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Old 04-30-2009, 07:38 AM   #1
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Automatic 4.0 vs Stick preference and why?

Just wanting some opinions thanks all!
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Old 04-30-2009, 07:42 AM   #2
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i like auto better. and auto is better when doing rock crawling.

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I like stick just because it feels better/offers more control... (although currently my jeep is an auto...)
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why does this have to be talked about every week..... there are hundreds of threads on this. its 99% personal preference.
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Most of the wranglers and CJ's I have owned have been sticks. Enjoyed them. As I have gotten older however the wonderful world of the auto is welcomed. No more trying to adjust the clutch gas combo on a sleep rocky hill climb. Sure the crawl ratio might not be as low, but I can ride the brake all day long going down a hill and not stall out. Also I can toss the keys to anybody and they can drive the jeep with out me wondering if I will need a new clutch when their done.
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Old 04-30-2009, 10:09 AM   #6
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Also I can toss the keys to anybody and they can drive the jeep with out me wondering if I will need a new clutch when their done.
that part is definitely nice about an auto.
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that part is definitely nice about an auto.
EXCEPT.....when your wife borrows it all the time....Knew I should have bought one with a stick.
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EXCEPT.....when your wife borrows it all the time....Knew I should have bought one with a stick.
that is not fail safe, she will just learn how to drive a stick . i did.
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:13 PM   #9
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I've always had a stick. The very few times I've had any vehicle with an auto I'm grumpy until I get rid of it and get a manual trans. I'm not entirely sure why, might be because I'm a control freak.

The only true upside is I can drink my coffee and drive at the same time in the morning. My co-workers prefer I get as much in me as possible before I walk in the door, but that appears to be their problem, not mine

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I have owned both sticks and autos and have wheeled both I'd rather have an auto any day of week when climbing things. I love stick shifts and always will but when it comes to wheeling the auto is the way to go, but that is just my opinion.
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The harder the trail, the more an automatic shines and the more control it gives you. Really. That's why I converted from a 5-speed to an automatic last year for rock crawling. And that's with 40+ years of driving sticks.
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^ hand throttle ftw.
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^ hand throttle ftw.
That's the only thing that saved me when I started doing 5 and 5+ rated rock crawling trails when I had the 5-speed. After I converted to the automatic, I didn't reinstall it because I didn't think I'd need it but I missed it so much that I reinstalled it. Even with the automatic, it smooths out the throttle application on bumpy trails to reduce drivetrain shock loading. A hand throttle is also handy to hold the rpms up while winching or using a belt-driven OBA system.
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Having no control, needing to change oil every year (putting down $6 a qt for oil), worrying about cooling lines, a useless gear shifter on the floor when it should be out of the way in the column. Give me a manual transmission any day
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why ask why try bud dry LOL!

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why does this have to be talked about every week..... there are hundreds of threads on this. its 99% personal preference.
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Most of the wranglers and CJ's I have owned have been sticks. Enjoyed them. As I have gotten older however the wonderful world of the auto is welcomed. No more trying to adjust the clutch gas combo on a sleep rocky hill climb. Sure the crawl ratio might not be as low, but I can ride the brake all day long going down a hill and not stall out. Also I can toss the keys to anybody and they can drive the jeep with out me wondering if I will need a new clutch when their done.
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EXCEPT.....when your wife borrows it all the time....Knew I should have bought one with a stick.
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Having no control, needing to change oil every year (putting down $6 a qt for oil), worrying about cooling lines, a useless gear shifter on the floor when it should be out of the way in the column. Give me a manual transmission any day
Come out and do some 5 and 5+ rated trails with us and you may just change your tune. Even the pro competitors long-ago switched to automatics since they're in the events to win, not stroke their shifters.
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Well with all do respect. Not everyone goes rock-crawling.... I have a stick and I love it. I don't plan on going rock crawling any day now. I think rock crawling is a time to break something. haha.
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Come out and do some 5 and 5+ rated trails with us and you may just change your tune. Even the pro competitors long-ago switched to automatics since they're in the events to win, not stroke their shifters.
thats the main reason I bought mine with the auto you cant wheel the rocks with as much finess as you can with the auto

Allthough I have been thinking of changing my trans for an overdrive trans
I just dont know yet what trans to use
the aw4 out of a cherokee or the 700r4 with the low 1st gear
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thats the main reason I bought mine with the auto you cant wheel the rocks with as much finess as you can with the auto

Allthough I have been thinking of changing my trans for an overdrive trans
I just dont know yet what trans to use
the aw4 out of a cherokee or the 700r4 with the low 1st gear
Between those two, definitely go for the AW4 which is a popular swap. The 700r4 takes more power to run and is a more difficult installation. The 1st gear ratio is not all that important with an automatic anyway. The torque converter gives you what is in effect an infinitely low 1st gear ratio so you can go as slow as you want.
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I have always preferred sticks over automatics.
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Old 05-02-2009, 03:57 PM   #23
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I own both - 4 wheelers with autos and sticks.

The automatics make my left foot feel guilty and unloved.
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The automatics make my left foot feel guilty and unloved.
Whenever my left foot starts feeling that way, I give it trail braking duties. Yes, I welded my old unloved no longer needed clutch pedal to the brake pedal.
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^i like that

i stayed out of this cuz the last time this came up i was the only guy for the stick.

i agree, all the pros and serious people went to autos. i've wheeled both, and i love the stick still. my yj i'm building now has a stick in it, all cast iron, 6.55:1 first gear, and i could go on, and i'm gonna wheel it on the hardest trails i find. i just love the control i have with it.

definatly not for everyone, but with a lot of skill, i love to use the manual trans.

plus i like the durability, they are strong. get some water in them, just drain it out. cheap to repair and rebuild, autos not the same story.

i'm die hard manual trans, with my own admission it may be stupid. but i love it.
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Between those two, definitely go for the AW4 which is a popular swap. The 700r4 takes more power to run and is a more difficult installation. The 1st gear ratio is not all that important with an automatic anyway. The torque converter gives you what is in effect an infinitely low 1st gear ratio so you can go as slow as you want.
I heard or read somewhere that the aw4 doesnt like to comunicate with the computer so I would have to change out my computer to one from a standard wrangler

But I like the aw4 it will bolt right up and has proven its self with years of use in the cherrokee
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It communicates fine with the computer, you just have to do a little wiring and there's plenty of info on that on the net. I'd want a computer set up for an automatic so it can trigger the AW4's torque converter lockup circuit.
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On a more urban side of things, trying ot get past someone in an emergency situation or get out of someones way: give me a stick! Automatics just dont have the same spritely quality to them as a stick does.
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On a more urban side of things, trying ot get past someone in an emergency situation or get out of someones way: give me a stick! Automatics just dont have the same spritely quality to them as a stick does.
Uh huh.
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