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Old 06-02-2014, 10:02 PM   #1
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Anyone else love stock TJs?

By stock I mean not lifted and fitted with huge tires. I love other things like light bars, aftermarket bumpers, winches, etc. While a good lift and tires can make a jeep look pretty solid, I seem to prefer jeeps that aren't lifted. It seems like everyone on this forum either has or wants a lift on their jeep. Maybe alot of you do need it. But for me with the jeep as a DD and only offroad maybe 5% of the time, stock is great. I don't do any rock crawling but I can do some decent offroading. And I get decent gas mileage and a nice ride.
I guess if your into rock crawling it makes sense to go with a lift. But if your not offroading most of the time, why deal with a lift? I don't mean any offense to anybody I'm just curious.

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Old 06-02-2014, 10:33 PM   #2
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My TJ is stock.

I've thought about doing a lift, but that's on the back burner for a while (if ever). I don't hit the rocks. My off road time is spent on the beach.

I'm not knocking those of you that lift, whether it be for the looks or because it's functional for your outdoor activities. Either way, the choice is yours.

Just like the choice is mine NOT to lift.

That's one of the things that is so great about owning a Jeep. Around here, they are all over the place.

And if you happen to see 20 jeeps, you will see 20 jeeps that look similar, but still different.

As far as mods go, I don't think you'd list these as mods, but I purchased a set of half doors, & will be buying the spider web shade sometime soon. I also installed my CB.

Other than that, everything is stock.

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Old 06-02-2014, 10:35 PM   #3
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I am actually in this sort of dilemma right now!

I have an 05 Rubi and it is all stock right now, I am very tempted to get the ultimate kit from DPG and some 33's for it. As a matter of fact I am trying to decide on rims at the moment. My issue is, I really like stock jeeps and mine is definitely a DD and I will say the only off-roading I may do is to park in someone yard for a party!!! I just can't justify spending $3000 on a lift, rims and tires when I like how it sits as is.... but I will replace the tires (PO put on more of a street tire and I don't like that look)
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Old 06-02-2014, 10:38 PM   #4
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I like my stock TJ. I have 28's on it and use it as my dd. I get like 20-23 on the highway and 15-18 around town. Now that's still pretty terrible considering its 2014 and every car should be getting 50 mpg, but comparatively it's not bad.

If you're going to be doing heavy off road though the lift makes total sense. However, as most people aren't going to be doing that, it does seem like a waste of money to me. But hey, if it floats your boat why not?
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Old 06-02-2014, 10:41 PM   #5
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Eh … More of a lifted and big tires type of guy. Stock TJ's look silly.
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Old 06-02-2014, 10:45 PM   #6
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... I have 28's on it and use it as my dd. I get like 20-23 on the highway and 15-18 around town. Now that's still pretty terrible considering its 2014 and every car should be getting 50 mpg, but comparatively it's not bad...
My jeep is my DD, too.
I'm running 31s, and if I drive like I'm supposed to, I can easily see 18-19 mpg.

On a side note, if I WERE to install a lift kit, I'd have to drop my CB antenna, entering & exiting my garage. As it is right now, I only have a few inches to spare.

