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Old 05-26-2008, 09:16 PM   #1
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Thumbs down Air Down easy... Air Back Up hard????

OK so we have a really good weekend in Big Bear. Great company, and great trails. Here's the thing. It sure is easy to air down, but now I see why people go to all lengths to have air compressors and CO2. I have to go to four different gas stations to air back up, and the attendants complained about having to turn their machines on.

What's up with that. Aren't gas stations required by law to provide air to paying customers. I purchased gas at the last place for $4.32 a gallon after arguing with the guy about letting me have free air.

Anyway.... after my griping... what is your experience with the best and faster on board air method ?????

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I've used an ARB portable compressor before and that was a waste of an hour of my life. Now I have a portable Co2 tank and it takes me about 5 minutes to air up from 6-7 psi to 25 psi. Drop the coin on a Co2 tank and you'll be good to go.

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I have a hard mount compressor with tank also a Co2 tank. Co2 is the quickest way to go.
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i've been using c02 since I began wheeling 4 years ago and is easy and quick. Its a 20# tank so I only have to spend $20 once every couple of months.

also helps to reseat tire beads and run cut off wheels for mangled exhausts
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Actually, now that I think about it, airing down is a bigger pain in the butt than airing back up with the Co2.
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Cool ... that's what I was trying to figure out. So where did you get your tanks, and where do you go to get them refilled? Thanks for the information...
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Here by my hosue there is this gas station that charges 75 cents for like 2 minutes of compressor time. I spend like 10 bucks to get my tires from 10 psi to 30. Now i go to Jiffy lube since i went there to get my oil done so they will air the tires up for me for free. Its one of their duties.
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Never had an issue with filling up at a gas station. Guess it all depends where you wheel and live.
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generally on both my jeeps (33x12.50's) i run 24lbs all the time...
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What gets me is you can go to a gas station for 10 years and buy gas, and when you try to air up your Jeep.... they complain about turning there machine on 4 times.
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yea and the big bear gas stations suck. i usually go to m parents house to air up in baldwin.
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What a funny thread, I had simular problem on Saturday took like 45min to air up from 8 to 25 and then air up the rest when i got to work.

I was just looking for new air downs and then a new compressor, My kragen jobby just bout kills me when it gets hot blows my fuse.........Needs something better.

Co2 maybe the way to go.
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C02 works well but I don't want to have to worry about it running out before I'm done airing my tires up... especially since they do consume a lot of gas volume due to their size.

For less than $300, I installed an on-board air system that uses an old York F210 automotive a/c compressor I bought for $35 from a local junkyard. It puts out so much air volume that I can even run my air tools on the trail. A compressor mounting bracket kit from www.kilbyenterprises.com/ plus a 2.5 gallon air tank, fittings, hose, etc.. is the rest of what you'll need. By the way, this York puts out so much air volume (volume is key, not pressure) that my 35" tires can be refilled from 7 psi to 28 psi in no more than 5-6 minutes at most. And it will never run out of air either.
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i have a ARB HD compressor and a 2 gallon air tank.
last weekend i used it the first time to air up my tires.
i needed less than 10 minutes to air up four 35x12.5x15 tires from 12 to 28 psi.
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also be sure to get a good regulator. I recently bought a good hiflo that doesn't freeze and clog. i filled my friends 35s up from 7psi to 32 psi... then I filled my 38s up from 5 psi to 25 psi... no freezing.

CO2 is great but get a good regulator too
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C02 works well but I don't want to have to worry about it running out before I'm done airing my tires up... especially since they do consume a lot of gas volume due to their size.

For less than $300, I installed an on-board air system that uses an old York F210 automotive a/c compressor I bought for $35 from a local junkyard. It puts out so much air volume that I can even run my air tools on the trail. A compressor mounting bracket kit from www.kilbyenterprises.com/ plus a 2.5 gallon air tank, fittings, hose, etc.. is the rest of what you'll need. By the way, this York puts out so much air volume (volume is key, not pressure) that my 35" tires can be refilled from 7 psi to 28 psi in no more than 5-6 minutes at most. And it will never run out of air either.

I have the york sitting in the garage I just need the funds to get the brackets
but thats the way to go a friend of mine had a 10 Ib co2 tank and would only get one trip out of it thats airing up 33 15.50 15 swampers from 5-25

the york is the way to go
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C02 works well but I don't want to have to worry about it running out before I'm done airing my tires up... especially since they do consume a lot of gas volume due to their size.

For less than $300, I installed an on-board air system that uses an old York F210 automotive a/c compressor I bought for $35 from a local junkyard. It puts out so much air volume that I can even run my air tools on the trail. A compressor mounting bracket kit from www.kilbyenterprises.com/ plus a 2.5 gallon air tank, fittings, hose, etc.. is the rest of what you'll need. By the way, this York puts out so much air volume (volume is key, not pressure) that my 35" tires can be refilled from 7 psi to 28 psi in no more than 5-6 minutes at most. And it will never run out of air either.
Got any pic's of i Jerry I would like to see how it mounts ect.
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this is the bracket itself

and the compressor mounted with the belt hooked up


those pics are of a friends set up on a 2005 rubicon
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Does he have existing AC? This seems like a pretty good option. Any more pictures, or better yet an install write up??

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Got any pic's of i Jerry I would like to see how it mounts ect.
This isn't a great pic but here ya go...
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i got a question for you jerry...these "york" compressors. what vehicles can you get them from? and what are the good ones /better ones to get?
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i remember people using ac compressors as air compressors
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i remember people using ac compressors as air compressors
Just try and keep up Tripp.
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Jedi.com has good info if your going the home-made york route...

http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/yorkair.html

That link also shows how to ID the right compressor, which vehicles it is found in, stuff like that.

Its alot less money than the $$$ kilby but requires alot of hunting/shopping around at junk yards to find the right compressor.
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Does he have existing AC? This seems like a pretty good option. Any more pictures, or better yet an install write up??

yep he still has the AC its on the other side under the power steering resavor on a 2000 or newer TJ
that bracket moves the alt under the compressor

heres the pics he did of his install
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