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Old 02-15-2008, 11:45 PM   #1
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OK, after months of trying to decide I figured out how to get 33's under my 04 wrangler. I bought a 1"BL to go with my 2.5" SL and wheel spacers for my stock wheels. Everything arrives no prob.... I'm excited..... but I can't find anyone who will do the work. I'm no mechanic and the only three shops that do that kind of work in my little town turned me down flat b/c they "don't do body lifts anymore." Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Fine, whatever, maybe it's a sign. So let me ask you guys this... and keep in mind, I'm an "enthusiast" not a gear-head... what are the "adjustable coil-over spacers" that Quadratec has advertised? They say you can get 1" to 3.5" of lift!?!?!?! Is that true? How does it lift the jeep.. like a BL or like a SL? I don't understand. Can someone explain it to me please.

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Can't you do the BL yourself? Pretty simple mod.

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Old 02-15-2008, 11:55 PM   #3
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No... I'm pretty much a complete imbecile. My Jeep would probably end up lower. Then I'd have to buy some small rims, neon lights, and 5 or 6 rap cd's.
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No... I'm pretty much a complete imbecile. My Jeep would probably end up lower. Then I'd have to buy some small rims, neon lights, and 5 or 6 rap cd's.
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have you considered going to a shop in another town? you can always call the shops in the near-by towns and ask if they would do it.
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Old 02-16-2008, 12:06 AM   #6
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The thing is, I'm wondering why so many shops are shying away from putting the thing on. You would think I was asking them to install a nuclear warhead or something.
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The thing is, I'm wondering why so many shops are shying away from putting the thing on. You would think I was asking them to install a nuclear warhead or something.
Prolly are not covered anymore for installing BL's because they are not as safe. 1inch BL should be fine tho.

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I shall not correct you !!!

Cause your right the body lift is fine.
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Old 02-16-2008, 12:23 AM   #9
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Maybe he was just trying to sell me one of his 3.5" SL b/c he was saying that even if he did do it I probably needed to get some gap guards, a new bumper/spare tire carrier to handle the 33" tire (b/c it was too heavy for my tailgate and would bend it), etc..
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where do you live? I say go on wrangler forums and ask peeps to help you with the lift.. I would help f you live in CA, bay area
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Lots more than can go wrong with a body lift vs a spring lift, thus insurance wise I will guess that is why the shops are not doing them. All kinds of lines, gas, ac, etc that can get stretched, kinked, so for them they take the safer route. Not sure why you would need gap spacers...sounds like tack on to get more money.

The spacer lift thing you mentioned. lets you adj the amount of lift, by turning the spacer on a threaded pole that go's where your upper bump stop mount is now.
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Ringram did you think about trying a body shop the guys who repair the body of your jeep will be more than glad to do a BL. I'm a auto-tech and all of us are not b@st@rds. It is true about the liability issues. good luck
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I'm no mechanic and I installed my BL and mml in about 2 hours. Wasn't a bad job at all. Also missing most of my tools.
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Old 02-16-2008, 10:41 AM   #14
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Also missing most of my tools.
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Where are you localted ? we have wrench parties a few times a year. We did three TJ's w/SYE's on weekend.
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I'm in deep south Texas. If I'm grilling in the backyard they can smell it in Mexico. Actually, I teach high school English and some of my students said they could install it in their auto shop class. Is it simple enough of an install that I can trust "mechanics in training?" Oh, and for the record autogyver I don't really hate mechanics I'm just upset that I'm not one.
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Well most of us like doing our own work but it's not for everyone and a jeep is always crying for someone to do stuff to it. Might as well start out by doing the body lift in my opinion. It will save you some money/heartache in the long run by doing it your self.

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yup i did it and im 16 all you do is unbolt 7 bolts jack up the body and inch and rebolt seven bolts,
i wauld trust the directions here more, i dont think u need to do some of that stuff nor are you going to get the like sleeves on the bnottom of the mounts
http://www.4x4xplor.com/bl.html
oh and it took me a while to figure out to click on the pictures ont he left to get them bigger!
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OK ... I'll just have the number of the towtruck ready. But I'm still confused about those adjustable coil over spacers. If you really can get up to 3" of lift with those things and they're only $200.00 a pair why aren't more people using them? It would seem to be a much cheaper alternative than some of the lifts that are out there.
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i dont like the gap it leaves with A stock bumper.
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i dont like the gap it leaves with A stock bumper.
Thats why you get a winch.
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yup i did it and im 16 all you do is unbolt 7 bolts jack up the body and inch and rebolt seven bolts,
i wauld trust the directions here more, i dont think u need to do some of that stuff nor are you going to get the like sleeves on the bnottom of the mounts
http://www.4x4xplor.com/bl.html
oh and it took me a while to figure out to click on the pictures ont he left to get them bigger!
I believe there are 11 bolts
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I believe there are 11 bolts
I believe that too.
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The ACOS coil overs are a good thing, I know several that use them, about the only shortcomings they have is up here in the NE, where corrosion from winter road salt can make them cranky if you want to change height.
They are also pretty simple to install. Just jack up the jeep, put it on jack stands, remove the wheels, unbolt the shocks, take the retaining tab that holds the spring in, take your floor jack and put under one side and jack up one side of the axle, the opposite spring about falls out, stick the acos in with no height adjustment made yet. Repeat on other side. Repeat on the other axle. Reattach the shocks. Now you can spin the adjustment collar down to the height you want the lift to be. You could also pick up new shocks, 2-3" longer than the ones you have on it now, you already have the shocks halfway out.
As for the body lift, easy pretty much but two pitfalls, you really should do a motor mount lift, thats fairly straight forward, basically two blocks that go under the motor mounts to raise the motor, when you do the body lift the radiator and fan shroud also up and if left alone the fan will chew the fan shroud up, you also need to reposition the transfer case shift lever and do a bit of modification to the tranny shifter.
When we have a lift party a body lift takes about 10 min from start to finish provided we have adequate impact wrenches to go round. A lift takes a bit longer, minor PIA is removing the air box to get the passenger side shock out.
If you can I would go with the ACOS and new shocks, turn it over to the students, not much they can screw up. I think I would also spring for a new front and rear track bar, might as well do it now, once the bug has bitten you're going to need them.

Oh and if the students do it mark the new adjustable trackbars FRONT and REAR, well marked FRONT and REAR, no, don't ask, just do it.....
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I believe that too.
yes 11. 3 under the drivers door, 3 under the pass door, 2 next to the rear tires, 2 on the rear bumper and 1 on the front by the radiator.

Its easy man, take a look at my sig, i did all of my mods with few tools, the stock jeep jack and another jack from another vehicle (to reise and lower the axles). It's very easy and if you follow the instructions you'll be riding higher in no time. I don't trust most of the shops these days either.

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