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Old 01-10-2017, 01:55 PM
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Auto vs Manual debate/opinions

I've been having an internal debate as to what type of trans to go with when the 4cyl gives up and I do an LS swap.
4spd auto 4l60e or 80? Pros Cons? Why one over the other?
5 spd NV3500?
Which is easier on driveline parts? Daily driving and offroading pros/cons?
I would like to get some other opinions other than mine. I have only owned Jeeps with manual transmissions.
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HP Dana 30/9" axles 4.56 or 4.88 gears ARB up front, upgraded tracloc in the rear, 231 w/SYE
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Auto hands down. Especially when it comes to 4x'ing.

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I picked an auto, because 95% of my driving is done in rush hour traffic Monday-Friday. I also enjoy it off-road because its one less thing to focus on.
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I really like my manual because I feel like it is much more engaging to drive. I also feel like it slows me down more with engine compression going downhill than an automatic does. If you do a lot of wheeling where you have to maneuver and crawl over obstacles an automatic would be more ideal so you don't have to worry about burning up your clutch. You'll have to make sure to watch the trans temps in those situations though with an auto. Also, autos that are geared the same as manuals can crawl slower because of the torque converter slip, making very slow crawling possible.
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Auto hands down. Especially when it comes to 4x'ing.
Agreed. My current TJ is standard, and it is the first Jeep I've owned that is not auto. I definitely prefer auto for wheeling. Torque converter takes some 'shock' out of the drive train when wheeling. As for 4L60E I've read a lot of topics where guys with the 60s are upgrading to the 80s for more strength and reliability. Whether there's fact behind that I'm not sure. Just going off others comments on the matter there though; I know nothing about them.
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The only problem with going 80e over the 60e is size. The 5.3/4l60e/231 will be significantly shorter than the 5.3/4l80e/231 combo. I'm familiar with the pros and cons of those transmissions and I will always lean more towards the 80, I will just have to figure out how I can make it fit and not have driveline issues.
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manual hands down i have seen a bunch of posts stating all kinds of auto failures.
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manual hands down i have seen a bunch of posts stating all kinds of auto failures.
I do believe that manuals are a little more resilient and simple which can be good at times
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Squeeze that 1 extra mile out per gallon with a stick.

I'm biased anyway, I hate driving autos.
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Auto is better for crawling very slowly over rocks, or sitting in bumper-to-bumper traffic. For virtually all other driving, I prefer manual. Also manual looks cooler, it's science.
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Auto is better for crawling very slowly over rocks, or sitting in bumper-to-bumper traffic. For virtually all other driving, I prefer manual. Also manual looks cooler, it's science.

So true!

Obviously auto's are better for rock crawling but with that said...i still prefer a manual even while offroad, but the important part here is having proper gearing and transfer case ratio. Then, if your good at, you will have the same performance with nearly as little effort as an auto. I feel more zen between me and the Jeep with a manual .
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Manual. On road, off road. IMO. Whoever said proper gearing offroad, it is key. I can understand how autos are EASIER to rock crawl with. Heel toe break/gas, perfect clutch slippage to engagement. It's an art. The challenge makes it more fun to me.

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