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Old 09-04-2011, 09:40 PM   #1
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Advise on which Jeep to buy

Okay, I've been looking around at Jeeps for a few months and I still can't completely decide on what I want.

I'm leaning towards an 03-06 due to the changes that were made in 03. But I'm starting to get impatient and just want a dang Jeep. Is there a big advantage (or disadvantage) to the NV-3550 over the AX-15?

I plan on taking it off-road a few times a year so I was thinking about a Rubicon. However my price range that I'm wanting to stay in ($10,000 to $11,000) the Rubicons are all higher mileage. There are a few 97-02's out there in my price range with lower miles but I think I want an 03-06. Again, higher mileage. Here's where I

The Jeep will be my primary vehicle when I'm not on the Harley. I don't plan on going with anything larger than a 2-3" inch lift and 33's.

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Old 09-04-2011, 10:56 PM   #3
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The NV3550 was put in from 2000-2004 with 4.0's
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Okay, I've been looking around at Jeeps for a few months and I still can't completely decide on what I want.

I'm leaning towards an 03-06 due to the changes that were made in 03. But I'm starting to get impatient and just want a dang Jeep. Is there a big advantage (or disadvantage) to the NV-3550 over the AX-15?

I plan on taking it off-road a few times a year so I was thinking about a Rubicon. However my price range that I'm wanting to stay in ($10,000 to $11,000) the Rubicons are all higher mileage. There are a few 97-02's out there in my price range with lower miles but I think I want an 03-06. Again, higher mileage. Here's where I

The Jeep will be my primary vehicle when I'm not on the Harley. I don't plan on going with anything larger than a 2-3" inch lift and 33's.

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Ax-15 last year was 99. The 3550 was 2000-2004. The 6 speed started 2005.
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What changes, other than rubicon model, did they make in 2003 are you interested in?

You lose the AMC mirrors and door handles. Mirrors plastic in 2003 
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The 05 and 06 4.0 have problems as you can read here.

2005-06 Jeep OPDA_CPS_Distributor Failure - JeepForum.com

I read about the 6 speed jumping out of gear. Hear problems with the 4 speed auto being less than reliable.

Sounds like the best thing is the 5 speed stick, 3 speed auto, and 04 and older. I too would love a Rubi, but I bought a 97 4.0 3 speed auto for cheap. Good luck in what you pick.

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I have 01 4.0 5 speed and not an issue in world related to engine or transmission. And I have dana 44 in rear.
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I have 01 4.0 5 speed and not an issue in world related to engine or transmission. And I have dana 44 in rear.

same, but an 02
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same, but an 02
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you sound like you're only interested in a manual. i like the gears better in the nv. rubicons can be had for less than 11k. i got mine for 11k with 75k miles and the nv trans. just have to be patient. but honestly i probably wouldn't buy a rubicon again. i'd get a sport with a d44 next time. i would only get another rubicon if i wanted to keep it relatively stock and off-road often.
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you sound like you're only interested in a manual. i like the gears better in the nv. rubicons can be had for less than 11k. i got mine for 11k with 75k miles and the nv trans. just have to be patient. but honestly i probably wouldn't buy a rubicon again. i'd get a sport with a d44 next time. i would only get another rubicon if i wanted to keep it relatively stock and off-road often.
Yea, I'm leaning towards a manual tranny. Can you get a Sport with a factory Dana 44? Or are you talking about doing a swap? Why wouldn't you get another Rubi?
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What changes, other than rubicon model, did they make in 2003 are you interested in?

You lose the AMC mirrors and door handles. Mirrors plastic in 2003 
Just some of the updates like the top and interior pieces. It's not a "must have" by any means.
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The 05 and 06 4.0 have problems as you can read here.

2005-06 Jeep OPDA_CPS_Distributor Failure - JeepForum.com

I read about the 6 speed jumping out of gear. Hear problems with the 4 speed auto being less than reliable.

Sounds like the best thing is the 5 speed stick, 3 speed auto, and 04 and older. I too would love a Rubi, but I bought a 97 4.0 3 speed auto for cheap. Good luck in what you pick.

