it in stock?
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Is monstaliner more expensive? Do most places have it in stock?
I think you need to order through Monstaliner. I did and I think it cost me about $100 with free shipping and a free can of chassis saver which I've yet to use. I have a thread on here somewhere about it.
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I like the BedTred/BedRug products, they don't seem to be too costly when compared with other options if carpeting is desired. Throw away carpet kits don't cost much less. Their claims of durability will be proven over time. Only problem for me is my "LJ". They are considering offering an LJ kit "maybe down the line". Like many of you suggest, take the carpet out and see if noise and heat are an issue. Summer temps in Phoenix can be intense. Always laughed though with all the places I've lived. "Had my summer ride and my winter ride", down here in the dessert you "have your day ride and your night ride".
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To help combat the heat, I used a product called lizardskin. Before lizard skin, the A/C couldn't keep up with the heat gain at highway speeds / roadtrips and melted the rubber floor mat on the passenger side and could actuatly burn your ankles on the trans hump. After lizaredskin, no problems whatsoever, great product! Top coated with Raptor Liner that can be tinted any color. Looks / works great!
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I just took my carpet out yesterday. I was having a small leaking issue in the back and decided to remove the carpet back there to avoid mold. Before I knew it all the carpet was in a pile in the barn.

The only thing I don't like about it is it left all the wiring exposed that I had just tucked under the carpet. I zip tied all of it up and it looks so much cleaner now. I'll be putting truck bed liner in it when the weather agrees. Has anyone used the roll on rustoleum bed liner?
I did mine this past summer with the rustoleum roll on, and I think it looks great. Lined the rear with a leftover quart of the rustoleum Kevlar bed armor, and now Zeke the Wonder Dog doesn't slide around when we go driving. The only issue I had was with the fumes from the regular roll on liner, it smelled pretty bad for weeks! Thankfully I had the top & doors off almost every day all summer long. Noise seems about the same now that I've got my hardtop back on, and any extra heat transfer is more than welcome; it went down to 8 degrees last night!! Anyone want to buy a good, clean carpet set? Mine's stored in the shed, and won't be going back in......
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What do I have to remove to be able to take out the carpet?...the center counsel, back seat brackets?...the front seats can stay correct?...I have a 2000 Wrangler...
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What do I have to remove to be able to take out the carpet?...the center counsel, back seat brackets?...the front seats can stay correct?...I have a 2000 Wrangler...
Nothing really needs to be removed, but if yours is in any condition like mine was, it is dry rotted and will rip very easy when removing the front. It tucks up under the console but isn't really held down by it. I tossed mine since it stunk like 90 wt.
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Nothing really needs to be removed, but if yours is in any condition like mine was, it is dry rotted and will rip very easy when removing the front. It tucks up under the console but isn't really held down by it. I tossed mine since it stunk like 90 wt.
Oh good may be easier than I thought then...I would like to take it out in one piece just in case I want to put it back in ever...did you bed line at all...hear a lot about using a product called Rustoleum...
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It won't be in one piece. You'll see why when you start to pull it out. It is in sections.

Yes, I bedlined with Monstaliner.
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:05 PM   #57
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dont' pull too hard. i ripped my carpet in 3 or 4 areas when i took mine out. need to get a new set.
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Ive had my carpet out with out bedlining the floors for about 3 months now. Love it.
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Oh good may be easier than I thought then...I would like to take it out in one piece just in case I want to put it back in ever...did you bed line at all...hear a lot about using a product called Rustoleum...

Hmm. Rustoleum? I hear alot too but nothing good, especially for bedlining the interior tub. Stick with Monstaliner or U-POL Raptor. I couldn't do without carpet very long just for the increase heat and noise. I was also concern about standing water after a rain shower with my safari/CRES setup. Working on getting Bestop Vinyl seat covers to complete the monstaliner interior so I could care less about rain showers anymore.
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Hmm. Rustoleum? I hear alot too but nothing good, especially for bedlining the interior tub. Stick with Monstaliner or U-POL Raptor. I couldn't do without carpet very long just for the increase heat and noise. I was also concern about standing water after a rain shower with my safari/CRES setup. Working on getting Bestop Vinyl seat covers to complete the monstaliner interior so I could care less about rain showers anymore.
Okay so monstaliner for inside...rustoleum okay for fender flares and the like?...where were you able to purchase monstaliner?

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