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Old 09-04-2006, 08:07 AM   #61
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Let's face it a SWB jeep has a better turning radius than my lawn mower. On the trail maneuverability is paramount. LG's are designed for wannabe's to drive to starbucks.
may have better turning radius but doesn't mean that the LJ's aren't better offroad than the SWB in some areas...did you see JeepGuyLJ's pics? looks like he does pretty well offroad! and i didn't know they had starbucks out there!!!

and a jeep is a jeep...as long as it aint sittin on dubs then its great and no one should criticize!

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Old 09-04-2006, 12:57 PM   #62
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I love my SWB.... but I had some difficulty climbing up this rock. Now I have an 2003 Rubicon 4” long arm lift 1” body on 35" BFG Krawlers. I made many attempts before I finally made it up. I’m embarrassed to say it took me about 15 minutes to finally get up it. If you look at the picture, you can see my problem. The angle of my jeep caused all my weight to shift to the back. Front tires didn’t have any weight on them so they just spun and couldn’t get the grip needed to pull me up. Back tires had a vertical climb with all the weight shifted on them. In any case, my buddy with his LJ made it with a 5.5” lift on 35’s climbed up this first time like it was flat ground. The reason for this was his longer wheelbase, he had gotten more weight on the rock before his rear tires hit the vertical of the rock. His fronts had enough weight to pull his rear right up. I love my SWB and would probably never own a Unlimited, but they are Jeeps and in some cases (like this rock I showed you) can out perform us SWB Jeeps. We should not think of LJs as just mall crawlers or only good to send on coffee runs. They are ALL JEEP!


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Old 09-04-2006, 04:23 PM   #63
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thats pretty steep...i can see why it was tough
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Old 09-04-2006, 05:14 PM   #64
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Nice pic looks like a really good trail to have alot of fun at.
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Old 09-04-2006, 08:29 PM   #65
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It's a good thing the internet is relatively young or some of us would still be arguing how the MB was better and Jeep never should have changed anything.
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Old 09-05-2006, 01:06 AM   #66
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Best for snow, mug and icy roads?

In theory or fact, what would be best for getting around in snow or out of deep mud (or overall bad road condition in the mountains) -- SWB or LWB?
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In theory or fact, what would be best for getting around in snow or out of deep mud (or overall bad road condition in the mountains) -- SWB or LWB?
LWB will handle better in the snow... The back end will not be as likely to pass the front... In deep mud, you won't see much difference though.
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Old 09-05-2006, 09:51 AM   #68
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In theory or fact, what would be best for getting around in snow or out of deep mud (or overall bad road condition in the mountains) -- SWB or LWB?
i guess SWB would do better in mud holes because theres less to come through the mud
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Old 09-28-2006, 04:04 PM   #69
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There is a difference between a Stretched (lets assume the stretch equals a stock LJ) wheelbase on a TJ and a stock wheelbase LJ.

The TJ would have the rear wheels moved farther back making the departure angle probably over 90 degrees while the LJ will be banging the bumper. The wheelbase on the LJ is an advantage but the extra body length behind the axle is a disadvantage. But that disadvantage is no worse than a stock SWB TJ.

Like was said before....after you get past 35" tires you are going to be looking for much harder trails. This means you will need the extra wheelbase for stability and climbing ability. I mean a set of 40" tires on a SWB TJ would look rediculous and be unstable.
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Old 09-28-2006, 04:33 PM   #70
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Here's a reason to go SWB over LWD. Every LWB got stuck on this little hill. Not a single SWB (lifted or not) got stuck.



I tried to rotate this one with no luck. Turn your monitor on it's side.

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I love my SWB.... but I had some difficulty climbing up this rock. Now I have an 2003 Rubicon 4” long arm lift 1” body on 35" BFG Krawlers. I made many attempts before I finally made it up. I’m embarrassed to say it took me about 15 minutes to finally get up it. If you look at the picture, you can see my problem. The angle of my jeep caused all my weight to shift to the back. Front tires didn’t have any weight on them so they just spun and couldn’t get the grip needed to pull me up. Back tires had a vertical climb with all the weight shifted on them. In any case, my buddy with his LJ made it with a 5.5” lift on 35’s climbed up this first time like it was flat ground. The reason for this was his longer wheelbase, he had gotten more weight on the rock before his rear tires hit the vertical of the rock. His fronts had enough weight to pull his rear right up. I love my SWB and would probably never own a Unlimited, but they are Jeeps and in some cases (like this rock I showed you) can out perform us SWB Jeeps. We should not think of LJs as just mall crawlers or only good to send on coffee runs. They are ALL JEEP!


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Everything I would have said has been said already...It's all about taste, and we can't hold taste against anyone. If you don't like it, don't get it. It's as simple as that.

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