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Old 12-03-2013, 10:47 PM   #1
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Another Tire carrier/bumper post:

I have been burning up the internet trying to find a spare carrier that required no modification to work in a "reasonably expected fashion."

If I am going to spend $450-$690 I want something that I do not have to buy some "extras" for, in order for it to work as one would expect a spare tire carrier should work. It completely unfair to expect me to pay for "tire spacers" made out of ten cent ABS plastic when it is impossible to mount your stock tire on the tire carrier. Are they all smoking crack?

Why should I spend the big bucks yet still have to buy "Frame Tie-in Brackets"?

Or "Paint or Powder Coat it" myself? Oh it gets much better than this, I am just touching on the highlights. If you know what I mean.

Am I expecting too much to spend large money on something that is going to rattle on every bump like a rock in a mnt. dew can tied to the bumper?

So here is what I did. I found nothing that had any promise of being worthy of spending $500+ for. So I am not going to buy a spare tire carrier/bumper this year.

Instead I bought a Beretta M-9 for my Christmas present. There was nothing I had to buy except ammunition. It came ready to go. Everything fit perfectly and I did not have to paint it. So far it has not rattled, squeeked, had a weld failure or a hole miss drilled nor had any missing hardware. Win-win.

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Old 12-04-2013, 08:10 AM   #2
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Does it reload itself or pick up its own brass? Does it clean itself when you are through with it? Are you on crack?

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Old 12-04-2013, 10:56 PM   #3
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Well, no. It does not load itself. It is the current handgun our service men and women use to defend themselves in a hostile environment. Perhaps you have heard of the conflict in Afghanistan? There are a few firearms that load themselves but it is limited. None of them are handguns.

No firearm picks up its own brass I am sorry to say. That technology would be better suited to other, more prolific endeavors.

It does not clean itself. Having proudly served in the US Armed Forces with an MOS in MicroWave Telecomunications, I happen to know a little bit about ballistics and offroad vehicles. NOT MUCH. BUT A LITTLE.

So humor me here bro. I simply do not think its worthwhile to spend a thousand dollars to get a decent bumper and spare tire carrier.
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Old 12-04-2013, 11:03 PM   #4
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Well, no. It does not load itself. It is the current handgun our service men and women use to defend themselves in a hostile environment. Perhaps you have heard of the conflict in Afghanistan? There are a few firearms that load themselves but it is limited. None of them are handguns. No firearm picks up its own brass I am sorry to say. That technology would be better suited to other, more prolific endeavors. It does not clean itself. Having proudly served in the US Armed Forces with an MOS in MicroWave Telecomunications, I happen to know a little bit about ballistics and offroad vehicles. NOT MUCH. BUT A LITTLE. So humor me here bro. I simply do not think its worthwhile to spend a thousand dollars to get a decent bumper and spare tire carrier.
Thanks for your service and congrats on the new purchase. I can't wait for next year when I turn 21 and I can get my pistol permit..I feel you on the tire carriers it is major BS that they expect you to buy extra parts and still pay $600+
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Old 12-04-2013, 11:08 PM   #5
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Look at orfab swing out tire carrier. I just bought one "used" and it's top notch.
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Old 12-04-2013, 11:33 PM   #6
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Yeah I think you'd be able to find plenty of positive reviews you're over thinking it....
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Old 12-05-2013, 12:09 AM   #7
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Yeah I just posted something similar on another thread, but my Lod signature series tire carrier was $700 and it came powder coated, with frame tie in brackets, and everything I could need. Down to a cb antenna mount and it was ready for a hi-lift. Its also designed to brace itself against the stock rubber spare tire isolators on the tailgate, so I feel confident I'll never hear a rattle out of it as long as it is adjusted correctly. They have a $600 dollar model that looks like the tire swing is designed in a similar manner.
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Old 12-05-2013, 12:37 AM   #8
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Hmmm, microwave telecommunications Eh? Does this mean you dealt with ..... wait for it.... Heated-phone-conversations???

Here is a pic of a tire carrier I built myself. I later added a tool box right above the fuel cans. It worked pretty good until the spindle gave out and the shaft snapped in two. luckily we were on a dirt road with no one behind us.

Here is also a pic of my 92F. It served 12 yrs in armored trucks, been refinished twice by myself. I only had a one problem with it which was operator error. A stove pipe for not cleaning / oiling it for 6 mos. Thank goodness it was at the range and not in the field.
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Old 12-07-2013, 12:01 AM   #9
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25P, if we are talking MOS here. Not so sure from the flame direction. Paid my dues in the big sandbox. Have a few pix & T-shirts to prove it.

