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Old 05-06-2010, 09:20 AM   #1
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Talking Any sugestions on a winch NOT to buy

Getting ready to mount my custom winch bumper from dirtworx. Any suggestions on what brands not to buy.

I figured anything that says made in china or harbor freight is probly bad.
I dont go rock crawing much , just mostly mudding and trail running. And to use it to pull people out of the ditch in the winter.

Winches are new to me, how many pound winch will I need to at least pull myself out of a tight spot?

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I'm with you on not wanting a cheap winch from China... for that reason, I personally wouldn't buy a Smittybilt, Milemarker electric, Champion, Bulldog, Chicago Electric, etc.

In fact, after having my last TJ stolen that had an American-made Warn HS-9500i on it that worked superbly throughout the ten years I had the winch, I just installed another Warn on my replacment '04 TJ... Warn's new 9.5 XP. Besides Warn, you can also trust a Tabor, Ramsey and the two American-made Superwinch models like their X9 and S9000. My personal recommendation is Warn. Tabor is a good choice too, it is actually made by Warn to be a more affordable winch but comes with a one year mechanical/electrical warranty vs. Warn's lifetime mechanical/one year electrical warranty. Warn's M8000 is their bargain good quality winch at the moment.

For a Wrangler, you want a winch with anywhere from 8,000 to 9,500 lbs. of capacity. The smaller the winch, the more amperage it pulls when pulling the same load so if you can afford it, it's better to have a bigger capacity winch.

And yes, a winch can be installed onto a stock bumper. A winch does not mount to the bumper, its mounting bolts only pass through the bumper to the frame below.

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Thanks again Jerry, my bumper has a winch plate welded on it across where the mounting bolts mount the bumper to the frame too. Robert at the dirtworx built this custom for me, very tough. If I hit someone, they are def not going to drive away, as I probly will be able to.
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Warn is a great winch i had one on my YJ,my TJ has a mile marker 12,000lb and it works great plus its only $800 for the 12lb, a 9500lb warn will cost ya $1,200 so i guess it all depends on what ya wanna spend!!
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I only spent $1090, freight charge included, for my brand-new Warn 9.5 XP.
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I only spent $1090, freight charge included, for my brand-new Warn 9.5 XP.
WOW I cant spend that much right now, (have a new baby) any suggestions on a lower cost one that will still hold up. I know better to ask but still did.
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As already suggested above, Warn's M8000 is a much less expensive winch yet still has very good quality and will work fine for your TJ. They are easily found in the low $500 range. http://www.google.com/products?q=war...e1=500&price2=
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cool thats what I was lookin for
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Also save up for synthetic rope!!! It will do wonders on saving you when you have to pull the line out a few times a day. The cable gets really heavy lol
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The cable gets really heavy lol
why you gettin stuck so many times in one day ?
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Not me it is stupid people wheeling in mud clay with stocker tires and getting into really hairy spots lol. I don't get stuck you must of missed that memo
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Anyone seen a Warn M8000 for sale with Syn rope? I too would prefer it, and don't want to have a spare metal rope laying around...wanting it to come ready to go.
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Not me it is stupid people wheeling in mud clay with stocker tires and getting into really hairy spots lol. I don't get stuck you must of missed that memo
My understanding is a tow strap is your best friend
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You can go right to warn and order it that way with the sythentic rope for an extra cost like 250 more.

To cons this is all-:flip off:
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why you gettin stuck so many times in one day ?
If you're not gettin' stuck more than once, you're on too easy of a trail.
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If you're not gettin' stuck more than once, you're on too easy of a trail.
Wonder what jd is drivin on then...he "never gets stuck"
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You can still find great deals on Warn M8000 if you look around.
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I went to griggsvile last weekend on a little run it rained non stop fri=good day,sat= winching up every hill that i climbed on fri but that was still a blast !!!One big long hill took 3 times to make itto the top that one not so much fun lol
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I know you guys love bashing on Smittybuilts and I'm new to mine, but it only cost me $250!! Is the XRC8. I can buy a couple of warns for that. I use mine as much as you will be AndyMan and I've had no troubles... Again it only been my first season.

Plus I like having the steel cable.... Makes a great 90' zip line!!!
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Plus 4wheelparts.com offered lifetime warranty for 30$
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Smittybuilt xrc8 with synthetic line and fairlead $449 with free shipping and $50 mail in rebate on 4wheelparts.com If I could add a lifetime warrantee with that I'd almost be sold.
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That lifetime warranty doesn't mean chit when your 50 miles from nowhere no cell service stuck and if doesn't work. I guess a Warn might break down but I think I would prefer to trust the Warn. But then again not many places left where you can get that far away.
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Yep like chrome, a lifetime warranty doesn't get you home (or unstuck). Some of the shoddiest crappy products like the waterpumps sold by Autozone come with a lifetime warranty. I wouldn't touch or buy any of those items, lifetime warranty or not.
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Piece of crap or not, at least I could get another if or when it malfunctioned.
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I also bought the Smittybuilt with synthetic line and a life time warranty. Last weekend I had to pull my friend and his Land Cruiser out because his high dollar Warn had a problem with the gears. Doh! Bottom line is, anything (including a Warn) that is mechanical can fail. Now my friend gets to package and ship his winch to see how much it will cost to repair. If my Smittybuilt fails, like my friend, I will have someone with me on the trail to help me out. However, worst case scenario, I will only have to drive 30 miles to drop my winch on the counter and get a replacement. Oh, and he was very impressed that my winch pulled out his Land Cruiser (FJ 80). YMMV.
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I also bought the Smittybuilt with synthetic line and a life time warranty. Last weekend I had to pull my friend and his Land Cruiser out because his high dollar Warn had a problem with the gears. Doh! Bottom line is, anything (including a Warn) that is mechanical can fail. Now my friend gets to package and ship his winch to see how much it will cost to repair. If my Smittybuilt fails, like my friend, I will have someone with me on the trail to help me out. However, worst case scenario, I will only have to drive 30 miles to drop my winch on the counter and get a replacement. Oh, and he was very impressed that my winch pulled out his Land Cruiser (FJ 80). YMMV.

I have heard just as much good and bad on a warn and a smittybuilt, ill take my chances.
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The only brand of winch I would ever buy is Warn. I have the XD9000i, and have used it for about 5 years. I would say I have more pulls on it than most people will use in a lifetime. About half for myself, and half for others.
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Warn is the only brand of winch that will ever grace any of my rigs. I always tell people that if they can't afford the best, then to keep saving until they can. Simple home economics.

There's a reason why Smittybuilt is always the lowest bidder. You get what you pay for.

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