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Old 09-12-2012, 09:35 PM   #1
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If on the trail if I have my rear ARB locked & Im about to make a corner do I need to unlock it? Also Ill be using my interior mounted VLAIR so can I run all my air lines in the interior so they wont get ripped out? Thanks

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Depends how sharp a turn you need to make.
You can run the airlines anywhere you want. Just leave slack for articulation!

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Old 09-12-2012, 09:50 PM   #3
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If on the trail if I have my rear ARB locked & Im about to make a corner do I need to unlock it?
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can I run all my air lines in the interior so they wont get ripped out?
I suppose you could, but this is completely unnecessary. A competent installer will route the lines such that they won't get snagged on anything.
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I only lock my ARB when I need it, or am approaching an obstacle where I think I may need it.

Most the time it is off/open.
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I only lock my ARB when I need it, or am approaching an obstacle where I think I may need it.

Most the time it is off/open.
Same here. I was told to drive straight for 15-20 feet after unlocking before making a turn if you can to reduce wear as well.
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ARB's air lockers aren't anything that needs to be babied, you can drive offroad all day with them engaged and not worry about wear. They are some of the most rugged and dependable items made for our Jeeps so there's really no need to worry about them.

The only time it helps to unlock a front locker is if you're making an extra-tight turn. If I'm not making many extra-tight turns, my lockers remain engaged pretty much all day except if I'm on a dirt road between obstacles.

Resist the temptation to route the air lines inside, just route them up like where your fuel and brake lines are. Afterall, those don't get snagged when you're offroad. Also stay with the standard air hose ARB provides. Not even ARB recommends their extra strong air hose, read their FAQ for confirmation of that. If by some quirk an air hose was snagged, the heavy duty air line is strong enough to rip out fittings that likely will not be repairable on the trail. The standard duty air hose will snap cleanly instead which is a 30 second fix using ARB's quick splice kit. Not that snapped air lines are an issue when they are routed and secured properly.
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Hey Jerry here is a question for you. Do u have any experience with ox's? I have heard that they are more dependable than arb's, the cable actuated units I mean due to cable vs. air lines. How do you see it sir?
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Hey Jerry here is a question for you. Do u have any experience with ox's? I have heard that they are more dependable than arb's, the cable actuated units I mean due to cable vs. air lines. How do you see it sir?
Mechanically I can tell you ARB's are much stronger. But the engagement system seems relatively similary, both have to have a line ran from the frame to the axle, thus creating a possible snag or breakage, the air has to have pressure while the line does not, but cable actuated can also mean bind. While, air cannot bind.
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Noted. I guess my concern would be if you do get snagged and a pinhole leak occurs will the arbs still actuate. I'm guess not. The ox's cable is inside the tube run from the switch to the unit so even without that tube your cable should still activate the lock. Right? Now when talking about binding what r the concerns here. If I am picturing this correctly the only way a cable will bind is if it is forced into a loop, but then even with an air hose a loop or knot so to speak means failure, right ?
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Hey Jerry here is a question for you. Do u have any experience with ox's? I have heard that they are more dependable than arb's, the cable actuated units I mean due to cable vs. air lines. How do you see it sir?
I met the OX's developer many years ago and thought it was a cool locker back then. What turned me off to them is their ultra-stiff cable system that is not easy to install and it's not easy to get adjusted. Some have trouble keeping them adjusted though improvements over the years have helped with that last issue.

Personally, I'd go ARB. I made a count of the # of ARB lockers vs. Ox lockers in the last King of the Hammers since they list the setups used and there was something like 3 Ox lockers to 120+ ARB air lockers used by the competitors. By sheer numbers, ARB was first, Detroit Locker was second, and Ox was in last place in the total number of lockers used.
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Noted. I guess my concern would be if you do get snagged and a pinhole leak occurs will the arbs still actuate. I'm guess not. The ox's cable is inside the tube run from the switch to the unit so even without that tube your cable should still activate the lock. Right? Now when talking about binding what r the concerns here. If I am picturing this correctly the only way a cable will bind is if it is forced into a loop, but then even with an air hose a loop or knot so to speak means failure, right ?
Well any kind of debris, or adjustment that could change would alter that. Really the only leak youll have with an arb can be fixed with basic tools or the ARB splice kit.

You cant patch cable (not that itll be easy to break) but even with a leak the only thing that will happen is that your air source will run more often to continue to hold the systems psi.
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Thanks Jerry arb it is
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Thank you as well Indy
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I only lock my ARB when I need it, or am approaching an obstacle where I think I may need it.

Most the time it is off/open.
That's what I do with both of mine as well. It just drives better that way.
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Thanks for all the input.I was going to go Eaton but Id rather spend a little extra & get the best.
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Id rather spend a little extra & get the best.
This is how I felt. Selectable lockers are where it's at; I once owned a full-time locker and encountered a number of situations where I wished I could disable it. When I was deciding which selectable locker to purchase, the only downside to the ARB is its cost--their track record speaks for itself. Every other selectable locker seems to have drawbacks compared to the ARB, and their followers all seem to promote them by saying, "but they're cheaper than an ARB."

I am now running dual ARBs... and I couldn't be happier.
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Old 09-23-2012, 06:54 PM   #18
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Thanks for the information. I was going to post a new thread about OX vs. ARB after reading this it sounds like ARBs are the best. My thought is you'll burn through a few hundred extra dollars in frustration in about 15 minutes when you're broken on the trail. Especially if it is Friday and you planned on climbing the whole weekend.

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