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Old 03-24-2012, 10:38 AM   #1
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Another Super 35 Question

Ok so in know a lot of theses questions have been asked before, and i have done my research on Superior's super 35 kit. Im still a little unsure as to whether or not the kit is right for me. I am on a tight budget, and my Jeep is my DD, and will be for awhile. I do wheel it on weekends, not serious wheeling..some rocks, mud and tight wooded area trails, and the occasional trip to Rausch Creek.
I currently run 33" tall tires with 4.56 gears w/5spd, and plan on going to 35s in the future, but i know thats impossible with a stock D35. I have been able to find a S35 kit with ARB air locker for about $1200, and i figure that would be pretty decent for the wheeling i do. I definitely do not have the money for a complete axle swap right now, and i already have upgraded gears that i could use again in my D35.

So i was just wanting to know some of the pros and cons about the Super 35 kit, and if it would fit my style of wheeling? Plus i do see a lot of snow on the roads during the winter.
I have seen some threads about this, but again..im looking for more of a direct response.
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Old 03-24-2012, 10:40 AM   #2
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If you have 1200 you have more enough for a 8.8 swap. However your getting an Arb too which is a good deal. I think the 35 kit would be a good choice for you personally. There's gona be advantages and disadvantages to any axle because someone will always have a complaint. Overall it's a good kit and you should be able to run those 35s without a problem.

Pros would be that you can keep stock gearing and pick up some 4.10s cheap and easy if you don't already have them. You don't have to mess around with getting all the welding and stuff done like if you pulled an axle.

One of the bigger cons is that the r/p becomes the weak point and is smaller than a 44 or 88

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Old 03-24-2012, 06:18 PM   #3
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I run the super 35 kit with a Detroit locker and 35s (was in the jeep when i got it) ive beat it pretty good (had it bouncing on rocks) and it hasnt let me down yet. It probably wouldnt have been my first choice but it came with the jeep so im gonna run it till it blows....
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Old 03-24-2012, 07:23 PM   #4
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I also run the super 35 and those axles have been beat to death and its held together strong for 5 years now.I installed the ox locker but your saying you can get the arb and the super35 axles jump on it!Thats a really good deal.I've heard the super35 is stronger then stock 44.
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Old 03-24-2012, 08:22 PM   #5
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dana S35 < any other axle swap and build. please
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Old 03-24-2012, 09:43 PM   #6
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dana S35 < any other axle swap and build. please
What?

I know it's not the best but it's a good choice for some situations.
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Old 03-24-2012, 09:56 PM   #7
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Thanks for the info guys. I was actually looking at an 8.8 swap for while, but i really don't feel like going through all the work of welding new brackets on, ect. And i do like the fact that i can get an ARB with the super 35 kit for cheap, so looks like i might be going that route. Im also glad to see that you guys beat the living crap out of the super 35 kit, and still have it going strong several years later.
I have also heard that the super 35 was stronger than a stock dana 44...not sure if that's true, but i do know that the dana 35 has weaker axle tubes that bend easier than a dana 44.
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Old 03-24-2012, 10:00 PM   #8
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I run the super 35 kit with a Detroit locker and 35s (was in the jeep when i got it) ive beat it pretty good (had it bouncing on rocks) and it hasnt let me down yet. It probably wouldnt have been my first choice but it came with the jeep so im gonna run it till it blows....
I also see your running 35s with 4.56 with a 5 speed, how is it? Ill probably be running the same setup since i had new 4.56s installed about 6 months ago
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but i do know that the dana 35 has weaker axle tubes that bend easier than a dana 44.
What you do know is incorrect. The D35 and D44 use the same tubes.
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What you do know is incorrect. The D35 and D44 use the same tubes.
Just based on info that i have read from other threads about the Super 35 kit
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Just based on info that i have read from other threads about the Super 35 kit
The Superior Axle Super 35 kit has nothing to do with the axle tubes. Yes, the axles used in a S35 kit are stronger than stock D44 axles.

I run a S35 kit and I really like it.
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The tubes are the same, however I have heard that the tubes on xjs aren't exactly the same, with the d44 being slightly larger. I can't confirm that because I don't own one. And ways the shafts from a 35s are stronger than a stock 44s and so is te carrier since your be replacing with an Aussie or the like. The r/p is limited to 4.88 I think and is always gona be weaker than a larger axle, along with bearings and housings.
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Just be aware that the shafts are no longer the weak link but rather the r&p especially in 4.88 flavor. For this reason I am going back to 4.10s and will never run a tire larger than 33s. But I am running a V8.

You should be ok if you are running a 6 but still be cautious with the stupid pedal.
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Just be aware that the shafts are no longer the weak link but rather the r&p especially in 4.88 flavor. For this reason I am going back to 4.10s and will never run a tire larger than 33s. But I am running a V8.

You should be ok if you are running a 6 but still be cautious with the stupid pedal.
Yeah I would say a v8 would push everything a little bit more.
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Well i figure ill probably be running 4.56s with 33s as i am now, then eventually 35s with 4.56s. Hopefully by then ill have enough money for a 4.7 stroker
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Well i figure ill probably be running 4.56s with 33s as i am now, then eventually 35s with 4.56s. Hopefully by then ill have enough money for a 4.7 stroker
Then you'll need new axles again
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I also see your running 35s with 4.56 with a 5 speed, how is it? Ill probably be running the same setup since i had new 4.56s installed about 6 months ago
Its ok. 4.88 would def be better, but the 4.56 was in the jeep when i got it. on the street its fine, i use 5th gear and it will still accelorate on the highway, offroad it would be nice to have the lower gears.
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Then you'll need new axles again
Why? Would i not be able to run a stroker with a S35 kit?
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Why? Would i not be able to run a stroker with a S35 kit?
4.88s 35s lockers and a stroker would be pushing even a S35 in my mind. Unlocked would prob be fine.
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4.88s 35s lockers and a stroker would be pushing even a S35 in my mind. Unlocked would prob be fine.
So i would probably be better off doing an 8.8 or D44 swap, than a S35 kit, in order to handle a stroker....And do you think a D30 up front would handle it as well?
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So i would probably be better off doing an 8.8 or D44 swap, than a S35 kit, in order to handle a stroker....And do you think a D30 up front would handle it as well?
HardcoreTJ runs a V8 with his S35 kit. Locked on 32" tires. You'd have to ask him, but he hasn't had many troubles with it as far as I know.
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HardcoreTJ runs a V8 with his S35 kit. Locked on 32" tires. You'd have to ask him, but he hasn't had many troubles with it as far as I know.
He already stated in a previous post that he wouldn't run tires bigger than 33" again with 4.10s...i plan on running 35s

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