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Old 01-12-2014, 11:44 AM   #1
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Am I missing something?

So as I stated in another post I took my TJ to the dealership this past week for a oil change. With the damn polar vortex making it too cold to do it my self and a road trip coming up I wanted to have everything checked out. After the shock of the new oil pan quote the guy said I was was missing a steering linkage or stabilizer. This is what they pointed to. This has been like this since I bought it 2 years ago from them? Thank you!
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Old 01-12-2014, 11:52 AM   #2
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That looks like your sway bar linkage...time for upgrade...disconnects! 2 yrs??

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Old 01-12-2014, 11:54 AM   #3
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I drove around with both mine disconnected for 1.5 years. Snow, ice, gravel driving daily. I just drove carefully. It actually rode smoother over bumps too.
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Old 01-12-2014, 11:56 AM   #4
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Yeah 2 years and seems to run fine.
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Old 01-12-2014, 12:04 PM   #5
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It'll be 1yr with no swaybars in March
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Old 01-12-2014, 12:30 PM   #6
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Would this be what I need then? http://www.quadratec.com/products/56...FahDMgod8iIAfg
Also I am thinking of a lift kit this summer. Should I just hold out and wait?
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Technically yes but they don't disconnect. You can get disconnects now just make sure they adjust for the amount of lift you plan on getting. Below is a link of disconnects, I just googled JKS Disconnects and copied first one.

http://www.jeep4x4center.com/jks-fro...FYg-MgodXwYAPA
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Old 01-12-2014, 12:42 PM   #8
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Technically yes but they don't disconnect. You can get disconnects now just make sure they adjust for the amount of lift you plan on getting. Below is a link of disconnects, I just googled JKS Disconnects and copied first one. http://www.jeep4x4center.com/jks-fro...FYg-MgodXwYAPA
As you can see they work from 2.5" -6" of lift...
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Old 01-12-2014, 12:45 PM   #9
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I would just hold out until the lift but that depends how much lift are you putting because if its only a 2" lift you can use the stock links.
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How much lift?

JKS makes two lengths of their Quicker Disconnects. One is for 0-2" of lift and one is for 2.5-6" of lift.

I would get the JKS as they are bombproof and absolutely reliable. They will restore the missing safety feature of the anti-sway bar and still allow you to disconnect off road by pulling some grenade-type pins.

I would not wait, though, on a lift that *might* happen and has not been fully thought out and planned. I would either get the less expensive Crowns or the more expensive JKS. The Crowns are *not* discos. The JKS are. Therein lies the difference in cost.

I have not noted anyone successfully selling used anti-sway bar links for the front that are not quick disconnects. So I personally would buy the shorter JKS (if you are not lifted). After installing the new lift I would figure out what to do from there. Many lift kits have longer links included. So you could use them until you decide to get quick disconnects of some sort. (JKS is not the only brand.) Doing it this way will leave you with extra parts that are actually sellable. I see people selling the shorter JKS links on occasion and they seem to move if the price is right.

If you buy the Crown ones for stock length you will probably have a tough time selling them later since they are replacing something that everyone already has and that can be had for about the same price from the dealer as an OEM part.

Good luck, whichever way you go, man... ;-)
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Old 01-12-2014, 07:05 PM   #11
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What is the benefit of the disconnects?
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Old 01-12-2014, 07:21 PM   #12
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What is the benefit of the disconnects?
When you go off road you disconnect your sway bars...gives your Jeep the ability to "Flex" and still keep all 4 wheels on the ground. When you're on the road driving having them connected keeps your Jeep more stable in turns and sudden movements. If you look at my Jeep going over obstacles I'm able to do this because I disconnected my sway bar. Here's a whole thread of "flex". Let's see em flexed!!
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When you go off road you disconnect your sway bars...gives your Jeep the ability to "Flex" and still keep all 4 wheels on the ground. When you're on the road driving having them connected keeps your Jeep more stable in turns and sudden movements. If you look at my Jeep going over obstacles I'm able to do this because I disconnected my sway bar. Here's a whole thread of "flex". Let's see em flexed!!
So the sway bars are what limits your flex? Im new to suspensions and offroading.
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Sounds like I definitely want to go with the disconnects. Anyone recommend a brand? I have a stock hight 2000 sport.
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So the sway bars are what limits your flex? Im new to suspensions and offroading.
When connected...a basic answer is yes. Once you disconnect it's more complicated than that...trac bar interference, diff covers, shocks, coils, bumpstops, fender clearance all play a role in flex. If you read some of the stickies and some of the threads in the tech forums you'll have a good understanding of suspensions.
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When connected...a basic answer is yes. Once you disconnect it's more complicated than that...trac bar interference, diff covers, shocks, coils, bumpstops, fender clearance all play a role in flex. If you read some of the stickies and some of the threads in the tech forums you'll have a good understanding of suspensions.
Alright thanks ill read those.
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When connected...a basic answer is yes. Once you disconnect it's more complicated than that...trac bar interference, diff covers, shocks, coils, bumpstops, fender clearance all play a role in flex. If you read some of the stickies and some of the threads in the tech forums you'll have a good understanding of suspensions.
I read some of the threads and saw that once i disconnect the sway bars, the springs could become unseated, do bumpstops stop the spring from doing this?
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Sounds like I definitely want to go with the disconnects. Anyone recommend a brand? I have a stock hight 2000 sport.
As I said above, JKS is one of the more popular ones. They are not inexpensive, but look at what doors they open up to you. I love them!

