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Old 07-11-2011, 04:36 PM   #1
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Question BDS TJ Rubicon Suspension Kit Advice Wanted

Greetings to all! Hope I'm not boring anybody with this info request but I am seeking to FINALLY put a suspension system on my '06 Rubicon (standard wheelbase, 6 speed, half doors/soft-top) that currently has 16K miles on it. My Rubi is generally used for light off-roading and mostly easy pavement cruising. Right now it's totally stock but I am thinking of installing a 2" BDS 4-coil suspension system (base kit 417H which includes 6500-series shocks); I will also be adding some new tires, probably BFG KM2's (32" approx) and whatever else the lift kit requires (front end alignment cam, steering stabilizer, etc). I do ride pavement a lot so I want to keep the on-road manners in place ; I am also looking for a little more in the 'looks' department. I am seeking advice from users of BDS lifts (I know they are pretty good) and the KM2's on this setup. Any/all replies encouraged! Thanks in advance!

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Old 07-23-2011, 05:15 PM   #2
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Unhappy Doesn't anybody like BDS here?

I was hoping for some feedback from current BDS users. Seems like everybody is using something else. I read the 'Lift Reviews' sticky and I was surprised at the number of owners who used combinations of components from different manufacturers. My second choice was OME but I really don't want to go very high (3" max) and really want to maintain highway manners. Also, no 'coil spacers' or body lifts here. ANYBODY with BDS experience please feel free to respond!

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Old 07-23-2011, 06:42 PM   #3
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I'll be installing my lift soon. I go the BDS 2" coil kit a well. I also want to upgrade tot the 32 BFG KM2. We are in the same boat. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Sorry, another future BDS owner. I have settled on the 2 inch like you. Seen nothing but good stuff on it. OME might be a good alternative, but for almost twice the money, they can keep it. I think you're making the right choice. I'm just waiting until fall to buy the lift. Will be much easier to install when the temps cool down.
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Old 07-24-2011, 07:52 AM   #5
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:29 PM   #6
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Or the back done. Hope o install the front this week. Here are a couple if pics. Oh. I also added the OME rear trackbar relocation bracket.
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Old 08-07-2011, 07:32 AM   #7
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appman180, great post! your Jeep looks excellent. I do have a couple of questions, first where did you get the idea for the OME trackbar bracket? Was that strictly bolt-in? Looks like a smart choice, I have read where some peeps have had trouble with the trackbar. Also, are those tires 265/75R16's or another size? Any other notable issues that arose during the install? Thanks for the nice pics, hope to see more soon!
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Old 08-07-2011, 09:00 AM   #8
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appman180, great post! your Jeep looks excellent. I do have a couple of questions, first where did you get the idea for the OME trackbar bracket? Was that strictly bolt-in? Looks like a smart choice, I have read where some peeps have had trouble with the trackbar. Also, are those tires 265/75R16's or another size? Any other notable issues that arose during the install? Thanks for the nice pics, hope to see more soon!
Thanks! I got the idea for the bracket from other forum members who installed this lift.
The bracket was the most time consuming part of the rear end installation. There is some drilling required and it is awkward to do without a lift. You'll need a right angle drill or you can do what we did and just break a drill bit so your drill will fit.
The tires are 30x9.5/15. I plan on buying some 16" rims and some 32x10.5/16
Overall it wasn't to difficult.
The front will be done soon...
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Old 08-08-2011, 07:56 AM   #10
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I run the BDS 3" inch lift and it's great. One of the days I will be installing their 4.5" long arm.

As far as shocks go, I run the BDS 5500's hydros. The hydros work great for the type of wheeling I do (mostly sand dunes, some mud and trail riding). I've never ran a BDS nitro shock, but I have found that other nitro shocks are too stiff and tend to get some wheel hop.
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Old 08-08-2011, 10:20 AM   #11
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I installed the BDS +2" coils and shocks on my 99 TJ this spring. I am VERY happy with it on and off road. It works great with 31" tires too! And no re-gear, skid plate drop, tummy tuck, spend more money, death wobble, spend more money. I'm a satisfied BDS customer!!
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I can vouch for the KM2s. I had them on my YJ and absolutely loved them. They were quite, handled well, and did well on many different types of terrain. They do not do as great on a light dusting of snow, or rain. The tires don't feel dangerous on those conditions, just not as confident.
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I am thinking of installing a 2" BDS 4-coil suspension system (base kit 417H which includes 6500-series shocks); I will also be adding some new tires, probably BFG KM2's (32" approx) and whatever else the lift kit requires (front end alignment cam, steering stabilizer, etc). I do ride pavement a lot so I want to keep the on-road manners in place ; I am also looking for a little more in the 'looks' department. I am seeking advice from users of BDS lifts (I know they are pretty good) and the KM2's on this setup. Any/all replies encouraged! Thanks in advance!
I run a BDS 2" suspension lift and I am quite happy with the suspension's performance both on and off the road. The ride is close if not a tad better than stock. I have also added a 1.25" body lift to clear the 33x10.5 BFG MTs I run.

