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Old 08-13-2014, 12:03 AM   #1
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Back glass on TJ hard top won't close

Recently bought a used TJ hard top and installed it on the TJ. Only issue is that the rear glass will not close all the way because it is hitting the 'clips'(for lack of correct term) on the tub that the rear flap of the soft top snaps in to. Now I know that I can simply remove these, but is there a 'clip' that can be used for both soft and hard tops so that I don't have to add/remove them when changing tops? I've been looking online but because I don't know the correct name for them, I'm not sure if I'm looking at the right parts.

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Old 08-13-2014, 12:22 AM   #2
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Is the glass hitting or just the seal? Pics?

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Old 08-13-2014, 12:23 AM   #3
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Try loosening the top and sliding it back a bit
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Old 08-13-2014, 12:31 AM   #4
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If it's a factory top, you can leave them. Some aftermarket tops, you have to remove them.
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I have a factory soft and hard top and the softop rear window retainer clips are do not interfere with the glass. The hard top glass seal gets held when you close the tailgate.
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Old 08-13-2014, 05:54 AM   #6
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You will have to remove the tailgate bar holders
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Old 08-13-2014, 08:02 AM   #7
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When I went hard top only I found that the clips that were adjacent to the rear door opening (the top edge) were not letting the rear glass close so I removed them. In your case I would have a small sealable container for the odds and ends that are soft top related stashed with the soft top.
Now the four holes left are another story.
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Old 08-13-2014, 09:46 AM   #8
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Just put the screws back in the holes. Dab them with some touchup body color paint if you want to hide or you can buy small push plugs in the auto parts store and paint those.
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Just put the screws back in the holes. Dab them with some touchup body color paint if you want to hide or you can buy small push plugs in the auto parts store and paint those.
Thanks Neil F..
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Old 08-19-2014, 01:34 PM   #10
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When I went hard top only I found that the clips that were adjacent to the rear door opening (the top edge) were not letting the rear glass close so I removed them. In your case I would have a small sealable container for the odds and ends that are soft top related stashed with the soft top.
Now the four holes left are another story.
Surely l shouldn't have to remove/add them every time I change tops. What a PITA! Guess I'll have to keep jeep specific tools in the dang thing. Looks like a trip to Harbor Freight is needed.
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Old 08-19-2014, 04:29 PM   #11
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Old 08-19-2014, 05:08 PM   #12
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Surely l shouldn't have to remove/add them every time I change tops. What a PITA! Guess I'll have to keep jeep specific tools in the dang thing. Looks like a trip to Harbor Freight is needed.
no jeep specific tool needed takes a screw driver and 5 min or less to remove the two brackets , i keep my tools in garage with hardtop
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Old 08-20-2014, 01:58 AM   #13
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RIFLEMAN something is not quite right in the way your hard top and/or the rear glass is installed, snap a close up pix of the interference you are writing about and I bet someone here can solve the issue.
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Old 08-20-2014, 04:57 PM   #14
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No he is 100% right! I had same problem! The bracket that came with my rampage top will not work with my hard top. There maybe others that will. The one that the tailgate bar sticks out and does not allow the hardtop glass to close all the way. I just take them off and either put the old ones back on or just remove them and out just the screws back!
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Old 08-25-2014, 11:54 AM   #16
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Finally got the pic uploaded.
Yeh you have to remove those when you change tops. It's not like this should be a frequent event though.

I'm not sure whether or not factory or aftermarket has any influence here. On my 97, both tops were factory and they had to be removed, on my 01 with factory 06 top and smittybilt (ugh) soft top they have to be removed. Those parts are identical on both models, as are the hard tops (except for venting), and those little buggers have to be removed.
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Finally got the pic uploaded.
No idea whay I am looking at but whatever that is, it is not factory.
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Old 08-25-2014, 02:29 PM   #18
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??? Interesting. I guess the saying "every Jeep is different" is true.

Although previous posters say they have to remove theirs, I have always left them on my 04 TJ with my factory hard and soft tops. Many many years without an issue.

The bottom piece on my hardtop glass fits right in the tailgate bar brackets. Could be non-factory brackets? Maybe your glass needs adjusting, or you have too little/too much weather stripping in between the tub and the hardtop. Maybe your bracket just needs a little tweaking so the bottom piece on the glass will fit in it?

Just throwing out some suggestions.

Factory bracket


Hardtop on, bracket on.
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For my aftermarket Supertop NX, I have to remove those rear brackets when I change from soft to hard top.
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Thanks for all the input!! Hard top is a factory top but soft top is a Bestop. Not sure what model though. Looks like I'll just have to remove them. I know the spare keeps the glass from being opened but what keeps the glass from bouncing while driving? If I remove the spare, how do I lock the glass?
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Thanks for all the input!! Hard top is a factory top but soft top is a Bestop. Not sure what model though. Looks like I'll just have to remove them. I know the spare keeps the glass from being opened but what keeps the glass from bouncing while driving? If I remove the spare, how do I lock the glass?
The tailgate keeps it from opening! Those brackets are not necessary for the back glass
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There is (supposed to be) a rubber lip attached to the bottom of the glass. You close the glass then the tailgate. The rubbler lip tucks behind the closed tailgate and keeps the glass closed.
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there is (supposed to be) a rubber lip attached to the bottom of the glass. You close the glass then the tailgate. The rubbler lip tucks behind the closed tailgate and keeps the glass closed.
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Old 08-29-2014, 03:15 PM   #24
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Thanks for this thread!

I've had my 2003 TJ since, well, 2003, and always wondered why the back glass never seemed to shut completely.

You see, shortly after I got the Jeep, I had the factory hardtop installed and sold the soft top. So, I never really knew about the two bars in the back for the soft top because I never took the soft top off.

After reading this thread, I was enlightened and immediately removed the four screws and the two bars and now, at last, the glass sits flush with the body.

Hallelujah!
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Thanks for this thread! I've had my 2003 TJ since, well, 2003, and always wondered why the back glass never seemed to shut completely. You see, shortly after I got the Jeep, I had the factory hardtop installed and sold the soft top. So, I never really knew about the two bars in the back for the soft top because I never took the soft top off. After reading this thread, I was enlightened and immediately removed the four screws and the two bars and now, at last, the glass sits flush with the body. Hallelujah!
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