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Old 12-18-2008, 12:20 PM   #1
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Question Anybody running 3.5" RE lift and 33's?

I am considering installing a RE 3.5" Super Flex kit on my son's 2001 TJ. We are running 33x12.50 BFG AT's currently and will probably upgrade to a more aggressive tire after the lift. I was wondering if anyone would share some pics of their rigs with a similiar set up and any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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I would say 33's are max for this lift. I'm running the 4.5 SuperFlex kit (comes with adjustable upper arms) but have 3.5" springs. I'm running 32's and it looks good and performs great. 33's would be the BIGGEST tire I would use with these springs to be honest.

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Old 12-18-2008, 12:58 PM   #3
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i run 33s on about 2.5'' of lift total including body lift.. didnt rub at all the last time i was offroading.. and i even had the front discod the whole day

id stick with 33s up to 4.5'' of lift.. then maybe you can stuff 35s under it..

also you got to keep in mind that the rear axle may be a d35 and wont handle the stress of oversized tires.. especially with a teenager driving.. (heck im only 20 and i know if i had my jeep lifted in highschool and didnt swap the d35 for the d44, id have snapped my axles on more than one occasion.. i use to ride my jeep rough until it became my problem to fix and also i want to keep it and not make it into a beater any time soon
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RE's 3.5" suspension lifts are generally always more like 4" to 4.5" in reality once installed... their springs are pretty tall, taller than advertised. You'd have no problem running 33" tires with that kit and with a 1" body lift, it'd be fine with 35" tires as well.

That particular suspension lift you're looking at is a very good quality kit and it will perform very well on both the street and trail. I only STRONGLY recommend you avoid buying RE's twin-tube shocks with it as they are extremely stiff riding, too stiff for most Jeepers. Instead, I'd either go with RE's Monotube shocks which ride much (!) better and also include a lifetime warranty. Or for less $$$, Skyjacker's Hydro (not Nitro!) shocks.
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Old 12-18-2008, 01:23 PM   #5
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I run the RE 3.5 superflex lift with 33x12.5x15 BFG A/T KOs. I upgraded my kit to include adjustable control arms all around, upper and lower. Plus the RE adjustable front track bar. I went with JKS discos and Rancho 9000x adjustable shocks with the in-cab controller. I love this set-up. It is also my daily driver, the ride on the street is very good (better than stock) and it performs very well offroad and in the rocks. There is no problem at all with the 33s, they stuff pretty well and I have no rubbing unless I'm flexed to the limits.

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Old 12-18-2008, 01:24 PM   #6
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I highly suggest the RE 3.5 Super Flex kit. I would also suggest you buy their monotube shocks to go with it to round off the package. I can't say enough about the quality of their stuff.. I installed this almost 2 years ago and have not had any issues.

The tires are Super Swamper TSL radials 33" x 10.5" on stock rims. If you intend to put an aftermarket front bumper on and a winch, make sure you get 1.5" coil spacers and add them while you are doing the lift. I added the JKS adjustable spacer after this picture was taken.

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Nice, Heart Attack Hill! I haven't done that in years. That's a scary dropoff at first, isn't it.
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x3 on the extra coin for the RE monotubes..

i ran procomp 3000es twintubes for about a week before i ordered my RE monotubes.. had my pc shocks off within the first month

the RE monotubes are great.. i think they are better than stock by far..
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MOz, what's that chain for between your D-rings? To prevent rocks from hitting your front diff by stopping all forward progress on the trail when there's a rock or other obstacle in front of you?
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MOz, what's that chain for between your D-rings? To prevent rocks from hitting your front diff by stopping all forward progress on the trail when there's a rock or other obstacle in front of you?
I know... I've caught some hell for this before. It use to be my tree saver before I bought a tree saver. You guys have helped me refine my ways.
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Nice, Heart Attack Hill! I haven't done that in years. That's a scary dropoff at first, isn't it.
Yep... and it gets better about half way down when you loose traction and start to slide.
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Jerry, honest, I have changed my ways.

This was shot this past summer in the Adirondack Mountains in upper state NY. See, no chain.
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Nice, Heart Attack Hill! I haven't done that in years. That's a scary dropoff at first, isn't it.
They should rename that trail to butt pucker hill. I'm sure the pictures do not do any justice to the real thing.
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Yep... and it gets better about half way down when you loose traction and start to slide.
With my TJ taller than what it was years ago when I last did HAH, I'm not so sure I could get talked into doing it again. I like tough challenging trails but HAH honestly scares me until I get down past the drop-off.
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....I'm not so sure I could get talked into doing it again. I like tough challenging trails but HAH honestly scares me until I get down past the drop-off.
Shhhhh, keep that quiet, I've managed to get tiny down it twice

Sorry to hi-jack your thread LB. Back on topic.... As I said before, what you are looking at is an excelent choice in short arm lifts. RE has quality products and great customer service.
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It's even more fun watching your 18 year old son do it in a stock TJ!