For such a short lift, I did not see the necessity to change out my OEM front and rear track bars. By just looking at the axles, I didn't see an apparent shift, so I did not think the track bars were necessary. I did not elect to install bump stops either, we will see if this neglect impacts the soundness of my shocks; however I've not seen any degrading of shock performance within the past 4 years of running this setup. Typically, one would run 2" bump stops in the front and 1.5" in the rear, to mitigate shock over compression and/or articulation fender rub. I highly recommend the bump stops and ignore my current practice.

Despite the short lift, I was one of the rare few that did get vibrations from the 2" (vibes occurred between 35-40mph). Initially, I was able to dial out the vibrations with a few washers on each transfer case skid bolt, dropping the skid enough to bring my driveline angles within tolerance. Before I installed my 33" tires, I installed a 1.25" body lift and a 1" budget motor mount lift for additional clearance. One of the benefits of the motor mount lift (MML), was that I was able to remove the washers on my transfer case skid and bring the skid back up to stock height, while the MML kept my angles within vibe free tolerances.

BDS flexes quite well, as you can see...
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:31 PM   #14
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I have the BDS 3" lift on my TJ. It rides great. Probably as good or better than stock. I have no complaints other than the huge t-case drop. But, a 1.25" BL/MML should fix that right up... Good luck with your purchase.
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Old 08-08-2011, 05:39 PM   #15
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Maybe a fender lift would work better for what you're trying to do? Tube fenders front and rear and bump stop extensions can clear 33's for the cheaper fenders, and clear 35's for the more expensive versions... You could go uber cheap and do a home brew highline fender kit for super cheap and run 33" tire easily.

I'm not knocking your original idea, just throwing out a few more options for around the same price range.
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Or the back done. Hope o install the front this week. Here are a couple if pics. Oh. I also added the OME rear trackbar relocation bracket.
Finished the front install Thursday night!
installed the front springs, shocks, and stabilizer. Here are a couple of pics. I'll get some better ones soon. These are at night with the cell phone camera.
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Here is mine with the 2" BDS spring lift with 265/70/17's. It rides great, a tad bouncier than my daughters stock Wrangler. I bought it this way but I would do it again if I wanted something less than 3".

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Appman, another awesome post! So how does it ride? Any vibrations yet? There must be some noticeable difference....Why no shock boots? Looks pretty good in the pics, what do you think of the way it sits now? Also, did your kit come with any stickers? I ordered my 2" kit this week (with the steering stabilizer), now I just hafta see about getting it on there. I would really like to do it myself but I may have it done by a local shop. Thanks again for the great pictures!
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Appman, another awesome post! So how does it ride? Any vibrations yet? There must be some noticeable difference....Why no shock boots? Looks pretty good in the pics, what do you think of the way it sits now? Also, did your kit come with any stickers? I ordered my 2" kit this week (with the steering stabilizer), now I just hafta see about getting it on there. I would really like to do it myself but I may have it done by a local shop. Thanks again for the great pictures!
Thanks man!
1.) The ride is great. I still need to get an alignment so once I get that done I'll have more info on the ride.
2.)Luckily, no vibes that I can tell. I'm really happy about this because the reason I bought the 2" kit was that I didn't want to deal with any other issues.
3.) I bought the shock boots but decided not to put them on. Just a personal preference I guess.
4.)as for the look. I happy with it. It Sits a little higher than stock. It has a slightly more aggressive look. However, the look I'm going for won't be complete until I buy new wheels and tires. I'll do that once I wear these tires down.
5.) as for doing it yourself. I did mine because I wanted to learn something new. I'm no mechanic. The most I've ever done was basic oil changes and tire rotations. It took longer to get the lift instAlled this way but I feel like I learned alot about the mechanics of the jeep. Knowing how things work is always great information to have. Plus i had a good time with some friends while doing it. This jeep isn't my daily driver so I had the luxury of be able to install it over a couple of weeks in my spare time.

I'd suggest, if you can do it yourself, great! If not, let the shop do it and enjoy!
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Old post but where did some of you guys order this from? Can't find a local vendor and haven't founder a vendor on here that has it listed.
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I ordered directly from BDS and they shipped the components to my nearest BDS vendor. Shipping was free and they occasionally offer a 10% to members.
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check their website for a vendor near by,
I normally order direct from their website and have it shipped to my house.
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Old 05-07-2013, 05:56 AM   #24
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Yeah its only 30 shipping delivered. The closest vendor is over an hour away from me. So there's a possible discount for bring a forum vendor :-) was in debate between this kit and the 3 inch zone one since it has the transfer drop with it.
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BDS 2" spring and shock lift was the second mod I made to my stock 2006 TJ Rubicon (after winch and bumper) Running 32" tires and could go 33" with bumpstop adjustment. Could not be happier, got a solid 2" lift by measurement, excellent on and offroad manners. Believe I paid ~$360 last year.
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With a Rubicon you probably didn't need transfer drop but did you do anything else? Track bar bracket etc.
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3''BDS here, no complains, just have the springs, as for shocks I have bilsteins. Very happy with the ride. Also If i was you, I'll go with 33's because of the gears you already have.

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