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I read some of the threads and saw that once i disconnect the sway bars, the springs could become unseated, do bumpstops stop the spring from doing this?
Bumpstops are designed to limit the upper travel of your wheel into the well. This prevents damage that can be pretty severe. If you go to bigger tires and you disconnect and go into a full stuff (where your tire is all the way up into your fender) and the bumpstop is set at the incorrect length you can shred your expensive tire or bend up some metal. So when you go larger you usually end up getting bumpstop extensions. These account for the tire being farther up from the center of the wheel by keeping the axle from traveling up as high as when it was stock.

This problem is why flat fenders are so popular - you have less to hit and it is somewhat higher up. You can flex better or use a larger tire with the same bumpstops, etc.

A lot of guys used to go with *no* front fenders to have all the clearance they wanted.

Bumpstops are a good and very necessary thing. But do not just randomly mess with them.

Bumpstops can be purchased in different lengths, or you can extend them. A common way to do this is to bolt a special plate or disc onto the part of the axle that contacts the bump stop, which will limit how far the upward travel can be by the thickness of that plate.
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Someone local may have some stock links laying around if they've recently put a lift in. Throw it out there n c. I think I still have mine but I'm in ny. N it would prob cost more to send them to you than just to buy one. Think they r around 20$ at auto parts store. Prob best bet if your thinking of a lift in future. Just throw stock one on if worried bout safety. N buy urself some time to research discos n lifts
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Old 01-14-2014, 06:27 PM   #21
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Someone local may have some stock links laying around if they've recently put a lift in. Throw it out there n c. I think I still have mine but I'm in ny. N it would prob cost more to send them to you than just to buy one. Think they r around 20$ at auto parts store. Prob best bet if your thinking of a lift in future. Just throw stock one on if worried bout safety. N buy urself some time to research discos n lifts
Thanks for the offer I will check with my parts shop. You are prolly right about the shipping. Thanks for the offer tho
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Dumb question here. When I look at 4wd website for the linkage disconnects the ones that are for a no lift jeep come up that they do not fit and the ones that are lifted do. I have a 2000 Sport, and to my knowledge there is no lift kit.
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Dumb question here. When I look at 4wd website for the linkage disconnects the ones that are for a no lift jeep come up that they do not fit and the ones that are lifted do. I have a 2000 Sport, and to my knowledge there is no lift kit.
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Old 01-19-2014, 11:24 PM   #24
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I see nothing missing. Can you bolt it back together or is something absent?

Cheapest new fix I was able to find if your missing something.

Zone Offroad XJ, ZJ, TJ Front Sway Bar Link for 0-2" Lift / XJ, ZJ 3"
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Thanks for the link.
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http://www.jeep4x4center.com/jks-fro...-jks-2030.html

http://www.jeep4x4center.com/terafle...f-1753010.html

I'm in the market as well. Looks like 0" is more expensive than those for a lifted jk...?
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http://www.jeep4x4center.com/jks-fro...-jks-2030.html http://www.jeep4x4center.com/terafle...f-1753010.html I'm in the market as well. Looks like 0" is more expensive than those for a lifted jk...?
10 bucks cheaper after shipping. Teraflex 1753010 Sway Bar Quick Disconnects http://amzn.com/B006D9VYV6 Came with my lift. Work well. Had JKS prior. Over bilt. High quality but I chose to put in the light simple Teraflex ones even though I had the JKS in already. They were harder to grease to. The fittings were far from the bushings. Just little stuff but I like the Teraflex more.

Ps. These are jk parts in the past couple links.
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Saved, thank you. My fiance wants me to stay connected since a lot of drivers around here are unpredictable and, well, stupid. Apparently my life insurance policy isnt worth enough yet.

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