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Old 02-12-2012, 01:35 AM   #1
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any way to lift an lj without having to do a slip yoke.

I want to lift it 4 inches but I don't want to deal with the sye is there any way to raise her without dealing with that? If not how high can I go without dealing with it. I rarely take her off road. I was thinking a 3.25 inch lift with a 1 inch body possibly?

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Old 02-12-2012, 01:52 AM   #2
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Just do a 3 inch suspension and walk away, I personally hate body lifts of any sort. A 1 inch wouldn't kill though

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Old 02-12-2012, 04:57 AM   #3
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2.5"-3" suspension lift + 1.25" BL + 1" MML
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2.5"-3" suspension lift + 1.25" BL + 1" MML
x2 OME would be my choice that is the route I am on. I had the OME installed Feb'11 and no issues with driveline on or off road in the past year....while on vaca this summer my'04 will get the 1.25BL and MML..(I am takin' the JK.)

Than LIL RED won't be so little...33s are next!! Than it's DONE!!!

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Old 02-12-2012, 06:06 AM   #5
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You can do a 4" lift and do a transfer case drop. 1 or 1.5" drop should do it. That's really your only other alternative to an SYE if you want to lift it 4" or more.
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Old 02-12-2012, 08:32 AM   #6
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Zone offers a 4.25 combo. 3" suspension, 1.25 bl
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Zone offers a 4.25 combo. 3" suspension, 1.25 bl
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Old 02-12-2012, 10:56 AM   #8
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How difficult is the motor mount lift? I also heard ljs may not be as suseptsble to drivline vibes.
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It's simple geometry man. You have a significantly longer drive shaft than a short wheelbase TJ so at any given height, the angle the u-joints will be seeing will be comparatively less. As for a slip yoke, you already have one. I'm guessing you were talking about a slip yoke ELIMINATOR, which replaces the stock slip yoke rear output with a fixed yoke. The shorter housing allows you to run a longer drive shaft and the fixed yoke allows you to run a double cardan drive shaft to handle the increased angles. You may or may not be able to run 4" coils on it without getting driveline vibes, as that's the typical threshold. If you ever want to get rid of that god-awful stock belly pan and tuck the drivetrain, you'll need the fixed yoke. You're really making the mistake of viewing the SYE and accommodating modifications as a hassle, which is false. You have no idea how much better a Jeep can perform and drive until you feel the difference.
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Old 02-12-2012, 03:17 PM   #10
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The MML can be a PITA but if you stick with it it's not so bad once it's done. I installed a 1" JKS budget lift along with a 1 1/4" JKS BL. The MML is easier if you are prepared ahead of time with the proper tools and a couple extra hands.
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2.5"-3" suspension lift + 1.25" BL + 1" MML
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What language is this?
Jeepese.

BL = Body lift MML = motor mount lift

And to the OP - My LJ had a 2" suspension with a 3/4" spacer on the front springs and a 1.25 BL (equals 4" in front - sat level) and 1"MML and 33x12.50 MTZs - no SYE/CV. Added some hockey pucks to the bump stops and slightly trimmed the flares. No rub and no vibes.

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Jeepese..... lol
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Jeepese..... lol
I screwed it up...it's Jeepanese.
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Old 02-12-2012, 05:49 PM   #15
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Is it more difficult to install a mm lift or an sye?
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Is it more difficult to install a mm lift or an sye?
Both are easy and straight forward. I don't consider them competitors. They both do different things and are both useful and functional.
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With a 3 inch ss lift and a 1 inch body. I need the following, correct?

An sye or mml
Extended brakelines

Correct?
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http://www.jeeperz-creeperz.com/manu...-p-124105.html

This is what I was thinking about.
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You shouldn't need new brake lines
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Shouldn't NEED the MML either...most people do it to help reduce potential vibes (it tilts the rear of the transfer case downward reducing the driveshaft angle) and eliminate the need for a transfer case drop. Plus if you do it in conjunction with a body lift, you won't have to relocate your fan shroud.
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Old 02-13-2012, 08:26 AM   #21
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If you do the body lift, do the MML. It only helps and sets you up for the future. Extended front brake lines certainly wouldn't hurt. Get some YJ lines from a parts store....they're 3" longer.
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Old Man Emu Ultimate TJ/LJ Wrangler Kit | dpgoffroad.com

This is what i put on my lj. No vibes and install was pretty easy.
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I screwed it up...it's Jeepanese.
Still funny... first thing that came to my mind and I scroll down, and there it was That and Jeeometry .
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Old 02-13-2012, 03:33 PM   #24
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I may just go with a 3 inch zone

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