(I like running my CB. I'd hate to have to take it down everyday, every time I go in or out of the garage.)
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Old 06-02-2014, 10:49 PM   #7
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Mine is stock. It has 30x9.50's on it. I might go to 31's but I don't have any desire to lift it. I do off-road quiet a bit but mostly trail riding. It's my DD and I like it just the way it is.
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Old 06-02-2014, 10:58 PM   #8
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I loved mine stock it rocked. I kept it on the low end. 3" but flex uppers and lowers and 32". Frankly stock it was damn near as awesome. For my exploring I go anywhere I find. I don't drive to rocks to crawl. I think best upgrade for a stock jeep is mtrs or something that can bite and shed mud. I love mtrs. Saved my as stranded on the stampede trail. Were covered smooth with mud stuck on axles. Mud smooth all over tires. Got in stomped it and it flung it lifted out and hovered in muskeg in Alaska while I did a donut and got back on trail. Scary at the time stock tj 31" goodyear mtrs. I was far from civilization. Cell phone range anything. I have bought those tires again lol they lasted 80 k too. Bottom line stock jeeps are awesome. Add a winch your golden.
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... Add a winch your golden.
I like the idea of a winch, because, if you do get stuck, if you are able to find something to latch onto, you can just pull yourself out of the trouble you're in.
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Old 06-02-2014, 11:28 PM   #10
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I like the idea of a winch, because, if you do get stuck, if you are able to find something to latch onto, you can just pull yourself out of the trouble you're in.
I was stuck a lot before I got a winch. Since it has pulled out 4 girls in icy conditions and tore out 5 trees roots and all. They can pull you and WAY more. Definitely my favorite mod. Gets hugs from strangers even lol. fortunately Haze hasn't gotten stuck since but you WILL use it. It's a tool. Way more than a hood ornament.
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Old 06-02-2014, 11:46 PM   #11
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Pretty much agree with Majn. I've got a 2" BB ready to go on, but I want to do it and get 31s at the same time. I'm not as much of a fan of huge Jeeps. A nice rigged TJ that isn't much higher than stock is my favorite... Oh, and it's also better if it's red... Hehe. Winches are a GREAT buy...
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i'm a fan of the stock height... had a raised cj7 years back... scared me to death.

my 97 is on 30x9.50x15 (no lift)... just about the right look for me. my wheels don't tuck under the fenders, but added wider fender flares. Here in my part of IL, the State Police have been pulling 4x4s that don't have coverage. so I figured I'd avoid issues.
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Old 06-03-2014, 12:28 AM   #13
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While I am increasingly further from stock as time goes on, I do make a point of keeping my changes and additions as aesthetically simple and understated as I can. In the end, I would like people to think my Jeep is more stock than it really is.

I will say that I find my 3.25" of total lift and 33's to be much more fun to drive even as a daily driver than I did when it was at stock height. I have no immediate plans to go taller - only to raise things up underneath.
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Old 06-03-2014, 12:56 AM   #14
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If it crawls like a Jeep, drives like a Jeep, sounds like a Jeep its a Jeep! Any chopping, welding,hacking,adding,fabricating,modifying of a vehicle changes its status from "stock" to "non-stock"...however minor they may be. You can still respond to a race challenge by saying "sure buddy you pick the first 5 miles and I'll pick the last 5." A stock Jeep still has the capabilities (w/decent tires) too go where not many can.
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Old 06-03-2014, 03:18 AM   #15
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Keeping your TJ stock and factory correct has the advantages of a better ride and handling, better fuel economy, and better re-sale value not to mention all the $$$ you save by not buying all that aftermarket equipment.

A factory stock, un-lifted TJ with the optional 30" Tire and Wheel Group is an excellent off-road vehicle and great in the snow too.

These are the reasons I am keeping my TJ completely stock.

.........that being said, there's so many modified/lifted Wranglers that are fantastic and really set the stage for what a true off-road and on-road Jeep is all about.
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Old 06-03-2014, 04:25 AM   #16
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I like jeeps in general, I don't care what kind of jewelry it has, no different than a boat or a woman.if that makes any sense.
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Old 06-03-2014, 05:22 AM   #17
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I currently prefer the stock TJ's, but then again I don't own one, yet. I suppose it will feel newer to me and allow me to choose where it goes, in terms of modifications.
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Old 06-03-2014, 05:58 AM   #18
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The only thing about a stock TJ is the tyres. The proportions of the thing are a bit wrong to me, and it just looks better with 31's.
I'm probably going to get lynched but I'm personally not a fan of the flat fenders either.
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Old 06-03-2014, 07:10 AM   #19
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That's what's great about owning a Jeep. One of the few vehicles with so many options of add-ons if you want to go that route. IMO,I properly lifted Jeep with quality parts will ride the equal or better than stock. The MPG drops with additional added weight of armor/bigger tires but lifted Jeeps always catches my eye. I haul around my wife, 6yo and 2yo so the added armor offers added protection and have save the Jeep a few times from minor fender benders. I will give up MPG for the added protection.
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Old 06-03-2014, 07:40 AM   #20
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I think a bit more clearance then stock, via a 2-3" lift and some 32-33" tires is an improvement and looks much better then stock. I just laugh at some of these kids running around with 6" lifts and tires that stick out 6" past the flares! Makes the Jeep look like a giant roller skate! To each their own but...whatever they have a "right" to do to their Jeep I also have a "right" to laugh at....I laugh at light bars too....
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Old 06-03-2014, 08:25 AM   #21
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I'm just putting 31X10.50 15 on my 2004 unlimited and leaving it pretty much stock but I'm 90% road 10% trail roads--no rock creeping
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Old 06-03-2014, 09:37 AM   #22
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I run 265/75/16 treadwrights on my stock TJ that has Bilstein HD shocks on it. So much fun.