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Good information, thank you, I wasn't aware of those problems. Maybe I'll shot for an 03-04 Rubi.
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Yea, I'm leaning towards a manual tranny. Can you get a Sport with a factory Dana 44? Or are you talking about doing a swap? Why wouldn't you get another Rubi?
d44 rear was an option in sports and saharas. i wouldn't get a rubicon again because by the time i'm done modifying this one all the rubicon parts will be gone. that's why i wouldn't get one if i were you unless you know it will stay mostly stock and you will off road often to get the benefits of the rubicon. unless you just like the stickers on the side. the rubicon is a fantastic machine and in stock form will out perform all the other models. it just depends on your specific wants.
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The 05 and 06 4.0 have problems as you can read here.

2005-06 Jeep OPDA_CPS_Distributor Failure - JeepForum.com

I read about the 6 speed jumping out of gear. Hear problems with the 4 speed auto being less than reliable.

Sounds like the best thing is the 5 speed stick, 3 speed auto, and 04 and older. I too would love a Rubi, but I bought a 97 4.0 3 speed auto for cheap. Good luck in what you pick.

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I don't plan on going with anything larger than a 2-3" inch lift and 33's.

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If you want to run 33's, AND off-road it, you'll need at minimum 3+" of lift. Stock you can run 31" fine. 32" need a 2" lift. This is so the tires don't rub when flexing. Also backspacing will need to be addressed with wider than stock tires. Anything taller than 3-1/2" and you'll need drivetrain modifications. If you really plan to go with 33", do yourself a favor and get a Sport or better with a Dana 44 rear-end and AT MINIMUM 3.73 gears. But for a DD you might not be happy with even 3.73 gears and 33" tires. Lots of folks settle for less, I know I did and regret it, and tell themselves it's ok. We all like to defend or justify what we've done. But there are trade offs, and only you can determine their acceptability.
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The 05 and 06 4.0 have problems as you can read here.

2005-06 Jeep OPDA_CPS_Distributor Failure - JeepForum.com

I read about the 6 speed jumping out of gear. Hear problems with the 4 speed auto being less than reliable.

Sounds like the best thing is the 5 speed stick, 3 speed auto, and 04 and older. I too would love a Rubi, but I bought a 97 4.0 3 speed auto for cheap. Good luck in what you pick.

Will
Honestly, I've come to the conclusion that this problem has been vastly exaggerated over the Internet. Don't get me wrong, there is an issue, but I don't think it's severe as it's made out to be.
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Honestly, I've come to the conclusion that this problem has been vastly exaggerated over the Internet. Don't get me wrong, there is an issue, but I don't think it's severe as it's made out to be.
What?!? The internet has blown something out of proportion? Impossible!



You know, every model-specific car forum will go on and on about all the problems that model is just plain guaranteed to have. The above link tells you how the TJs are horrible; go to a Porsche forum and you'll learn that every Boxster ever made will experience IMS failure, causing the engine to explode into a million pieces; visit the Kia Soul forums and they'll tell you how the stereo is destined to fail and--my favorite--how the OEM 18" tires will magically develop bulges in the sidewalls all by themselves because the owners are absolutely positive they have never hit a pothole, or a curb, etc.

The biggest downside to the internet in general is that it gives every idiot out there a soapbox upon which to do their best impersonation of Chicken Little.
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[QUOTE=SportsGal501;1543874]06 TJ "X"
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What?!? The internet has blown something out of proportion? Impossible!



You know, every model-specific car forum will go on and on about all the problems that model is just plain guaranteed to have. The above link tells you how the TJs are horrible; go to a Porsche forum and you'll learn that every Boxster ever made will experience IMS failure, causing the engine to explode into a million pieces; visit the Kia Soul forums and they'll tell you how the stereo is destined to fail and--my favorite--how the OEM 18" tires will magically develop bulges in the sidewalls all by themselves because the owners are absolutely positive they have never hit a pothole, or a curb, etc.

The biggest downside to the internet in general is that it gives every idiot out there a soapbox upon which to do their best impersonation of Chicken Little.
You put it perfect
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