Hey Mr. "4X" expert, my Army days as a 25P were mostly spent dealing with those pesky TROPO masts. They were about 20" tall. You probably dont know what I am talking about.

But hey, here's a pic o' me and some of my buddies. Doin a long range thing with some "microwave telecommunication" gear on my back.

we all made it back and they are my friends to this day.

callbob? Why do you have to be so rude?
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Old 12-07-2013, 08:48 AM   #10
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I am being rude for you wanting something for nothing, completely turn key, built to your specs, and for what you think it is worth.? And then you compare it to a gun? It's a jeep son, there are literally hundreds of options for any add ons you can think of. Price and quality? Again, personal preference and experience play a big part in this decision. The perfect part for a perfect jeep? Doesnt exist young man, at least not in the 6 or so jeeps I have owned. You know what though? I am lucky enough to possess the skill, tools or friends with more talent than me to make the part better if need be.
Learn some skills and learn how to fix your jeep without whining about getting something cheap and perfect. We all want that but cheap and perfect dont go together. Have a good holiday young man and thank you for your service
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Old 12-07-2013, 10:09 AM   #11
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There is a member selling the OR Fab carrier in the FS forum in Texas for $350. If I still lived there I'd be all over it. I hear ya on the guns brother. I retire in 3 months after doing my 20 and just had to buy my own first handgun since I joined. Was a actually excited until I had to start forking $$ over for ammo. Hopefully prices come down but having been in the same bait as you, unfortunately there aren't many good cheap tire carriers. Can always try to have someone fabricate one.
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Old 12-08-2013, 12:40 AM   #12
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Thanks for the lead "bigkidneys" I will check it out.

Hey "callbob" don't get your shorts in a knot. The linear progression was: I had $600 to spend for a tire carrier bumper.
It had to be painted black.
It had to hold a spare up to 33".
It had to bolt on and come with the bolts.
I expected it to not rattle.
Though I have a Miller 211 with a bottle of gas, I choose not to hand someone $600 and have to weld it up. For $300? Sure, I can weld a solid wire MIG bead that looks like TIG.
My objection was the "little add ons". Rubber bumper tire stops, frame tie ins, painted metal? How about hand packed for an extra $20?

But hey, I spent the $600 I had set aside for a 9 mm pistol. Sorry, I didnt mean this to be so complicated for you.
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Old 12-08-2013, 08:22 AM   #13
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Not difficult for me youngster. I already had a glock 40 (among others) so I spent 655 and got ftont and rear bumpers with tire carrier and it holds a 35 quite well thank you. Did I have to do a little work on them. Well not really but I did build some rubber stops for the tire carrier just because I wanted to improve on what was there. Point being I got what I wanted and if I had to do a little work to make it the way I wanted than so be it. Cant mount my 35 spare on the frame of my glock now can I. Apparently your priorities are different son.
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Old 12-08-2013, 09:26 AM   #15
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I appreciate your service. I would like to see the pic of how you mounted the tire to the 9mm and solved your spare problem.
Have you ever built a bumper? I have built several. These are my most recent.

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It takes a fair amount of labor, skill, and tools to fab a nice looking bumper and most people place value on their time. I have family in the wholesale steel industry and I still had about $150 in material, paint, pivot, etc. Then there are a bunch of overhead costs like shop expenses, electricity, liability, shipping/delivery of materials, etc.
If you want an inexpensive well built bumper do some research and put that welder to work. Save the cash and invest some sweat equity.
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Old 12-08-2013, 09:43 AM   #16
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I paid $400 for the exogate carrier and it came with everything needed, no fancy mods, no extra paint, no rattles. and it will handle a 40" tire
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Old 12-08-2013, 05:41 PM   #17
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Nice looking work there All Terrain!

I paid around $600 for XRC bumper and tire carrier (on sale at the time). No rattles, class 3 rated hitch. I'm not in love with the "bearing" on the swing arm, but as long as I keep it greased it should serve the purpose. Currently holding a stock spare with room for up to a 40" I think. You have to saws all the stock plastic 3rd brake light and bolt it to the provided adapter, then splice in longer wiring but it looks fine once done.

PS thanks to all the Vets in the previous posts, appreciate you guys.

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