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Old 12-20-2008, 03:03 AM   #17
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Thanks for the input and pictures. I am a little nervous about the D35/D30 axle setup. I'm not sure which direction will be best. Super 35 or just a D44 swap. We are not hard core off-roaders, YET, but I do like having a very reliable vehicle. I was also wondering about the need for a SYE kit and the best way to go with this also. I already installed some Rancho RS9000xl shocks, so I think we are covered there. I will try to post some pics of the current setup. Thanks again for the help.
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You already have the Rancho shocks installed? If so, they will need to be replaced with longer shocks when you install the RE 3.5" lift. For 4" and taller suspension lifts, which includes the RE 3.5" (because it is more like 4" to 4.5"), a SYE kit and CV driveshaft is highly recommended. A Super 35 kit would be fine for you if you want a locker, a Super 35 kit from Superior Axle will handle up to 35" tires without problem. There are weaker imitation "Super 35" kit made by other companies, avoid them.
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When I ordered the shocks, we got ones for up to a 4" lift. Currently the TJ sits on some sort of BB. The front measures 2.75" with the factory rubber spring spacer. This was on the rig when I bought it. I have also heard of axle warpage with a D35. Do they need a truss or will the Super 35 with an ARB locker be sufficient?
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Hey Unlimited, where did you find that nice desert camo winch cover, and how much did you pay for it?? I like it!
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I have also heard of axle warpage with a D35. Do they need a truss or will the Super 35 with an ARB locker be sufficient?
The TJ's Dana 35c uses the same axle tubes as the TJ's Dana 44 does. So while the 35c's housing isn't as strong and can allow the tubes to bend a little more easily, axle flex doesn't happen enough to worry about except for those who are just hammering their rigs on very tough trails. A truss would be a good idea for really tough trails but few really need it

With a Super 35 and an ARB locker, you should be fine with up to 35" tires on pretty much any non-extreme 5++ rated trail.
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pic of a re 4.5 spring with a 1" b.l and 33's
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Here are some pics of my son's 01 TJ. I picked her up this past summer in Dallas as seen in the first pics. Very, very clean and only 34K miles. Got her for 13,500. Not the best price, but in great shape with 4 brand new 33" BFG AT's and BB. Since then, added Rancho RS9000XL shocks, Superlift adj. front track bar(Not real happy with this one), new ProComp wheels and a 5th 33" BFG hanging on a Bestop rear tire carrier. Body Armour side rocker guards(bolt-on) and we really like this set up, Bestop front and rear HighRock bumpers with Warn M8000 winch and KC fog lights that I had to fabricate mounting points for on the front bumber, and a Tuffy center console. Just added some Polk audio speakers to upgrade the sound. For Xmas, my son got 6" Bushwacker fender flares, KC driving lights and windshield brackets, WetOkole seat covers, Bestop Safari top and header. It will be some time for me to get the new mods installed, since I just had knee surgery, but I'll update pics when there done. Thanks for all the help.
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i run 32'' wigh my 3.5 re and at full flex My front rubs the fender well. this is with a .75'' spacer.. but no bumpstops
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A lifted Jeep without the proper height bump stops is like a kiss without the squeeze.
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A lifted Jeep without the proper height bump stops is like a kiss without the squeeze.
I assume that is not the way to do it. Don't most kits come with bumpstops? I appreciate the help, it does seem like you know a thing or two about the Jeeps. My son is ready to get started on the new upgrades to his TJ as soon as I can get around better. What do you think about the TJ, honestly. Are going in a good direction or should I change up some things?
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I assume that is not the way to do it. Don't most kits come with bumpstops? I appreciate the help, it does seem like you know a thing or two about the Jeeps. My son is ready to get started on the new upgrades to his TJ as soon as I can get around better. What do you think about the TJ, honestly. Are going in a good direction or should I change up some things?
The RE lift you're looking at would be a very good choice and it does include bump stops. So my comment on bumpstops wasn't directed at you, just someone mentioned running without them.

Bumpstops prevent the tire from being stuffed too far into the wheelwell where there are sharp pointy things like sheet metal screws that damage tires on uneven offroad trails. They also prevent the tires from rubbing on the fender flares excessively when offroad.

So just install the bumpstops that come with the RE kit and you'll be fine.
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On a side note: hanging that 33 on the tailgate will cause you problems in the long run. The hinges will sag and crack as will the tire carrier that is bolted to the tailgate. You really need a tire carrier that is made for a tire that big. I run the ORF carrier like Jerry does. I've been incredibly happy with it.

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On a side note: hanging that 33 on the tailgate will cause you problems in the long run. The hinges will sag and crack as will the tire carrier that is bolted to the tailgate. You really need a tire carrier that is made for a tire that big. I run the ORF carrier like Jerry does. I've been incredibly happy with it.

I installed a Bestop rear tire carrier that uses brackets that attach to the roll bar and lower frame rail. So far it seems to be fine.

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