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Old 06-08-2011, 02:16 PM   #1
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auto or manual?

so whats better a manual or auto transmission? either a 4 or 6 cylinder what are the pros and cons? and how are they off road(stock or not stock) and hwy/city driving?

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Old 06-08-2011, 02:24 PM   #2
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That's really up to you.
Many like the auto for rock crawling. It's easier to work a brake and gas, then brake, gas, and clutch.

A stick will get better fuel mileage normally.

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Auto or Manual is strictly a preference.. Each one does some things better then the other. The I6 is considered a bullet proof engine and has earned that reputation.. The I4 is still a great engine and will last forever as well.. Just your running about 65hp less then the I6 so typically it will strugle alot more on inclines and while some don't mind it on the highway.. It doesn't have the same pick up and go as the I6. with city driving there is no signifigant difference..

Offroad they are pretty much the same.. Like I said steep inclines is where the I6 over takes the I4.. But for general trail riding and rock crawling (for the most part) both will give you the same capability.
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Old 06-08-2011, 02:33 PM   #4
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well right now I have a manual I6. and what im mostly wondering is how does the auto 4 cylinder compare to the manual 4 cylinder. with highway speeds, power, (31in tires) ive had 3 manual wranglers (2 yjs, 1 tj) and dont know if a auto will be what im looking for, so anyone who has had them both and knows this stuff or knows someone who has both or expereince
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Auto or Manual is strictly a preference.. Each one does some things better then the other. The I6 is considered a bullet proof engine and has earned that reputation.. The I4 is still a great engine and will last forever as well.. Just your running about 65hp less then the I6 so typically it will strugle alot more on inclines and while some don't mind it on the highway.. It doesn't have the same pick up and go as the I6. with city driving there is no signifigant difference..

Offroad they are pretty much the same.. Like I said steep inclines is where the I6 over takes the I4.. But for general trail riding and rock crawling (for the most part) both will give you the same capability.
I agree with everything Knight said...

As a personal opinion, i prefer a manual because i do more city than anything because this is also my daily driver and i prefer to drive a manual. Plus, with a manual 4 cyl, it came stock with 4.10 gears which is nice (the auto does not, it has 3.73's).

If you're getting a 4 i would only get a manual (which i currently have).

But again...i agree with everything knight said lol...word for word...
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I agree with everything Knight said...

As a personal opinion, i prefer a manual because i do more city than anything because this is also my daily driver and i prefer to drive a manual. Plus, with a manual 4 cyl, it came stock with 4.10 gears which is nice (the auto does not, it has 3.73's).

If you're getting a 4 i would only get a manual (which i currently have).

But again...i agree with everything knight said lol...word for word...
i heard that with autos you dont have to regear with larger tires?
also what mods do you have, and how is that on the hwy, top speed, any problems, etc..?
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I have an I4 manual, I don't mind it at all, seems to do everything I ask it to, but I don't think I would care for it if it was an auto, my last Jeep was an I6 auto, It also did everything I asked it to do, but the auto was a lot nicer on the declines in the woods.
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Old 06-08-2011, 02:47 PM   #8
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It's all preference. Both are very competitive to each other. Owen has a manuel i4 and I have a auto I6 when we went wheeling we both could make it over the same terrain. The only advantage I had was that I didn't have to worry about burning the clutch (sorry Owen yours will prolly never be the same after I was done with it) so I coulda kept going where he had to turn around. But otherwise both hold up great on trails. And both hold up great as a dd
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Whoever said that must have just stepped off the short bus...cause thats retarded lol

I've got a manual 2.5L 99 TJ with a 3" suspension lift, 32x11.5x15 Falken Rocky Mountains and 15x8 Mickey Thompson Limited Signature Series rims.

I've still got the spare but for some weight savings and extra room i removed the rear seat like a week after getting the jeep...havent regretted it at all.

As for mods...i'm running a drop in KN filter, magnaflow high flow cat, magnaflow muffler, and thats all. I know the debate about the drop in filter but i have wheeled with it and driven it daily since putting it in there and i recently took the air tube apart to see if i had any build up and it was as clean as it was before so i havent seen any negatives from this. It didnt give me more "power" but does run smoother...for instance, i dont have to downshift on certain hills i once did.

I added the cat recently because mine was getting hot above the passenger side so i replaced it and again, it wasnt the "power" i gained but just a smooth ride and runs better throughout the gears. The muffler was just because lol.

I dont have any problems on the highway since replacing the cat and can run consistent 65-70. The only times i run into a problem are on steep hills but i live in Denver, CO so there are far more steep hills here than in Minnesota (i used to live in Iowa). Top speed...no clue because i've never actually tried lol. I'll run out of rpm before i hit resistance to stop it.

The only thing i can say which is a small complaint to some (not myself, i dont really care) is that it takes a little longer to get up to speed on an entrance ramp...thats all though.

In regards to gas mileage...i get great mileage for a wrangler but only because i think it has plenty of power and i'm not a fast driver like some, so i only shift around 2-2500. My last tank i got 21 mpg (normal average is 20) and like i said, i'm running a 3" lift with 32's

The next mod on my list is going to be an electric flex-a-lite fan to get rid of the mechanical fan...this is the only mod i think which will actually increase the power and be noticeable. That'll be a little down the road though.
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Old 06-08-2011, 02:56 PM   #10
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stick all the way..... unless you play for the other team.....

espcectially with the 4 banger.... WOOT WOOT for stock 410's
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The only advantage I had was that I didn't have to worry about burning the clutch (sorry Owen yours will prolly never be the same after I was done with it)
Its the exact same lol...you stop in the most awkward places though lol...

But yeah, if you're goign to be doing a lot of wheeling...i'd look for an auto 6cyl but if its an occasional one like myself, then the manual 4 would do awesome for both DD and the occasional wheeling
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Its the exact same lol...you stop in the most awkward places though lol...
Well that's good. And hey those places make for good pics haha. Did alex ever send you them. If not pm me your email and I'll get on him about it
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I have both..like them both for different reasons. Manual is more fun to zip around the streets, Auto wins for offroading.
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Old 06-26-2011, 08:44 PM   #14
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4= manual; 6= Manual or Auto.
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Old 06-26-2011, 09:14 PM   #15
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If its a Rubi I would go Auto. Not a Rubi, Manual.
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Old 06-26-2011, 09:20 PM   #16
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There is really only one solution. Buy a 4.0L, then decide.

The 2.5L feels like even more of a turd with an auto, but the manual transmissions are turds themselves. Basically a lose/lose situation.
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Old 06-27-2011, 05:38 AM   #17
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Personally,
It's not even a Jeep if it has an auto. Same with a REAL truck!

Why would anyone want a puny 4 banger in a Jeep also? From what I've seen and heard, not that much of difference gas milage wise anyway.

My 4.0L can get 20mpg as long as I stay 60MPH or lower. Didn't buy the thing for gas mileage or speed anyway.

I could see where an auto might be beneficial on the trails/rocks, but you'd have to live there, for it to warrant an auto, IMO.

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