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Old 02-10-2013, 09:13 PM   #1
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Bead Balancing tires

Just got some new shoes today, 35" km2s up from 33" Duratracs. Decided to give the bead balancing idea a try.... and I'm glad I did. Highway ride is smoooooth, noticeably less highway vibrations than before! Definitely recommend. This is what I bought, after reading reviews on some other forums.

Amazon.com: 10,000 Rounds BB 0.12g Polished Perfect Grade: Sports & Outdoors

Measure out 8 oz for each tire. This package is about 2.2 lb, so you'll have about a handful left over. Remove your lead wheel weights (if you haven't already done so wheeling), break the bead on your tire and dump em in.

That's it.
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Awesome to hear. I have stick-on weights because of offroading but have thought about trying this. How'd you come up with the 8 oz. weight? Trial and error or is there a formula out there?

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I'm curious as to how long the airsoft bb's last before they turn to dust inside the tires. I've seen several people doing this so I assume it works I'd just like to know what the life expectancy is.
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Awesome to hear. I have stick-on weights because of offroading but have thought about trying this. How'd you come up with the 8 oz. weight? Trial and error or is there a formula out there?
I had the stick on weights on the inner side of my wheel also. An ounce on a couple, like 4 or 5 ounces on the others.... Ridiculous. Dug 'em off with a screwdriver. I saw the recommendation on a forum somewhere. 8 oz per tire on 35s, add an ounce for every 1" above 35". 37s would take 10oz, etc. There is a product made specifically for this purpose called DynaBeads, which are made of ceramic instead of hard plastic, but Airsoft beads serve the same purpose and are much cheaper
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I'm curious as to how long the airsoft bb's last before they turn to dust inside the tires. I've seen several people doing this so I assume it works I'd just like to know what the life expectancy is.
Valid point. Them little bastards are pretty tough; I dont see them being smashed into each other very hard inside the tire, just like bouncing them around in a bag or something. I would think they'd last quite a while.
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Yeah, dynabeads are stupid pricey. I'm sure the beads would last pretty much as long as the tire would. Once you're at speed they shouldn't be all rubbing and stuff. I have 33s now and may try it out on one tire. I'm guessing around 6.5-7 oz but should start with 6.

I've hear of people using radiator fluid too and injecting it though the valve stem.
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I had dynabeads in my 33" mud grapplers on my old Nissan frontier. They worked awesome



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I tried the smaller Db's. with the humidity or tire lube, the beads would stick where they shouldn't of.

Glad it worked out for you. I'm at wits end trying to get these 35" KM2's balanced.

I might try the BB's myself.
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One question.

Did you remove the weights to start or try both ?
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Any issues with BB's getting stuck in the valve stem airing down? I plan on putting Dynabeads when I get beadlocks and have heard this is an issue.
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Any issues with BB's getting stuck in the valve stem airing down? I plan on putting Dynabeads when I get beadlocks and have heard this is an issue.
You have to install the filtered valve stems.
If I were to do it again. I would use the bigger "off road" beads.
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One question.

Did you remove the weights to start or try both ?
I removed the lead weights first.
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Any issues with BB's getting stuck in the valve stem airing down? I plan on putting Dynabeads when I get beadlocks and have heard this is an issue.
The airsoft bbs are larger than the valve stem so they can't get stuck. The dynabeads are tiny, so they might be a different story.
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Just got some new shoes today, 35" km2s up from 33" Duratracs. Decided to give the bead balancing idea a try.... and I'm glad I did. Highway ride is smoooooth, noticeably less highway vibrations than before! Definitely recommend. This is what I bought, after reading reviews on some other forums.

Amazon.com: 10,000 Rounds BB 0.12g Polished Perfect Grade: Sports & Outdoors

Measure out 8 oz for each tire. This package is about 2.2 lb, so you'll have about a handful left over. Remove your lead wheel weights (if you haven't already done so wheeling), break the bead on your tire and dump em in.

That's it.
How does putting beads inside your tire give a better ride? Forgive me but never heard of this process.
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Interesting but not for me. Thanks for the info tho!
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I am debating about buying the Centramatic rings so I can reuse them for any tire replacement/upgrade. I can't imagine the frustration/labor on removing the beads if it doesn't work but that $200 price tag for the Centramatic rings is making it a difficult slurge, even though it would pay for itself in the long run. Anyone here run the Centramatic rings like these:
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Its also suggested that the dynabeads paired with nitrogen filled tires works best, i may do this also with my 35 KM2's
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I'm thinking of doing this. I'm having tire balancing issues. Anyone have reasons why not to use air soft bb's?
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I'm still waiting to find out if they'll last as long as a set of tires, thats the only thing thats stopping me from using the airsoft bb's
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I'm still waiting to find out if they'll last as long as a set of tires, thats the only thing thats stopping me from using the airsoft bb's
This is all new to me as well and after reading over many other forums, people seem to have the best results with the airsoft bb's and they all say it last a long time unless they have used some kind of stuff in tires like goo or whatever, (i just skipped those responses as I don't know what they were thinking). And they seem to have better results than the more expensive and smaller ceramic beads. And it sounds if you work to keep moisture out like using nitrogen then the airsoft should remain free and clear and never rust or freeze.
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I round thus which had a lot of good info. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/gener...lculators.html
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I didn't care for them . If I hit a bump in the road ( 40-45 mph ) it made the tires feel like thet were filled with Jello for a second until they settled down again . When driving at 40-45 you could feel something was not right as they tried to constantly rebalance as you hit expansion joints on a concrete road . It was only slight and the same when turning it just had a odd feeling that is not there now since I paid for a regular spin balancing. Some of us can deal with things better than others , I just felt it was annoying so I cured that.
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You have to install the filtered valve stems.
If I were to do it again. I would use the bigger "off road" beads.
Good to know.
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youd be better off getting tape weights in my opinion
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Question I have is do the BB's have to be .12's? Reason I ask is because I have a TON of .20 and .25's (I do a lot of competitive Airsoft as well as Paintball). Would that 8oz number change since I would be using a slightly heavier BB?

Or should I just not screw with the proven formula and buy the .12's?

Also, for people asking how long the BB's will last, trust me they will. Just don't get the biodegradable BB's and you'll be fine.
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Question I have is do the BB's have to be .12's? Reason I ask is because I have a TON of .20 and .25's (I do a lot of competitive Airsoft as well as Paintball). Would that 8oz number change since I would be using a slightly heavier BB?

Or should I just not screw with the proven formula and buy the .12's?

Also, for people asking how long the BB's will last, trust me they will. Just don't get the biodegradable BB's and you'll be fine.
Shouldn't matter, you should still get the same results using 8oz of the heavier beads. I was actually going to buy the heavier ones in the first place, but the light ones were cheaper lol
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I am debating about buying the Centramatic rings so I can reuse them for any tire replacement/upgrade. I can't imagine the frustration/labor on removing the beads if it doesn't work but that $200 price tag for the Centramatic rings is making it a difficult slurge, even though it would pay for itself in the long run. Anyone here run the Centramatic rings like these:
I'm using the centramatic balancers. They really smoothed out the ride on the highway on my 33" bfg km2s.
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Quick question for op... whered you get that tube that goes over the winch in the stock bumper?

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