I really want to get OME's kit for it but thinking about H&R 1" springs with bilstein 5100's so it's still kinda stock-ish. Gotta decide.
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Stock TJs look like postal Jeeps. At a minimum, a TJ needs 30x9.50s to not look "under-tired", 31x10.50s to look "right". Muddeprived's TJ looks good (those are almost 32s).

A 2" budget boost and 32s makes a TJ stand out and does not affect daily drivability.

I set my limit at 3" lift and 33s. With an LJ, my Jeep still drives like stock (almost... there is a little more lean in turns, but barely), though it is a little slower and gas mileage suffers.
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Stock TJs look like postal Jeeps. At a minimum, a TJ needs 30x9.50s to not look "under-tired", 31x10.50s to look "right". Muddeprived's TJ looks good (those are almost 32s).

A 2" budget boost and 32s makes a TJ stand out and does not affect daily drivability.

I set my limit at 3" lift and 33s. With an LJ, my Jeep still drives like stock (almost... there is a little more lean in turns, but barely), though it is a little slower and gas mileage suffers.
They are actually 32" tall unmounted:



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Old 06-03-2014, 11:39 AM   #25
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I've seen some "stock" TJs that really have me considering my next steps. I'm running a 2" BB with 33" tires that make it almost stock but really need to upgrade springs, shocks & tires. I like this look.
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Old 06-03-2014, 01:03 PM   #26
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I was always happy with my stock 97 Sahara with 30x9.5x10.5's until I parked next to a bunch of JK's!! That's me, the small black one in the group

It made me think about a lift, but I love the current ride and the only off-roading I do is the beach which I have no problem doing stock. So after much researching in lifting a Jeep properly, I decided to keep it stock. It's just not worth the expense and potential troubleshooting afterwards for the type of driving I do.

I have to admit that I do like the way lifted Jeeps look, but there's also something gratifying about a stock Jeep driving in some of the same conditions as the bigger ones without the expense and problems.


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I've seen some "stock" TJs that really have me considering my next steps. I'm running a 2" BB with 33" tires that make it almost stock but really need to upgrade springs, shocks & tires. I like this look.
Very nice and still a good driver. I think my LJ on 32s and 2" lift looked good:
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100% stock doesn't really do it for me but would love to have one just with 31" mudterrains and a lunchbox locker in the front.
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I think a bit more clearance then stock, via a 2-3" lift and some 32-33" tires is an improvement and looks much better then stock. I just laugh at some of these kids running around with 6" lifts and tires that stick out 6" past the flares! Makes the Jeep look like a giant roller skate! To each their own but...whatever they have a "right" to do to their Jeep I also have a "right" to laugh at....I laugh at light bars too....
Yea once the tires start getting to like 33s it does look like a rollerskate. I do think light bars look awesome though. They get alot of use and are especially useful when snowplowing.
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Very nice and still a good driver. I think my LJ on 32s and 2" lift looked good:
What type of side steps do/did you have on that LJ?

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