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Old 05-20-2010, 07:18 PM   #1
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ARB Bumper and winch

I will be getting an ARB bumper for my 2006 Wrangler X. I will also be getting a winch. I am looking for a low profile steel cable winch (preferably something that will fit inside the bumper). I want it to be 8000 pounds.

I don't like the look of a winch covering the front grill. The winch will be used about twice a year, so it doesn't need to be anything extravagant.

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Warn M8000.
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What about the Mile Marker hydraulic winch? It appears to have a narrower profile that just may fit inside the ARB bumber. Has anyone seen that setup?
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I have both for sale. Where are you located? I am asking 950 for both the winch is 9k pounds.
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950 includes shipping.
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What about the Mile Marker hydraulic winch? It appears to have a narrower profile that just may fit inside the ARB bumber. Has anyone seen that setup?
Most don't mess a/ hydraulic...unless you plan on using it an awful lot, and for long periods of time...it just makes things complicated going hydraulic....most everyone will be fine w/ an Electric winch.

Warn is the name to buy. some others are fine also.
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Old 05-21-2010, 02:25 PM   #7
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I would not run a hydraulic winch even if one were given to me. Oh wait, one was... I won a brand-new Milemarker 2-speed hydraulic winch at a 4x4 event years ago but I sold it and continued using my Warn electric winch.

Martin, why are you specifying that it should have a steel cable? Do you have something against synthetic rope?
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Man I wish I could find a Warn M8000 for that 539 price w/ a Syn. rope...

I'd be much more inclined to buy it. Now terribly sure what I'd do with it, but it'd look neat on the front of my Jeep.
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2001 TJ-- I live in Seattle. My jeep is a 2006 with 22K on it. It looks brand new. Is your ARB bumper nice and shiny? Can you send me a picture? I may be interested!! It sounds like exactly like what I am looking for!

I personally would rather have a hydraulic. My last rig had an electric; it was fine. I am only an occasional wincher, but I've seen hydraulic winches in action and they are great. I am not opposed to electric if the profile will fit inside the ARB bumper without covering the grill.

As far as why do I like steel cables? I like the durability/heat/abrasion/cleanliness factors. Weight is not an issue.
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Martin, you'd find a synthetic is every bit as durable if not more so. I went through three wire ropes on my winch from kinks or the wire digging down on successive pulls & breaking strands. You can't always rewind a wire rope before needing it again on the trail.

Since replacing my last damaged wire rope with 3/8" synthetic rope 5 years ago, I have yet to need to replace the synthetic. Wire rope has no benefit for most wheelers and you will seldom see a wire rope on a winch that gets used a lot on a serious trail rig any more.

On hydraulic winches, just wait until you need it when you can't start your engine. And if you say that would be rare, it's not as rare as you think. In fact, I have had to winch myself three times when I couldn't start the engine and it's a good thing I had an electric winch. Once when my power steering pump blew a seal & starting the engine would have blown the rest of the PS fluid out of the system & all over the trail. The other two times, the engine simply wouldn't start. Bad ignition coil and bad CPS the other two times. No, I did not need a jump start afterwards. You can safely winch yourself 5-10 minutes on just a single good quality battery alone & still be able to start the engine once you get the issue resolved. Not to mention that heat is a non-factor on synthetic ropes anyway for 99.999% of us. The ONLY time a winch hub develops any heat at all, which is what a few worry about after seeing warnings about synthetic line, is if you are using the winch as a brake for a backwards descent. For all normal winching, the brake inside the winch hub develops no heat.

Not to mention that a hydraulic winch is so slow that when used as an assist on a tough trail section, it will snarl the winch cable during those brief sections you can drive faster than the winch can retrieve. In those situations, a hydraulic winch can almost be worse than no winch at all.

After having won a brand-new Milemarker 2-speed hydraulic winch at a 4x4 event, I sold it to keep my trusty old Warn winch.

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